Should Nevada legalize the regulation of Marijuana?

All the states should at least have a medical marijuanna program.

i absolutely completely and totally think that pot should be legal. period.

I absolutely completely and totally think that pot should never be legal. period.

I'm with Lara on that issue.

I think it should be legalized, and controlled, like alcohol. The Gov. would reap big $$ from taxing it. Plus, you would hopefully know it wasn't dusted with something else. (unless you WANT it dusted with something else!) Have had some in my youth that kicked my tail...for days. Would never wish that on anyone!

Don't legalize it. Make it mandatory!

Legalize, big mistake!
Quality would drop and the price would skyrocket considerably when the FDA gets involved.

Back in the late 6o's R.J.Renolds Co. aquired the Federal growing rights to Panama Red, Acapulco Gold and several other types just incase pot became legal. I really don't think the quality would go down. It would be too competitive just like tobacco is today. Price would go down due to the fact that it is legal and there would be no risk involved in growing.

Wow, didn't think there would be that much disparity? Small sample, though.

Wonder if demographics: age, male/female, resident/vistor/LT vistor/native, etc. are as diverse?

Legalize it for sure

ABSOLUTELY NOT! NO WAY!!!

I have two nephews that grew up without their dad because of drugs. Now my brother is trying to make it up to them now, a decade or two, too late. I had a cousin who took his own life at age 20 in 1979 because of drugs. He hung himself in the closet. My aunt had to cut him down.

I'm so sorry your family has had such a difficult time, ArtZ. I think almost all of us can identify with you on that level. But, I can almost guarantee the things that have happened to your family were not because of marijuana. Perhaps the harder drugs, but weed is very quiet, issues are not enhanced, the most you would do is eat yourself into a coma, or laugh yourself into a stupor. If it is laced with stronger stuff, such a thing can happen, but it is pretty rare. If you are prone to trying to get that elusive buzz, you might go for the stronger stuff. Legalizing weed wouldn't do anything to further or limit that from happening. If someone wants to get the big guns, they will, and the government's control of weed wouldn't stop them.

Here in Oregon, with a medical marijuana permit, one is licensed by the state to grow. You can have 6 large flowering adult plants, 13 smaller plants (under 1 foot), and can possess up to 24 ounces dried. the police, doctors, courts, etc all got together and rewrote the bill a couple years ago and it passed in a popular vote of the state.

http://www.oregon.gov/DHS/ph/ommp/
http://www.voterpower.org/


you cracked me up bigtime bearfoot gibby...

Thanks Marty, I have been subjected the rants and raves of anti pot alarmists for years who start the day with their legal pain pills, chased by their legal muscle relaxers, then get home and drink their legal cocktails mixed with their legal antidepressants. I don't understand why when it comes to marijauna and hemp that they can't see clearly enough to "Legal Eyes" it.

That's quite a guarantee you offer there Sun&sand can you also offer one that will guarantee some pothead stoned out of his brains won't drive over my grandchildren at the bus stop?

After 30+ years in the medical field I can tell you that marijuana is by far less harmful to your body than alchohol. They're not even in the same ballpark.

seen plenty of both don't want either in my ballpark, thankyou!

Rykat, that' cool but when are you going to stop chasing that dragon?

So does this thread decide the pot smokers from the non??

I'll take the 5th on that TQ, but I say legalize it, don't criticize it. Who sang that lyric?

Sounds like a rap song.

Actually, a reggae tune by Peter Tosh.

Bring it on. I don't smoke, but the War on Drugs has done more societal harm than the legalization of Pot could ever do.

http://www.purplethink.com/epinion/DrugsRUs.asp

TQ, yup thinks it safe to say you can pick the do's from the don'ts (and from this don't, damn proud of it!)

Check out the 1936 movie "Reefer Madness", a propoganda film funded by Randolph Hearst when he found out that hemp would begin being used to produce paper (he owned lots and lots of forests). The movie was remade recently and was a musical on Broadway, but you have to see the original to get the full effect. Teenager who smokes marijuana comes home from school and murders his entire family.....now, I don't know about anyone else, but most folks I know who have smoked pot don't even want to get off the couch to get more Oreos, much less get off the couch to murder someone.....but the movie is very telling.......

Rykat, I don't do it either. Makes one tired, paranoid, crazy and worst of all HUNGRY! But I wouldn't know - heck no, not me. Heard that from my brothers girlfriends sisters dog. That ole thing told me. Otherwise, I wouldn't know. :p

Rykat enjoyed the silver screen debut of "Reefer Madness" when he was 16!

