Do you think that Ambergris Caye could handle a 300 room resort with a flagship hotel (i.e. Holiday Inn, Radisson) with a Casino? and we know it would need to be kept to a 28 ft max height.
Conceptually it would include a 'Jungle Tour' on an elevated monorail (Disneyland type, hanging open gondola/tram type) as a main attraction to our 'eco resort' setting, also, a 'tropical style golf course', and the refurbishing of the existing 'old landing strip' including an 'airport terminal' and of course some kind of nearby accessibility for the cruise ships (i.e., some natural break in the reef for water-taxis passage).

I know this is a lot, but my questions are very real. Originally planned for a project in the Baja Peninsula in Mexico, there is a real hedge fund group (investor group) considering to move their next resort project to Ambergris Caye instead and the wonderful people of Ambergris Caye is the first one they'd like to hear from. Have a ball now kicking this idea around, we'll be carefully watching all responses... if any, funny or not, we really hope to found out as much as we can here, thank you much in advance. Fell free to contact me directly at mycybertaxi@aol.com

Gypsyoo6

Please, God, NO!!!

what did it not fly in Baja????

I am not a resident of Ambergris Caye, but the main reason that I love to visit there is that it does not have the type of resort (large hotel, golf course, cruise ship landing, casino, monorail, airport terminal) you want to build. If one comes, I'm afraid that more will follow. Sorry, Gypsyoo6, this is one vote against your project.

I'm afraid less who are regular visitors will continue to come. I think it will loose it's appeal to most people who choose to come here for the reasons they do. Where would you put this 'tropical style golf course', and what is the need for it. Caye Chappel is just 20 min from here and an entire island dedicated to golf!

People looking for what is described above already go to islands and countries that have been popular for years and already offer this. People who come to Belize come for mostly for all the other reasons.

Another vote against this project.

Gypsy, quite the troll post you've got going here.

On the off chance, you are slightly for real (or surreal, as the case may be), I think you'd be much better off taking a trip down to Ambergris for a week or two.

Then try and picture your 300 room complex with the monorail . . . ahahhahahahhaaa

ROFLMAO

Down with Disneyworld!

Sounds absolutely horrible to me. I would agree to keep the Disney concept out of Belize.

And the cruise ships could dock at the new San Pedro Port.

LMAO

Absolutely, positively NOT!!!! Obviously you have never been there or you would not want to destroy the charm.

Surely this is a joke to get everyone wound up!

it has to be a joke, some of the things he mentioned I am wondering where they would even go and where this 'monorail' would lead to.

This is an obvious BS posting. Why waste your time and Marty's bandwidth answering it?

yup SS & WJ, troll attack..

Why would any respectable financing group (and a hedge fund is not typically in the developing business, by the way) utilize an AOL email adresss for god's sake??? Gives ME all the confidence in the world.

and the grammar cracks me up too.

SS - wanna buy in??

boot him Jesse

Oh, absolutely Klc. I'll buy in. It's got big winner written all over it!!

Agreed! No way! Not the place or time for this kind of thing!

Please sign me up to handle the lawsuits of all passengers stranded on the monorail each time Mexico cuts off the electricity

This project will certainly have its own nuclear power plant

Wow, impressive as to how fast some of you responded, this is excellent, thank you all. And of course, you can imagine that I was expecting this kind of negative responses and it is for this very reason, that I offered an anonymous AOL email address which was already used by 5 of you to send me different opinions than most so far on this board, and evidently they felt more comfortable emailing me directly. Thank you for the emails too.

Now I will try to address every comment as frankly, sincerely as I can, and let the 'haters' be as they be.

> klcman: "true" The grammar is kind of bad, je suis francais (I'm french-canadian, wow you must really hate me now), and many of my sentences I formulate in french and may come across backwards, I apologize for that. As far as 'hedge fund... blabla...', evidently you don't know everything about investing/funding/banking instruments etc. and hedge fund do 'as they please', but banking is not the point of this discussion, so for your sake just go with the belief that this is completely fictitious and let this be just for the sake of conversation if it makes it easier for you, and the project in Baja was abandoned for a few reasons but the main one being that a new anti-casino grass roots initiative is already preparing itself for solid opposition to casinos for the 2006 Mexican election. The investor group decided to look at Belize and/or the Ambergris Caye for the project

