Marty,

I am sure you have nothing to do with this but thought you should know: that at 5:08PM (Belize Time) Sunday, Dec 16 my personal firewall trapped 4 attempts of the SubSeven Trojan eminating from http://www.ambergriscaye.com

I can provide you all the details as to which specific URL I was on at the time, if of any value to you. E-mail me if you have any desire to pursue this.

If ya don't mind I sure would like to know... I JUST got back on line!

Hey Chloe... I recieved an e-mail from you about our e-mail change and it has an attachment, should I open it? I read you had problem a bit ago and I don't know what to do. I just hate that tempting stuff. lol

Thanks

Hope, do not open it, I don't think you can in fact. One of Santa's helpers somewhere in cyberspace, was helping me with contacting all of my good friends, by using my address book, without my permission. Sorry.
I have taken care of those helpers now. LOL
Happy Holidays.

This was NOT an e-mail attachment- it was an attempt to gain access to the computer directly for God only knows what purpose.

Perhaps somebody is using Marty's site as a go-between.

Hey Hope...I guess we know where we picked up that virus from!

klcman....I get many of them a day on my firewall too, none from AC. But from everywhere else. It only takes one person's address, not necessarily the whole AC web site.
These people are talking about a virus, not a hacker hit !
That's why we have firewalls, to keep those "unwanted" out.

Thanks Chloe, it's gone!

Pirate... This was not the HA HA HA one. (At least I don't think so) After that fiasco I got another one in SPANISH lol, at least they spell HA the same.
I believe this one was generated in Belize???
Don't really know.
Geeze... I hope I wasn't the one who started it!!! That WAS a few months ago wasn't it Pirate?

NYgal... Would a "hacker hit" bring my
c drive up to my address tabs when I'm on line?

If you are on a cable or dsl it's more likely that can happen. A dial-up happens less often.

But, to answer your question YES it could happen if you do not have a firewall.

Black Ice is a good resource, read read read.
Or another one that is Free....is Zone Alarm. Not sure of the web site addresses but try the reading. Do a search for these firewall sites.

You can get viruses from ANYWHERE...not just through your emails you receive. You can also get them from http sites you visit.

Safest way is don't open attatchments till you are better secured. And scan with your virus scan.

(I just got something today from someone in Belize. I e-mailed them right away to ask if they had sent something to me, they responded that they DID NOT) THus, I deleted it right away. It pays to ask or trust your self to be careful. I always was too quick to open up these e-mails but there seems to be more of a rash of "viruses" and hoaxes too.

Gosh, I hope I said all that right, if not Sorry. Just do some of that reading assignment LOL

* I am far from a pro*...so this is only a lesson. It takes lots more reading to know for sure. I learn something new each day.
Hope this helps some.

hmm. i'll ask me server guys....

Denver-

I agree with NYGal, but more likely your addy tabs popped up because the virus is still active and sending out those obnoxious e-mails to everyone in your addy book...and sometimes they are blank e-mails with just the nasty attachment.

I would suggest that, in addition to your virus software, you pay a visit to symantec's site and check out the commentary on whatever virus you contracted. Frequently they will provide a free download (yes, it's OK to safely download from them) for the various nasties and allow you to clean the system completely. I have noticed lately that, with some of these buggers, quarranting them is not enough....sometimes they slip by and you need to go inside the startup files, etc. and actually remove code. The "how to's" are quite simple, just require some concentration. Sometimes they do not have downloads and you must do the work yourself, carefully following the instructions...not difficult as I said, just requires concentration.

As NYGal said, if you are connected via DSL, cable or wireless, you are more at risk than through a dialup. Thus the need for a firewall as you are connected DIRECTLY to the net.

Good luck!

Thanks NYgal!

Chloe... was it the HA HA HA you received (snow white)?

klcman... I think you misunderstood me. My c drive was on line..uh, o.k, when you are on line and you type in the place you want to visit and it stays in the "Address line" ya know.. ya just have to pull what site you want to visit from!? My C drive was right under ambergris... I am totally "duh" on computers so I would have no way of bringing my c drive up there myself.
Sure hope I'm explaining this right.

Pirate... want to come over and play again? lol

I am currently LMAO off at Over-40-Pirate....Thank You i needed that!!! C What is this "fire wall" ya'll speak of???What does it mean??? And I don't need Bill's Version...LOL...C

What is a sub 7???[This message has been edited by rickcheri (edited 12-17-2001).]

