girl has a point about pming and posting all this information for BTL to read and see what all everyone uses. Good luck you all.

Dish: 2 feet
Download: 70 Kb/sec (have clocked higher than that though).
Upload: miserable.

Listen to you all-Big brother is watching and listening-maybe we should go back to carrier pidgeons-remember loose words cost lives-

do I agree with this man? Geesh, shock but I do. I think you're foolish to all be discussing this publically. You are risking your own privledges. Remember, that is what they are and you take that for granted. If one day you technology is taken away you will realize this as it sounds like some have. You know BTL and the cable company can look up where you are writing from and figure out who you are easy and poof, it's over.

Katie, where did you get your info, this sounds like a story based on rumors.

Anything new?

Skype is still down in PG through BTL

- We pay 200-300% higher rates for phone/ISP
- Wireline competition has been supressed by gov't meatheads
- performance is dismal
- we are already behind so many filters/NATs and generally fishy ISP practices
- now our ability to run what we want on THE LINES WE PAY FOR is being denied (albeit in a sloppy way)

WHEN DID THIS BECOME A PRIVLEDGE?

I say we talk about it more. BTL knows what they are doing. We wouldn't be talking unless they had already started blocking. They are getting confused support calls everyday.

We shouldn't hide our contempt...

What we need is a Direcway or Starband rep to join this thread and start explaining their advancements in running VoIP apps over satellite.

I found this. hope it helps someone:

http://boned.us/blog/?p=4

Why complain we pay 300% higher rates for a phoneline or internet??? "WHEN DID THIS BECOME A PRIVLEDGE" ?? It always was, you just realize it when you have issues or it is taken away.

You chose to live here. I will pay the high rates/ work with an phone issues to live here, I gave up a lot of BS stress and live in paradise. Well worth it. I had my biggest stress of the past week this morning...my milk going sour 3 days prior to expiration which happens every time if you buy the milk in the jugs that they have in the states. I really should go back to the liquid milk in the boxes.