>Windjammer: - No, we don't want to destroy the charm of Ambergris, far from it, we want to make the forest and its treasures accessible, but we want to keep it 100% virgin and untouched, hence the 'suspended monorail'. We were thinking about an area that we have surveyed close to the 'Mexico Rocks' and the inland lagoon (I think maybe 11 miles or so from SP). The "Disney" monorail analogy was only used to help visualizing a completely clean and harmless way of transportation, imagine a forest trail without having one visitor ever touching the virgin ground. Imagine a silent floating gondola entering the thick jungle at tree height, imagine the treat for bird watchers, a gondola that would make you feel like you are in a hot air balloon basket floating sideways through the trees into the flora and around the lagoon.... see... there is no popcorn in this picture... This would be an instant tourist hit, an incredible and unique eco tour, taking a 'tram' into the Mayan Jungle. I apologize for the use of such a terrible word as "Disney", THERE IS NO DISNEY CONCEPT HERE 'NOOOOOOOOOOOO", PLEASE DELETE THIS PICTURE FROM THE SCREEN, really did not mean to scare anyone.

>seashell: Trust me I been there a couple of ways. We even took a trip just to take aerial footage of the complete area, and apparently, there is a break in the reef close to 'Mexican Rocks' which could make the area we're thinking of accessible for the cruise ships, so that they could anchor outside the reef and ferry in their passengers. Why can't you visualize a 300 room complex? Is it because you visualize the 'physical' size to be too big? It's only 3 long 2-storey buildings (26 ft height), similar to any Best Western you see along the US highways. With superb eco-friendly design, the buildings would be nestled beautifully into the landscape and almost disappear into the jungle.
As far as golf course, in addition to add a major attraction to Ambergris, a second course in the area would only make it that much more interesting for any local or visiting golfers... You probably don't golf, the variety of a few courses would not hurt the business trust me. The course would be a 'tropical link course' build as much as possible along and parallel to the beach line, and would require a limited amount of land clearing.

> Jesse: Marty is not mad at me using his bandwidth... trust me...

>lawcucui: The monorail would have generator back up and would instantly become an incredible attraction for all tourist venues.

A few closing points. I'm shock that no one said anything about what it would do for not only Ambegris economy, but for the entire country's economy, the job creation, the improvement to the infrastructure, the creation of another airport at the old landing strip, not one of you is thinking about the unemployment.... Perhaps many of you are completely turned off by the idea, but : When the casino law came into effect, the hope was that it would bring in tourists and money, well add a golf course and a Mayan Jungle one of a kind tour suddenly you'll have a attraction that will rival the Blue Hole in popularity...

Ambergriss is the tip of the Mexican Riviera. No one can change that. Imagine the future, imagine opening the road all the way to Cancun, can you imagine what such a road would mean to all your businesses. With the kind of income a world class casino brings in, a lot is possible with time. I'm sure many don't want this, many cannot even consider such a concept, and probably want to protect their retirement investment and do not want to create ripples and/or don't think it can be done. But this is bigger than that, think about the evolution of a country and its people... Belize & Ambergris could use the work... Look at Ambergris in 1990, look at Ambergris now... that was only a 15 years span... you can't stop the future... OK, let's see if all I get is another beating, or if we actually start talking openly about Pros & Cons... Thank you to all in advance.

Your got to be kidding me!!! There are no Pros. Obviously, you may have visited AC before, but you've never really BEEN to AC. Your proposal is so ridiculas that at first I LOL! If I want that I would go to Disneyworld! I second yank the thread!!

As I said haters, will be haters... and the pros emails keep coming in, but not at the rate you guys post, it's about 3 to 1, if anyone cares.

ty

To be realistic for a moment, you would have great difficulty attracting enough guests to your new resort to make it viable. Existing resorts are lightly used much of the year. I think you'd find the payback period to be very long indeed. And as to the monorail, from where to where? Perhaps you'd rather build a bridge or at least a causeway from AC to the mainland?

I'd also like to see the generator sufficient to power a substantial monorail - I think it's more commonly termed a "power station".

If your investors have the odd 1/4 billion dollars to spare I suspect there are some more attractive investment opportunities out there.