[This message has been edited by rickcheri (edited 12-17-2001).]

If you are running Outlook express, please open your address book and create a New Contact.

Where it says first name type in !000.

Then where you add the email adress type in: !0000

It will state that it is NOT a correct email, click to ACCEPT it Anyway as the default email.

This will become the VERY first email address in your address book.

If you computer becomes infected with a virus/ worm etc, this will prevent it from being AUTOMATICALLY sent to all those listed in your addy book.

What will happen is that you will receive an error message, if you receive such a message, then you must look in your deleted items folder (or sometimes, depending on the virus your Drafts folder), you will see what the virus IS by the attachment to the !0000 Email.

Then, please go to : http://housecall.antivirus.com/housecall/


This is a copy of an email from Skinny
it works
Jim

Hi Rick/Cheri,
will send some pics this Friday
If you dont know what a firewall is you better learn--fast
Jim

Hey Jim,

Thanks for the info... we have outlook for another month only, but I'm sure that will help!
(I think.... do ya know if we can keep outlook when our server "qwest" is moving to msn?) We don't want to go to msn but don't know what else to do.
I sure do like having outlook much better than hotmail!
Anybody?
Probably not huh... especially if qwest is our .net /.com

LOIE.... PIRATE... AXEMAN...

If R&C don't have a firewall and don't have a virus then I DIDN'T DO IT! YEA YEA

Outlook Express is part of your Internet Explorer package...it's a program on your computer.

What ever internet service you have...you can configure Outlook to pull your mail.
I use Outlook to pull my Hotmail.

In Outlook...at the top....under Tools.....go to Accounts....this is where you can add, delete or edit mail accounts.

Geeze...
I e-mailed you Tammy, hope it was the right address. If not ours is for now denvereyeguy@hotmail.

Can I put 000 in hotmail as well? lol

OK someone...what is a sub 7 and a firewall???? Looking forward to the pics Jim....it's what keeps me going in this world!!! C

I am getting port scan hacker hits all the time, too. Fortunately, the McAfee virus scan catches them all. (Yes, Hope...you are protected) I have a cable modem and am connected all the time, so I have to be especially carefull. The Snow White virus is particularly tricky, but not especially harmful. I had to delete and reinstall some files. Hope, if you are still having probs, give me a buzz and I'll come over and try to rid you of the pest once and for all!
If all else fails, massive quantities of alcohol deter most viruses, and if it doesn't, who cares??

Ok everyone---rest easy---the "attack" of subseven did not eminate from Marty's site as we figured was very likely, just happened to occur simultaneously while I was on this here board. So, no one need worry about that! Apparently just one of those rogues out there in cyberworld who has nothing better to do than try hacking into all of our universes. (Get a life dude)

Rick/Cheri - Subseven is a back door trojan whereby, if successful, the intruder can gain access & control of your puter. Not a nice thing. The "firewall" is a piece of software which blocks most (if not all) attempts of this type. Subseven is only one of many trojans, does NOT come attached (normally) to an e-mail and piters hookd directly into the web via cable/dsl/wireless are most vulnerable. Almost impossible for one to gain access through dialup I am told. And for you Mac users out there, you are pretty much safe anyway....one of the FEW advantages to a Mac....relatively few viruses/trojans work in Mac environment.

Pier Lounge---have not heard of your solution before, but sounds like it might work...gotta check it out.

And finally -- Marty -- thanks for jumping on this so quick, glad we got it all (relatively) figured out. Thanks for sharing!

Be careful out there!

A lot of people don't have ar cannot afford the fancy overpriced virus "software"
this is a nuts and bolts approach.
It works great--every day in fact.
I save Norton for the real problems.
Plus if you a good enough hacker, you can find the origin and flood them.
Microsoft still is the 'Evil Empire' though.
All this stuff should be a free fix from the dopey zillionare.
Jim

that !000000 is not as useful as we think. I did it, and have since found out that viruses do not start alpabetically, they randomly use your address book.

We use cable and do use firewalls on our computers.
Each to their own. I guess whatever works for individuals is their choice.

I'm really computer illiterate???But we haven't had any problems like ya'll speak of. Hell, I always thought "Trojan" was a condom!!!LOL Jim can explain better to me when i'm there!! Coconut