I think he still has the poster.

Get MADD Rykat, don't kill the trees, they keep you home and not driving and running over your children (they ride the bus?)

You should focus your energy towards gun control....like the 25 school shootings so far this year alone! (not potheads knocking over bus stops - good attempted spin though).

SIN

http://store.aetv.com/html/product/index.jhtml?id=70805

Recently shown on the History Channel a good look at why pot was criminalized (mainly to get rid of the Mexicans.)

SimonB -- I knew this issue would bringyou out of hiding :p

I admit to nothing other than a dislike of stupid governmental policies and the usual US bully tactics (Canada and Mexico both got a spanking for trying to legalize weed.)

I have mixed feelings regarding this subject..especially after my step son killed a lady while he was driving stoned from weed. If it is legalized, I think it should be like alcohol.....do what you want at home.....but do not use it and drive! Unfortunately this policy does not work for booze...but it is a step in the right direction. My friends may think they have a right to have a joint or a drink...but I also have a right.......to travel safely on roads.

I would like to see just one post that did not bash the U.S.of A.

I would gladly rescind my comments if someone can give me a valid reason for one sovereign nation dictating to another what their laws should be when it has no direct impact on their own populace. :rolleyes:

immissing: try a Rush Limburger website. There's some real clearheaded US thinking that should please you and Rykat.

I have literally been around the world and I can honestly say... without hesitation for all of its' faults, the United States is by far the best country in the world to live... period.

Sure we have our faults... no one or no country is perfect... Sure we have some goofy leaders, but look around the planet and tell me one that isn't? You can't...

And some of these leaders are brutal as hell towards the people they are supposedly representing.

Having said that... Have I smoked pot? Yes, of course I have, but I didn't inhale it... but I held my breath as long as I could and finally had to give in and breathe it all in... I didn't want to breath it in but then for some reason the people around me became more tolerable.

Have I tried other ummmm brain enhancing drugs? No... after my experience with pot I found out that I was looney enough and didn't need any help along the way. And believe me this was all taking place in the 60's and 70's.

Now all the people that agree with me, stand over to my right... the people that disagree to the left. Maybe after a few more tokes you can fall, trip or stumble to the right or the left.

And I don't want to see anyone disagree with me on here... cause why? It doesn't make a flying you know what. In the scheme of things of reality... it doesn't matter... if it did, you would be sitting in Washington or someplace making laws...

I forget... legalize it and move on...

Canada and Mexico oughta get spanked for plenty of reasons, who cares.
wanna think of something really scary....gringostarr or SIN having children! Now that's a 10 on the scary sh**ometer!
Don't look for that post E, ya ain't gonna find it here!
(aw, DS you were doin' great till that last line)

I always screw comething up... was it my English or my delivery?

you guys sound old...

we are!

he is!

it was your accent

Can't argue with Simon or Denny. Love the U.S., and I 've travelled a fair amount to compare. That doesn't mean I have to agree with a looney war on drugs.

Denny: good post above. LOL. I say it ain't nobody's business but my own.

Simon, I dont think our neighbors to the north can be bullied by anyone. If our neighbors to the south could be bullied we would not be building a fence to keep illegal aliens and other "stuff" out.

I will not respond to that sleeze ball that lives under a rock.

Back to the subject, using weed or anything else is a decision we each make and is of no concern to me what so ever.

For those that don't know, as countries go, Canada and the US are like brothers. Canada may be the slower, less aggressive, less sophisticated, somewhat retarded runt brother, but they're still brothers. It IS a wonderful place to live, and I wouldn't trade it for anything (ceptin' maybe San Pedro.... )
I have no problem with pot being legalized for medicinal use, nor do I have a problem with pot being decriminalized. The End.

my eyes! my eyes! I need a toke!!

Light 'em up, bro!

the troll sounds sinfully familiar! :p

Ozarks said: "my step son killed a lady while he was driving stoned from weed. If it is legalized, I think it should be like alcohol.....do what you want at home.....but do not use it and drive!"

seashell says: legalized or not, it is illegal to drive while impaired and that means whether on alcohol or pot. Currently, alcohol impairment can be measured and legally impaired is at .08 BAC(at least here at home). How they will make a determination as to how stoned a person is or is not on pot, I dunno.

Maybe it will depend on how many cheese doodles are laying on the floor of the car.

That said, my vote . . um, what, um, . . . where are my cheese doodles?

Just kidding, I don't do it but I'm for legalization.