Come on, you don't get that part yet, the monorail is a 'ride' not a mode of transportation, it would be perhaps 1 mile long or something like that total, half a mile into the forest and back, and yes it would operate off the Mexican power grid and yes, if the grid shut down, emergency generators, or to address pedro2 erudition and keep him happy, and/or also known as 'power stations', would be plenty enough to bring back the gondolas to home base. If you build it, they will come, is not the general consensus here, but adding a golf course, a casino and a jungle tour as described, certainly would add to the menu of activities for the tourists that already know about the magic of AC, and it would tap into a completely untouched demographic, i.e., golfers and gamblers, and not to mention the eco tourist with our jungle tram concept. Bring on the comments, it's OK, we can take it, we get it all the time, it all start with a vision...

Where will you get the jungle? Grow it? The area is presently covered with low bush...but of course you know all that don't you?

I think our GUY is back, pulling our chain as they say.

Ok, since I am already considered in the "haters" group, I may as well continue to give you my opinion! What part of take it somewhere else do you not understand? You WOULD destroy the charm & ambiance that is Ambergris Caye. If the people that live there and those that visit wanted cruise ships and big casinos they would go to the places that have them. People are upset enough at how many cruise ships are in Belize City allowing people to destroy nature. Big Casino=more crime. More ships= more destruction to the reef. Have you not read there is already more than enough? A road from Cancun? If we wanted to go to Cancun we would. WE DO NOT!!! THAT IS THE DIFFERENCE!!!

Money hungry mongers need to look elsewhere for your investment. You will loose your shirt! However that would be sweet justice!

His vision probably will come to pass, even the freeway to Cancun, but it'll be at least 50 years in the future.
You're wasting time and energy opposing him as he has many, many hoops to jump through and "advisors" to pay.

It's still just too funny. And this troll has got everyone up in arms, and swears he's getting positive emails about it.

An "eco" monorail? An "eco" 300 unit hotel? An "eco" cruise docking? LOL. A mile of jungle at Mexico Rocks?

And I do golf but I'm well aware that golf courses are not "eco" friendly. My golfing aside, I would never support a golf course in Belize, not even the existing course.

I'll play along even though I think you're full of it:

If you do pull it off it will be the first of many grandiose ventures to succeed.

"I offered an anonymous AOL email address which was already used by 5 of you to send me different opinions than most so far on this board, and evidently they felt more comfortable emailing me directly"

I'd love to see all of your "positive" e-mails posted.

"I'm shock that no one said anything about what it would do for not only Ambergris economy, but for the entire country's economy, the job creation, the improvement to the infrastructure, the creation of another airport at the old landing strip, not one of you is thinking about the unemployment"

It would do little for AC except put added pressure on an already stressed infrastructure. Most of your employees would not be Belizeans (pretty much the case right now for much construction) in the construction phase. They would have to be housed on site and therefore would spend little money in town. Once construction was complete they would be unemployed and probably competing with Belizeans for jobs. You would buy few if any supplies in town as it would be cheaper to have everything barged in from Belize City. The barges themselves would inflict incredible damage to the environment (just as they have 3 miles north) during the construction and operation phases. Hope you factored in that you'll have to create a new town to house your employees (pre and post construction) as you'll find few willing to commute that far by water everyday and weather plays a huge factor in how many will show up for work. Don't think a road will help you it isn't wide enough for 2 way traffic with trucks and I'd bet if you tried you'd be hung and quartered by home and resort owners alike.

It's all a moot point any way, you don't seem to have a grasp on what it would take to complete your project in Belize. In the US you'd be done in 2 or 3 years, here it'll be more like 10 or 15. I can't think of anyone who would take on such an investment risk and if they would please put me in touch with them I've got lots of schemes floating around.

Was it that hard, I did get all the answers I needed, and yes in one day I made some contacts. I sincerely thank you all.

Gypsy.. have you ever been to AC personally? or even to the country? The answer is however obvious when I read above in one of your statements that "it would be perhaps 1 mile long or something like that total, half a mile into the forest and back"

If you have ever been to the island you should know that there is NO forest on the caye.

Personally, I don't think this project is going to go anywhere. The town officials don't want it and neither do the residents and the vacationers who support the island wouldn't want the caye ruined ala Cancun.

So in short Gypsy... peddle this absurdity somewhere else. or have the company buy a caye and install it there.

I don't know whether Gypsy is a troll, but I do know he's a fool and not worth wasting time over.

