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#216186 - 06/12/02 07:29 PM Re: Football field
Anonymous
Keycocker seems to be quite reasonable in expecting the government to abide by its own laws. If all roads are supposed to link together then they should.

The only place the road should go is in the middle of the airstrip as a continuation of the road on the other side. Eventually this will have to have a bypass on at least one end, most likely east.

I would think that a court of law would see that the middle road in the village was made to connect to the road in the center of the south part of the island and order Vega to provide an easement.

It is the right thing to do even if it is across a "locals" land. There must be infrastructure brought to this part of the island. The offer of a ball field may be interpreted as a "carrot on a stick" but is a good offer none the less. Everyone will benefit from this, even Vega.

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#216187 - 06/12/02 11:31 PM Re: Football field
Anonymous
Okay, now I understand about the road not connecting. It sounds like it should as a logical extension of the road on the other side of the airstrip. That's my opinion.

Now for another question. Where is this football field supposed to be placed? I see a nature reserve on the south side that seems to be about where the road should run through. Is this part of the area for the new football field?

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#216188 - 06/13/02 12:06 AM Re: Football field
Anonymous
I am sorry Sunshine.I didn't mean to hurt your feelings with that stuff. I was kidding you too hard on that. In my posts I noted that I am a fan of the Caye Caulker Customs like "who da from here" I have been amused by discussions of this among villagers since the seventies. I am even guilty of encouraging folks to expound their list of "who da from here" (and the many amusing exceptions) Sorry to one and all.

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#216189 - 06/13/02 12:41 AM Re: Football field
Anonymous
Perhaps I should note that I am a longtime supporter of "whodafromhere" and have a list myself! I always recomended local guys for everything. I try to move around and patronize every new or old local place to boost up villagers if they are "from here" by my system. I do this because I have seen many villagers grow up from kids and I like to see them succeed. They didn't inherit this respect -they earned it themselves.

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#216190 - 06/13/02 12:19 PM Re: Football field
sunshine Offline
Thanks Keycocker!

;-)

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#216191 - 06/13/02 09:44 PM Re: Football field
Anonymous
the great thinker wrote:

"The only place the road should go is in the middle of the airstrip as a continuation of the road on the other side. Eventually this will have to have a bypass on at least one end, most likely east"

Now, lets all try to make sense out of nonsense. thinker says that "the only place the road should go is in the middle of the airstrip..."

I will post his/her comment again " THE ONLY PLACE THE ROAD SHOULD GO IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE AIRSTRIP..."

Why would any right thinking person even want to put a road "in the middle of the airstrip?" Don't shoot me, I am just quoting "thinker." The middle of the airstrip is where the airplanes land. do you really want to mix airplanes and vehicles at the middle spot, thinker? Think, thinker, THINK, ma mein!

thinker's next line is "Eventually this will have to have a bypass on at least one end, most likely east". Again, don't shoot me, thinker wrote that line.

If eventually this will have to have a bypass, why bother to build a middle-of-the-airstrip road? do you think caye caulker is so rich that we can afford to pay twice for two roads to accomplish one single thing? as long as they are using only your tax dollars to build the middle of the airstrip road, thinker, fine. I say lets go for it. let's build three roads to the south point instead, middle, east and west. maybe you have tons of tax money to give the gob. I certainly don't.

The problem with the thinkers of this island is that they are blinded by tunnel vision. they cannot see things except one way - their way. they are all guilty of the same fever, all our thinkers and leaders.

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#216192 - 06/14/02 07:06 AM Re: Football field
Anonymous
for Not As Good A Thinker

The only road going the distance to the airstrip at this time is the middle road.

The plans for south of the airstrip are all layed out for a middle road, except for the Vega property.

Why do you object to the shortest run for the road? Would this not cost the least?

Yes, I did say that eventually a bypass would need to be made toward one end or the other of the airstrip, this would link back to the middle road. It would only be a short run, just like Placencia.

Would you prefer that it ran along the beach on the east? What would it connect to?

Just exactly where would you propose the road be built?

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#216193 - 06/14/02 11:50 AM Re: Football field
Anonymous
the great thinker wrote "Why do you object to the shortest run for the road? Would this not cost the least?"

i object to the shortest run for the road because it is not the most sensible location for a road. a road down the middle of the airstrip would surely cost less in monetary terms, but a whole truck-load more in terms of (potential) accidents and human lives, maybe even your own. skating a road down an area where an airplane's lift off is a few dozen feet at best is foolhardy and shows a real lack of imagination on the part of whoever is planning this scenario.

the safetest and best way to push a road is either on the east or west side of the island (beach road), where vehicles would be least in the way of incoming and departing airplanes.

whether the south point road is built to meet the other road in the middle of the airstrip should be of no consequence whatsoever at this time. the south point road was planned at a time when there was no airstrip yet. things have changed since then. unbuild that road, and build another one where it is much more logical to do so and much safer for both vehicular, pedestrian and airline traffic.

don't get stuck in the short-sighted tunnel vision you seem to live in, thinker. think, ma mein

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#216194 - 06/16/02 11:26 PM Re: Football field
Anonymous
I still think the bypass road linking to the middle road is the best. The road is down the middle of the island to the airstrip already. The south part is designed to have a middle road linking all properties. Only one property is in the way, the Vega land. He designed his development after the others and should have taken the road requirements into consideration. The beach land should be preserved.

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#216195 - 06/18/02 02:03 AM Re: Football field
Anonymous
I don't think it is my place to make decisions. The Belizeans must do that. Folks in my area try to support local ideas even if we wouldn't do things that way on our own. When the airport people and village Council, etc. decided to move the road to the seaside it seemed like a well intentioned project so we began only crossing that way.It was a pain. After a short while it became obvious that only we were doing it. The villagers all used the middle road.I asked two of the pilots about it. They pointed out that the road is not in the middle of the runway. It is a hundred feet east (seawards) of the end of the paved airstrip.They said that the sand is very soft there and if they were low enough to hit us then they were also likely to be in the middle of a plane crash already. We have a very long runway so some pilots get lazy and take off from halfway against company orders and good sense. After a couple of months we saw Village Council and others using this road while we went the long way around. Old habits die hard with most folks. Finally we went back to using the old road with everyone else.

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