I have watched my Sister decend into stupidity from smoking EVERY day..She forgets stuff drives like a madman and cares little about herself. Is it the Weed...don't know...But I don't think she sould spent 20 years in jail cause she wants to ruin her life...

Enuf Said...get off soap box...kicks sand and dives into the ocean

Some of my fondest memories are from the late 60's early 70's, so I think ya all know my answer.
As Bob Dillon once sang "Everybody must get stoned" at least once anyway.

Moderation

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH! Moderation? ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!

Does a wake and bake fall under moderation category??

Ya' see if Sadam, Bin Laden, the Korean guy and GWB all smoked weed (even better, together) - things would be much stupider but a lot less bloodier - fi true!

24hr drive-in BBQs in Iraq, Falafel House in Texas - Utopia!


SIN

ahahahahahhahahaha and some more folks can't mention who tho...

ah, go 'head, TQ, mention 'em

oh boy, i have been quietly on this soapbox for years. i know folks who do and who do not.

i rarely drink and i think alcohol is by far the most dangerous and abused drug out there. you all think it is no big deal. i do. but i dont tell folks to criminalize it. nor do i shun you for it.

why do some people have to include all drug abusers ruining their (or their loved ones)lives to reflect the effects of pot? that is like saying someone drinking a glass of wine at night is equal to someone who drinks 2 quarts of tequila each day.

i do not believe in driving under the influence of ANYTHING. that said, most of us have done it at least once in oour lives.

i do not believe dope has caused ANY deaths, unless you can prove it. people get killed in car accidents everyday, with no drugs associated. some people are just lousy drivers, fiddle with their radios or cell phones, yell at their kids. should we make those things illegal, since they all cause auto deaths? infidelity destroys families all the time, but no one even thinks to put a fine on that. our society accepts it as "the way it is".

no laugh to moderation, either. no laugh at all. dessert is great. but if you eat 5 daily, you will be fat. the warm sun feels wonderful on vaca, but sit in it all day for a year and you will most likely get skin cancer and/or look 90. a little eye make-up looks fab on me, but too much & i look like a hooker.a belgian unfiltered beer is terrific to unwind after a long week, but a case will put you on your ass. a case a day will end up destroying your family and liver. so, whoever laughs at moderation, think again.

i am with S&S, do it up like alcohol or tobacco, have the govt regulate & tax the **** out of it. no one under 18 or 21 should be allowed to buy. most should be happy to pay for the alternative of not getting busted, or having to deal with questionable people to obtain it, and organized crime and street shootings will decline. revenue will increase.

i am a product of the 70's, and have seen & tried a lot of stuff. that doesnt mean i do it. dope is not heroin. or coke, or even a bottle of whiskey. i have seen several very successful business people, parents, REPUBLICANS, tax-paying and otherwise law abiding citizens partake socially over the years. none of their lives were ruined nor have they shot anyone or committed vehicular homicide. in fact, they are productive parts of society.

let's see those statistics for alcohol realted deaths & divorces compared to marijuana ones, please??? oh, JMHO.

Standarize it, regulate it, and tax the he** out of it! Let the cops go after the really nasty stuff.

Then watch Belize Customs get rich off of it.

Very well put Sweetjane.
Gringostarr, what are you talking about?

SJ: I already know statistics because I did some research on it. And you are right, there is NO comparison. Alcohol is by far the deadliest drug ever known and kills more people than every other drug combined known to mankind.

One out of every three drivers in the US will be involved in a alcohol related driving accident during their lifetime.

Traffic fatalities in alcohol-related crashes fell by 2.4 percent, from 17,105 in 2003 to 16,694 in 2004. Although this is definitely an improvement, it is still a lot of dead fellow citizens. To put this in perspective, it is equivalent to a fully loaded Boeing 747 crashing, and leaving no survivors, every nine days all year long – over 39 airplanes in total.

The 16,694 fatalities in alcohol-related crashes during 2004 represent an average of one alcohol-related fatality every 31 minutes.

NHTSA estimates that alcohol was involved in 39 percent of fatal crashes and in 7 percent of all crashes in 2004.

In 2004, 21 percent of the children age 14 and younger who were killed in motor vehicle crashes were killed in alcohol-related crashes.