Trust me ,I was born at night but not last night .this is a duck ,walks ,like a duck quacks like a duck, well you know the rest ...trying to get a thing started ... I love to chat on the board with my friends ,and help new people with good ideas ,and questions, as we all love sanpedro . we may all not agree ,And at times we do not all agree ... but hello ,hello this is not the real deal...like said before ..this is ,well you know who.....he is ???? you boarders know the drill..,yes he is back..........................

Will you guys support mini golf and a kiddie train through the bush at my 3 room one star resort? I promise the windmill won't be taller than 10 ft. Also planning a McDonalds and Taco Bell/Pizza Hut on the north side for residents and vacationers. WITH golf cart drive thru windows!

we already have mini-golf, pizza, tacos and a windmill...and lots of one-star resorts.

A 'fool', a 'troll'... the legendary niceness of Ambergris people is flagrant here. Why are you people so angry... for the sake of conversation and finding some answers, I thought of coming to you first, you don't have to crucify me for getting info and asking questions. And I'm getting that the trees are not trees but bushes, (couldn't really tell from the aerial footage we looked at from the lagoon area.) Believe in me.. or not... that we invest in Ambergris, at Stone Crab Point or Stan Creek, it is still to be determine, but one thing I can tell already: judging the speed that 30 plus responses came in on my posting, all within less than a day, it is quite obvious that Ambergris could use some new activities... You people are living in a post card... and have that much time to waste on computer ???... And considering the trivialities and most of the subject posted on your board, looks to me like you could really use something new to do... but what do I know.... I'm just a 'fool' and an outsider, right... like most of you were at one point...

And Capt Jeff, you don't know me anymore than I know you...

Gypsy if I am wrong about who you are ,sorry .and good luck to ya....but,still have a real good feeling about the duck and the real deal ..... And your right you you do not know me anymore then I know you .but I do know enough to invest right, work hard ,build many good relationships ,save gazillions$$$ of dollars and smart enough enough to know whats hot or not .which is why I can sit on my butt and do nothing and talk about my condo in ambergris caye , the people I love there !and have lots of time and money to travel first class around the world , and help people live the dream..........

Denny shane my brother your sooooo right on ...bless your heart...

Capt' you write: "...which is why I can sit on my butt and do nothing and talk about my condo in ambergris caye..." > I completely understand that grove and yearn to be there, again, soon enough. I am presently a very successful filmmaker but as a young man I was a fireman in 'cold' Canada for many years, and I took a 2 week vacation in St Croix USVI, ended up staying there for 3 years. The island bug got me right then and there, that's a long time ago. I am now position to start something in the islands, with a group of investors that has been funding our company's film projects for many years. Retiring in the islands is something I always knew I would eventually do, I'm not quite ready for that yet, but I'm looking for a head start, and I know that I plan on shooting at least a few features in Belize/area before I do retire. I don't know why I'm giving all this info to people that just plan on dogging me, but go ahead and believe I'm a bad guy, when I'm actually the best neighbor that you could ever wish for, and I have 780 tenants that could vouch for that, and I'm their landlord, imagine that, yes not just movies, we also do property development and management...

CORRECTION:I completely understand that 'GROOVE'..

Did you know they took the word 'gullible' out of the dictionary? I was actually trying to figure out where the 'jungle' was on the island, 'cause I just had not seen that. Thanks for helping me out Jesse. :-)

Can the monorail go to the blue hole? I hate that boat ride and jumping in wrecks my skydive gear!!

No, no reaper. I want Gypsy006 to bring the Blue Hole to his/her resort so that I can see it without having to leave the property. No, wait...bring it to the resort, have a web cam trained on it so that I can see it on TV. Then I can 'have the Blue Hole experience' without having to leave my room.

You guys are talking about all this fancy stuff and you haven't even mentioned a Kentucky Fried Chicken store. Bummer!

Jesse, some things are just understood! Of course there will be KFC, Walmart, Piggly Wiggly, Starbucks and maybe even a Blockbuster. After all, ya gotta have it all if you want the cruise sheep business.

Don't forget Taco Bell and Applebys.

I do miss those.

and Dennys...

OH, OH, you left out Wal Mart!!

Well hell, if we're getting all these can I have a Krispy Creme??

It's time to move to Nicaragua.

Oh, and I want Piasano's thoughts........

Paisanos thoughts are not publish-able on this message board.

I want the contract to build the Desalinization plant at Club Dread. It's gonna take lots of water for the tropical golf course and to fill 300 toilets. AND I want to drive the monorail!

no one has consulted with me yet Jesse on opening a branch on AC...

Gypsy... I really am interested in these plans, but can you answer a few questions for me? Please?

You mention a monorail into the forest... have you ever been in the forest on AC or any of the planners? This is an important question.

Also adding a golf course, a casino and a jungle tour as described... a full 18 hole course? landscaped? how large of a casino and where would the jungle tour take people into the jungle on AC or the mainland?

Thanks for answering these

Monorails are okay, but I really dig roller coasters

Also WalMart got two mentions, is there the possibility of a Target - you know, for the sake of competition . . .

"A really subtle troll makes some people lose their minds."
Not that this was - Guess we're a little late for DNFTT

I own the rights to the Wal*Mart store in Belize and I have no reason to start construction based on the above conversation.

E !

wondered whn you were gonna chime in

nodamnedwaterorice

I would like some advice from locals: A friend of mine who is a Bulgarian investor is planning to put a pig farm with a capacity of 250,000 + animals on the south end of Ambergris Caye. He is a very honest person, who believes that the business will bring money (and bacon export) to our country. Also, he is convinced that this will bring jobs to a lot of Belizeans. All he requires is that the town council will come up with a plan for the treatment of the sewage. He also plans to host the 31st. annual pig farmers convention on the island in 2008, and will need someone to blow a hole in the reef, so the container ships from Europe can bring in the frozen animals that will compete for the "pig of the year" prize.
As a professional "pig farms in the tropics" consultant, I truly appreciate any feedback from you guys.
Please forgive any bad grammar and spelling. I am a Greenland-Norway Chinese, who grew up with an Alaskan mother and a couple of siamese twin grand dads, so I ususally translate all my letters and postings from the original Afghan manuscript.

more jobs for you gringos so why get mad.

Porkin Aye Ebbe!!!!!! Makin Bacon on Ambergris Caye. What a concept-ion. I personally will cum down to oversee the breeding process between North American lard products with the true Belizean Pecker-ies. Then again it kinda sounds like a boat party on the dock after a night of music and debauchery at Fido's.

You'd be interested in the Pig Soccer League that has been planned for the island. This would be a great promotional activity for your pig farm..and the losers in the soccer league could be recycled through your Bulgarian export system. Sewage shouldn't be a problem...just wash everything into the sea.

More pork Barrel spending in SP!

Suuuu eeeey t deal!

Well, here we go again, something as important as the 300 room resort, which if designed properly, including reguards to the echo sys, could mean a lot to all who live in the north.
Forget Wall Mart, donut shops, Taco Bell, and such, does anyone see any of those places in SP, no.
I myself would like to see controlled dev. including resorts, small markets, for the norths convience, some local bars, also eating establishments, like those which dot SP, some art studios, and yes a either established road for all concerned, a dirt or whatever, but maintained by the property oweners, and this would benefit all in times for emergency vehicles, fire, paramedics, utility and phone service. We have a obligation to do this right, before it comes with the Wall Marts, and ect.
I for one, am for the 300 room resort, and hope it will come sooner than later.This Is what the north needs, is a group to come in like this , and start a controlled and properly thought out dev., before Disneyland comes in and destroyes the north.
Thats my first word, and not last.
Yes, I am a property owner, with almost 5 acres, 6 lots, along with 3 other freinds,who own property, all together have almost 10 acres.

Hey Steve, ever wonder where the power and water will come from for a 300 room resort?

Where, Water, desal plant, maybe.
What did the Arabs do in the desart. Think out of the bubble, and into the future.

What's a desal plant? And a desart?

Go ahead and correct my spelling

I believe that the Arabs dug wells in the 'desart'. Get out your divination rod Steve. I'm sure you'll find a fresh water well up north.

Sounds good, might give potential reef village suckers, sorry, I mean investors an option.
Can't wait to see this web site.

I sincerely hope this is not for really for any serious consideration. It would truly destroy the charm & spirit of Belize. Visitors come to Ambergris to get away from the hustle & bustle and to experience true island life. C'mon how could a monorail in a "jungle" possibily be eco-friendly?? Unless it's magically suspended in air you'd have to cut down a certain amount of vegatation!

The people who prefer to visit and/or live on the northern part of the island prefer it because they want the quiet life MORE than the conveniences of town life. Let a choice remain!