An estimated 248,000 people were injured in crashes where police reported that alcohol was present — an average of one person injured approximately every 2 minutes.

there used to be an old joke (sorry, i tell 'em bad):

cop pulls a mellow stoned guy in a car over.
cop says "son, do you know how fast you were going?"
"no officer. i'm sorry. what did i do?"
"son, you were doing 25 in a 45 zone".

ok, so it's not funny, but you get the jist. thanks for the back up and statistics, friends. (hey rykat, any comments?)

now, looking at the stats, why does this issue get so much negative press and no support? i think cuz the govt set it up so that anyone who thinks this way will most likely be under scrutiny, so no one will speak up. JMHO

SIN: You statistics do not even include the thousands of folks who die from liver failure, alcohol poisoning or other accidents involving alcohol - namely, falls. So, the statistics are staggering. Never see something like this in the paper or on the news: "Man dies in crash from smoking marijuana."

more like "man smokes weed, can't get off couch,doesn't work for years, still living with parents at 55 years of age." i know several that fit that scenario.

Boy, Timo - those folks must smoke lots of weed. I know people that are just the opposite.

I've seen both sides of that. I guess it depends on what kind of work ethic one has. I knew one guy that didn't smoke, and just drank a little. Lazy butt-head didn't want to work. Then I've seen one guy that took a few hits off a joint before he started work (home repair job) and worked like a mad man. He had his "smoke" breaks, but he did (and still does) wonderful work. He takes pride in his work. Like I said, depends on what kind of intestinal fortitude a person has.

i too know deadbeats who would NEVER smoke. yet i had a older friend who loved to take 2 puffs then clean her house top to bottom or completely redo her huge flower garden. knew a guy, smoked b4 work every day, earned well over 6 figures who thought it made him write code better, and almost never missed a day of work. i think dc is right, depends who you are by nature.

point is, i guess, i think dope gets a bad rap. i don't see what is so horrible about it that it is so taboo. lack of real knowledge about it? yet we turn a blind eye to the many perils of alcohol. paradoxical? i just don't quite get it.

who turns a blind eye to alcohol? nonsense. I couldn't care less about this conversation mainly because I don't drink (much) and do not do drugs and IMHO if you have to constantly alter your mind , you don't have one!
And to be perfectly honest if your drunk or stoned, stay away from me...have NO tolerance level for drunks or dopeheads.
Nobody asked but that's my opinion,take it or leave it. :p

hey rykat, sorry man. didnt really mean anything personal, it isnt my style. i only used your name cuz i thought you had a strong opinion earlier in the thread.

friends????

ok, ps - some of the greatest minds in human history altered their minds in some way. i even saw that on history channel that early homo sapiens cultivated mind altering plants that were used to form the basis of religion in pre-history. ok, no real point, but i thought it was a fun fact.

"have NO tolerance level for drunks or dopeheads"

You do realize this is the Ambergris Caye message board, correct?

"stay away from me", perhaps, stay away from us fits you better.

IMHO

SIN

speaking of altered minds! No this is the chat section, numb nuts, where maybe someone might have a different point of view from YOU!

ROFLMAO at SIN. dude, (sorry rykat, can't help myself), you are so right!!! and with bars every 20 feet, i guess he better stay off AC too???

Please! The laws dealing with driving while under the influence of alcohol in this country are a joke. In every state I know of there are no serious penalties until at least the THIRD time you are caught - or until you kill someone. Most places you loose your driver's license for a year - like that keeps people from driving! I'm a strong proponent of forfieture laws, get caught driving under the influence of alcohol, loose your car - now that might keep some of them off the street. Won't necessarily keep them from harming themselves, but will seriously cut down on the harm they do to others. Of course, we'll never see that, because by and large this country DOES turn a blind eye to alcohol.
Oh, and "I only drink a little" ? Being a little drunk is like being a little pregnant. One drink impairs.

That said, I'm a huge fan of drinking! Just don't get behind the wheel of a car after you've had a couple.

Ok, that's my rant - I'm off to fix a margarita!

Rykat said: "IMHO if you have to constantly alter your mind , you don't have one!"

seashell replies: IMHO if you don't need to alter your mind once in awhile, there's not enough going on in there in the first place.

I'm with law.

unaltered - stupid!

I'm with Rykat.

you know what i'm against? closed minded people who don't have experience or facts and need to resort to personal attacks and name calling.

unaltered - stupid is ME, silly! (oops sorry about the silly)

One also has to concider age though. Not everyone has "experimented". Or if so did not inhale.

absolutely agreed, deacon. but if one does not know about someting, one should not have the end-all view on it.

example - i have never been to sweet basil, so i am not qualified to say that casa picasso is better. or whatever. comprende?