Troll's getting fat!

C. Steve
We northerners even nixed the offer of FREE streetlights. Seems that people who like to just drive around up here wanted to feel SAFE. Those of us who live up here like to see the night sky. I hate to even think about how a 300-room hotel, with all its accouterments, would affect your neighbors. What’s that old saying “How to make friends and influence people?”
I did not want to be the first to refer to Reef Village but Steve; you might want to research the boards to see the response to that project.
BTW – I use spell check – you might try it.

Just to give an idea of how big 300 rooms would be – you would have to combine*:

Journey's End Resort (70 rooms), Banana Beach Resort (66 rooms), Ramon's Village (61 rooms), Belizean Shores (48 rooms), Captain Morgan's Retreat (45 rooms), Lily’s (10 rooms)

Well you can dream but it's unrealistic to think that you could build a 300-room resort with no infrastructure in place to support it. No roads, no water, no phones, no housing, no way of transporting large volumes of supplies and on and on.

You might get away with building it in the south end but the way things are even that would be a stretch. We don't even have enough water pressure to support Boca del Rio never mind a 300 room resort. Maybe in 10 or 15 years the infrastructure might be there but reality dictates otherwise at this time.

I'm assuming that the goal is to make money not to throw it away. Even with all the concessions that such a development would request (no taxes, no duties, no restrictions on labour pool, low interest or no interest loans from the government, immunity from loan defaults, immunity from EA's), you would still have a rough time pulling it off.

Let's face it, anyone who wanted to put together such a project would take one look at realities here and would walk away or build something more realistic. As far as benefits to the country or AC, the downsides would far outweigh the upsides.

One final thing on the road, it’s taken years to get about a miles worth of paved road in the south end, where the majority of the population lives and where the greatest number of rooms exist (last count - 900 south, 350 north). What makes you think that there will be a road built for the north end anytime soon when most people are quite happy to have none?

I’m all for continuing development of the island but in a realistic way that benefits not strains the community.

*some numbers may be low due to ongoing construction.

Whatever happened with the army barracks-type houses just north of Victoria House that were supposedly part of some casino operation?

Construction looks to be pretty much finished, landscaping has started (just south, not north.) Not sure of the casino rumour.

Princess Casino has taken over the old San Pedro Hardware building and it looks like they may be ready for high season.

I dunno, you guys. Corona Steve might just have a point.

I'd kinda like to see an "echo" system.

hello . . . hello . . . hellooooo . . .

While we're at it, let's build a "Six Flags" type amusement park. How about a couple of roller coasters that span the cut? I think the park is a must have, since there's obviously no other reason to visit AC....

Gypsy, you gotta expand your vision!

Astroworld in Houston will have rides for sale as they are closing & selling the property!

All of this excitement has given me some entrepenural ideas... I am going to construct the island's very first Drive-In Theater!! Hard to imagine huh? With the new bridge being built across the cut a Drive-In is a natural.

I will entertain serious investors only...

great idea Denny - and maybe you could consider a drive-in restaurant also, complete with carthops! Then BZ couuld have it's first Denny's!

Car Hops??? Isn't it hard to roller skate on sand? :p

ScubaLdy... don't sweat the small incidentals... ya gotta look at the big picture

Signs for the road north:

klc, great idea... ok, the drive-in restaurant is now in my plans as well

NOT TO WORRY ! The Wal*Mart I am going to put up will sell sand skates, only $8.97 bze. " LOW PRICES, ALWAYS ".

ya get what ya pay for

OKEEDOKEE FOLKS,
makes no difference to me, a pig farm (that barefoot has a way with words), a wally world, a taco bell, or astroworld. . . IF YOU NEED AN ACCOUNTANT, JUST SHOOT ME A PM.

I only hire crooked bookeepers. In a foreign country however I would need an honest keeper, a slight dishonest booker, and then a really crokked bookeeper.

LOL, keep taking that out a bit further Denny. There's a few more combinations left.

this post may be almost as rediculous as that post with the warning about the bad drugs someone bought for the wedding party

Gypsy006 is in LUCK, Gypsy makes films, and has just dropped into "Belize Central Casting".

Mr. Shane,

Your drive-in theater idea is not new. Five years ago I met a Canadian new-comer to the island who wanted to build a drive-in movie theater at the mosquito coast. Since there was no power (and hardly a road) at that time, he was going to run it with a huge generator. When I asked him why people would sit in a cloud of mosquitos listening to a generator in a rented golf cart and pay top-dollars for it, he said "wait and see". Well, I waited and I saw him being deported three days later after having attempted to rob Atlantic Bank with a flashlight wrapped in a towel as a weapon.
Well, at least he tried...
My plans still include the pig farm and now also a motocross trail through the corridor of town hall, then through Boca del Rio with a jump across the river followed by an ecological full speed race chasing red tailed deer at North Ambergris Caye. As we say where I come from: Fast food is hitting something alive with 65 miles an hour...
Keep the ideas coming. I still might be able to find some finances from the old Scandinavian mafia gold that according to legend is buried in my financial advisor's backyard. You can e-mail him directly at nigerianripoffartistandresortplanner@bullshit.com

Gypsy, just bare in mind that you've been chatting to ex-pats that love their drinks at 9am till night falls and care about their little years left to live on AC. I am just tired of listenning to retired folks that care only about the rest of their lives and not for the future of Belze. Good luck in your plans in Belize and ignore the "we love ambergris caye bulls**ters".

Got to have Kaya now, cause the rain is falling...

Circuit Island: have any idea why people are making and poking fun?? The tipoff for me was when she mentioned the monorail going into the jungle on AC. WHAT JUNGLE???

weile, this sounds like you are trying to discourage me from expanding. I think it's because you want to put your pig farm on my drive-in land.

If, big IF, any of the above scenarios are possible, a big stinky (sewage) hotel at one end and a big stinky pig farm at the other, and a mini-train/mono-rail/whatever running through the Mangrove "forest", well A/C will be somewhat less than interesting. This crappola happened in Key West, so I left, happened in PVR, and it will probably happen in A/C. Therefore, note well, I will be in A/C shortly and stir the political pot . The "locals" count most. I've had no thought or desire to make a comment, until now.

Simon told me this hubbub was going on while I was in AC this past week. With a fresh perspective, I can say beyond a doubt this is the funniest thing I have seen is some time. Not only is it a bad idea, it's a waste because it simply isn't possible for at least 20 years.

and now Allen-G is coming to save us!

Even in 20 years there won't be a mile of jungle for the "eco" monorail.

Hey, Jesse, do you think this thread should be moved to Gen Chat?

C'mon seashell! You don't think we'll have supersonic monorails and/or teleportation in 20 years time?

Allen-G is going to build a Tim Hortons? Maybe he'll be interested in a Belize HoCaye League franchise.

I thought he was starting a Spotted Owl Farm...

Maybe Otter, but I don't think a big jungle is going to pop up.

Why not? Disney does it.

Because that wouldn't be "echo" friendly?

or gecko friendly

Circuit Island, I'm with you.
Still working, and making things happen. Some might think this is a joke, or something to make jokes about, I hope we have last laugh.
Let the North build up, and bring prosperity to the North. When it happens, even those who laugh and disreguard. it as a joke, can enjoy what it will do for the Caye.

It is a joke and will never happen,at least not in this century.The only thing that this fantasy idea will do for the Caye is wreck it,find another island to exploit.Unbelievable how some people actually come up with these ideas.

What, no new word concerning 300 resort
Is it dead, or what.
Discussion, that is.

It better not be dead, I have expanded and thought about this extensively for at least 30 minutes, minus bathroom breaks. As I type I am drawing up the plans for my Drive-In Theater.

Dig it a grave and let it rest in peace! Ditto for the road up north.

nothing worthwhile adding, it's all been said. Anything else would be redundant and superfluous

If you want to see what will happen just go to Cabo San Lucas. It was a nice little fishing village in the late 80's early 90's. They have LOTS of 300 capacity hotels and too many cruise ships.
AC is a jewel and it has to be protected.

Maybe SP could have its own international airport? I'm not sure what runway length is needed for a 747, but there's plenty of room up north to build one. Probably couldn't be wide enough for a 380, though. If a decent road could be built up the coast this new airport could also serve southern Yucatan.

Why? Chetumal already has an airport

But, the jungle tour monorail could stop at SP Intl. Airport and bring you to the 300 room resort!

And Tiger needs a place to land his private jet.