Sometimes People only go by what they have read/heard/raised with and that is what they stand by. Wrong, yes, but that is the way with alot of issues not just pot. I feel that if you have not experianced something first hand one should be careful as to expressing an opionion. Just my opioion for what it is worth.

again, agreed, deacon. that is where beautiful things like racism, prejudice, and genocide come from.

example of that; true(and over-told) story:when i first came to bz in'93, a lady at the houston airport bar told us that the people in bz were violent and criminals who would cut off my finger to get my rings, and don't carry valuables, or we may get killed.

wow, were we surprised to learn the opposite was true.

hope you get my drift about unqualified views. they start wars, and worse.

Read the book REEFER MADNESS by Eric Schlosser...fascinating (hic - had to add that one to lighten things up a bit) This is the same guy that wrote FAST FOOD NATION. An excellent read no matter what side of the fence one is on.

One of my cop buddies who is all for legalizing weed said that full legalization will never happen until impairment(motor vehicle operation and such) can be measured. Decriminalize it for sure yes as is in the case in a few places. No reason to rot in jail and get butt-reamed for having a spliff.

stretching kinda tight there sweetjane, racism, predjudice,genocide/pot smoking? "unqualified views"? don't know where to go with that one. Back to the pot, been there done it, don't need it, just MHO!
I have never experienced murder, war, abortion, etc deacon but I surely should be able to express a strong opinion about any and all!

not camparing these things to each other, it is a broader concept, i was speaking of close mindedness. guess i'm trying to talk to a stone.

cb - your friend makes sense. again, driving under the influence of anything should still be highly discouraged. agree on decriminalize.

ps - no one can hurt me, i have a 4 month old kitten sleeping on my lap...

Never judge a man until you've walked a mile in his shoes. (Or in some cases, Red High Heels!) :p

I like high heels...makes a woman's back arch in that way that.....but man they must hurt...maybe they need a spliff?

Rykat, please don't think my comment was directed at you. It wasn't.

I used to wear them for work all the time (when I had a high-rise office job) Now all I wear are tennis shoes and flip flops. I LOVE the agriculture field of work! But every now and then I long for my high heel leather boots....
Been wanting to find some that come up almost to my knees,but haven't found a pair yet that I like at a price I like....opps off topic....oh well, back to spliffing......

Ya know after a few tokes how funny this thread reads?

no offense taken deacon.

been called a lot of thangs, DS, but that's the first time a "stone", should I get used to it? ;)keep toke'n!

DCG....second-hand shops in Manhattan, specifically the East Village....if you cannot find bitch boots there then I suggest a trip to Paris? Pucci, Gucci, Comme de Garcons - a woman in Comme de Garcons (pants/shirt) with nice boots (vintage)? Deelish. EAst village for a couple of days will make you feel righteously female.

Is this gay or just appreciative of a put-together broad? Don't bogart that joint my friend. :rolleyes:

cb - that was little feat!! haven't heard that in YEARS! and no, not gay, it is metrosexual. very hip these days.

personally, i like boots that come up to my mid-thigh...

...what were we talking about??

I love them too....love to look....Lil' Feat....a great band...ASK THE ROCK N' ROLL DOCTOR'S ADVICE! (not yellin'- jes playin)

BTW south park did a great take on METRO SEXUAL, they were THE CRAB PEOPLE....pass me annuddah (swoooooooooooshhhhh)

Besides, with a name like SWEET JANE? gimme a break....the Cowboy Junkies from Toronto gave THE BEST take on that song!

so weird you should say that. it's been my nickname since high school & my email for at least 10 yrs. last year we were walking thtu this ancient town in turkey. old stone houses falling down and ruins everywhere.

then, i stop bruce and said "listen!!!". he didnt really know the song...but the opening notes were playing from a short distance away. two old men drinking had a radio on, and in the middle of freaking turkey, i said "OMG, that's my song!!!" i tried to tell the men, but they spoke no english. so, we ended up drinking wine & coffee with them, and whooping it up laughing for an hour or more, gesturing wildly as we totally couldn't understand each other. except two words, used together "Bush...Bu%#$hit".

so, that's my cbjunkies sweet jane story. the end.

alo all, thees is me best british accent...

hi toad. long time. you missed some fun.

really?....it seems like the same old not so old bs....

tell me who's been naughty and nice...

me...both!

hey guys, thanks for so much interesting facts, opinions & statistics. we had a long chat on pros/cons of alcohol, tobacco & pot with our 13 yr old last night (how timely he asked now), and i had pertinent info, thanks to you all.

i hear that the boys from oklahoma roll their joints all wrong,way too skinny,way too long.....

Yeah, I hear ya! My 14 year old started to ask questions also. Like, buy your own weed Dad!

JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!

(made ya' laugh though)

SIN