I really hope that nothing of this scale ever impedes AC's beautiful environment. There is a lot of empty land on the mainland, already with jungles, that could accomodate this, if it ever comes to fruition. Some of the main attractions to AC is it's quiet, laid back, friendly (and I use this word loosly)sense of community. A resort of this type will likley turn AC into another Orlando, FL, and it's like the armpit of the US, and there isn't an deoderant around to stifle the stink. I know it's a ruse, not really gonna happen (I hope) but this original post had a way of bringing the "friendly" aspect of the island into focus. The comment about the Reef Village Suckers was meant to be hurtful, and it was not nice, nor funny. I understand that most of you think you know what's best for everyone around you. Not everyone can afford to live in a huge house on the ocean, and this is a nice, middle class area(with promise) to invest in. I'm so sorry it isn't what you all would consider as top shelf, but that's the breaks. We "Suckers" are taking a chance, we know, and maybe we'll be sorry later on down the road. It may even turn out to be a very nice place. But, right now, it's looking pretty nice, and the price is certainly right. If it sinks later on, well, it will be a hard lesson learned. Too bad your mommas didn't teach you about "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything." It would make this board a much nicer place to visit.

A runway on the north end?? No one contacted me... this could financially impact my plans for a 300 car Drive-In...

Denny - You could have an airplane drive in.

Hmmm, nah, an airplane drive-in wouldn't work... the speakers would be way to high, plus the windows don't roll down.

lol -- I can't believe this thread is still going!

kinda like an ever-ready battery and that bunny... it just keeps going and going and going.

Gone! :rolleyes:

Denny - for the 300 car drive-in, is it just movies? Otherwise, the girls will have trouble roller skating through the sand with their food trays. (And, don't forget, there won't be much privacy 'making out' in a golf cart)

wow pianoperson... you have put a lot of thought into this project. A lot more than I have... I obviously have to rethink a few items here.

it moved here


http://www.belizeforum.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=5;t=000596

Also, nice to see someone working hard, and see the dream work out.
I think he is real, and good luck to him.
Wish he kept looking at Ac, sorry some of you chased him away.

I certainly hope you guys chased him away.

What a horrbile idea.

At least he has dropped the monorail idea. Now he just wants to use up the manatee breeding grounds, like scuba divers to the reef.

K I S S
KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID!
The simple life of San Pedro, AC and Belize is what attracted us all to the island and country. If we want 300 room hotels and other franchise we would travel to Cancun or just stay at home in the USA. I'm still upset that the two man pulled ferry/barge has been replaced by a bridge.

Not wishing to stir the pot, believe me, but when I see posts such as that of Kris, it makes me often wonder if those are simply regurgitated words of those who had found AC when there was only a handful of hotels, a couple bars......

Sure, we all want things to be familiar. I refuse to say "stay the same", because if that were true, we'd all still be in caves trying to make fire. I'm not jumping on Corona Steve's bandwagon by any stretch of your imagination, just making an observation.

This thread is hilarious and I am bored at work. In addition to the monorail in the non-existent jungle, the car wash, the international airport, etc., I was thinking about building an underwater tube with a rapid transit train that runs from Belize City over to AC - one like they have in the Bay Area.

hell LM, why not go all the way & build it from Houston?? or for those of you on the left coast, a bullet train onland,or..or...or....somebody call Richard Branson and talk to him about a space shuttle complete with floating runways!

I want some of whatever Dude is having.

nodamnediceorwaterthough

E - gimmeyourdoughandwebothwillgetrich

I'm busy, interveiwing "Greeters"

gimmejusonemorenondamniceerwater

What about the 100 room resort, 200 room resort.
Who should make this decision.
As long as it is done right, and not butchered, but to Belize standards, not Mexico, because some day this might happen.
And, why does everyone think I want a Cozumel, or Manhattan.
The bridge was a necessity, and some sort of road North to go with it.
Think education, and emergencies to start

evacuation, not education

Not trying to take sides here, but as far as the bridge is concerned...I think that was needed. Especially for emergency situations and such.

But a 300 room resort is just the exact opposite of what makes AC so loveable & unique in the first place.

And the monorail idea is just absurd.

I've just re-read some of the postings here... it is painfully obvious that some people simply don't have a sense of humor, and don't know the difference between truth and good natured obsurdity.

Just keep laughing....

how do YOU spell absurd??

o b v i o u s?

Bridge or not, I think the guy that pulled us over all those times needs to join the strong man competitions!!