Do not bring your animals to the area around or at split bar unless you want to be threatened or have your animal shot...stray dogs have been shot with pellet guns and left for others to clean up or care for injured animals.

i have seen this with my own eyes. how they let the owner get away with this is beyond me. he should have his liquor license revoked.

We were told by one of the locals that mistreatment of the animals (dogs) is fairly common on CC. Anybody with an idea why? Different cultural attitudes toward animals?

If that is thrue, we should boycott this bar. And the license should be withdrawed.

It sounds like the bar is doing the village council job of geting rid of the stray dogs on the island. Keep up the good work. Do you need any donations for more pellets.

You can tell alot about a person that treats animals this way....i guess that doesn't say much for you.

The people in Caye Caulker have no regard for any living thing. I too have seen some things on that island that make me not want to come back. The police are worthless, the people are heartless, and the local passtime is seeing how much they can take from the people who visit. Great water but nasty people.

Wow, that is a little bit of an overstatement! Who peed in your Post Toasties SafetyGuy3? You do not exactly sound unbiased and objective in your assessments, but you are entitled to your opinion. Hope you do not come back though, which makes me wonder why you are still reading and posting on this board if CC is such a horrible place. Maybe you and Thug Life could get together and exchange ideas on how to run CC down.

Real men use pellet guns to injure stray dogs as "population control"? This is sickening. What's wrong with those people at the split bar? I'm never going back to that hell hole pit again.

It's a real shame that the whole Caye Caulker Population gets a bad rap, because of a few bad seeds. There are many persons who love animals here and do their best for stray dogs and cats as well as help others with the health and care of their pets.

As far as Big George and his staff is concerned, I believe they have no self respect or self esteem, for why would anyone hurt defenseless animals unless it was to magnify themselves in the own hearts? I feel only sadness that the rest of CC is brought down by their thoughtless actions.
If you want to boycott his bar, great. Better though to let him know exactly why you aren't going to be a patron.
Allie

You say the truth Allie.

It doesn't matter where you go in the world there a small minds everywhere. Real people can see beyond the actions of a few.

--Bill

I agree with the person above. There are indeed a lot of small minded people on CC and a lot hang out at the spot with the G. Someone need to teach those people a lesson or two. Everone should boycott the Split especially this wkend! The G made no effort to contribute in any way to the Lobster Fest, yet he is stocking up on cases of beers for the wkend. Lets boycott the spot this wkend and send those egoistic people back to where they came from. We love animals!!

Well, the Split Bar does not owe the Lobsterfest anything. The Lobsterfest committee are a group of private individuals promoting the festival to raise money so they can all go to Cancun to party, not for any civic minded reason. If I want to give money away so others can party at my expense, I would give it to people I like, not give it away to someone just because they want to make me feel guilty for not donating.

That is why I love this message board.. and the last post was very funny!!!! I laugh my ass.... So you people have nothing to do .. I see just like me..
Funny shit.. but I gusse it is a hoax. right?

I guess that I "mash su peps corn" when a se that some people no donate anything to lobster fest! Well in case you all don't know the lobster fest committee don't gather money to go party at Cancun.Because you donate to one cause no mean you can't donate to the next neither! They use the money to fix the fence at the school paint the school and the church jointly with CCVC.The Veterans even gave money to Jerry Badillo and a few other islanders who needed urgent medical attention! You people obviously don't know shit! except the bad that happpens on CC.
Di only thing Big G donate is the school because he is associated with A teacher that is presently on leave.
The only reason you all talk about our chairman is because you all can not manipulate him by paying him off with drinks and bribry. Maybe that is why lil CC won't prosper; because no only some of the locals narrow minded but the wanna be locals even more so, especially when they can't have their own way.

Way to go Local Butterfyl!!!!

I don't know how any body can sit by and watch some one abuse a animal without speaking out. I certainly won't be one.

I am a animal lover that thinks most animals have more feelings & brains than a lot of humans.

Humans are the real animals.

Is Big George the really big guy that drives around in a heavy duty golf cart?

Is Big George the really big guy that drives around in a heavy duty golf cart?

Well maybe Big George got what was coming to him since Lobsterfest and any late night drinking at The Split was unceremoniously cut short this past weekend when the wind quit blowing, the electricity went out, and the mosquitos from Hell took over! I tried to hang at Lazy Lizard, but too many damn bugs eating me alive and I was not the only one who called it quits. There were tons of people pouring out of there, locals included. The only pleasure I got out of the bad turn of events was that I was hoping Big George lost his ass, which would be quite a large loss, if you know what I mean. Kudos to all who worked to make Lobsterfest a success and [#%!] on lazy tight wads, who are always willing to profit off the hard work of others without lifting a finger themselves. Unfortunately, there are always going to be people like Big George, who think simply because they have a little money that they are better than everyone else. They usually get theirs before it is all said and done.

Hey Lobster King Liar If you were at the split you would know that we never lost electric at all, but the palapa's where the lobster fest was being held did.I want to thank everyone for there lies and negative comments on this board. We had the best money making weekend ever. Big Fat George, Laughing all the way to the bank!!

I think Big George and the Lazy Lizard Bar have unjustly received a bad rap on this thread. No where on the first message to the thread did the poster say that Big George or any of his employees was shooting stray dogs. Everyone is ASSUMING this is what was said and all should apologize to Big George.

I, for one, think Big George is a dynamite guy who contributes quite a lot of $$ to many island projects.

Thanks and cheers,
Wendy

Well, I guess after the lobster Fest wkend not only animals were being shot out at the Split but people two. I understand several shots went off in the split area. Maybe G really should have his liquor license revoked! After this, expect to be picking up dead people!

Congrats to all the individuals who made this years Lobster Fest a success especial Mr. Humes!

I understand from my first reading that it clearly states were all the commotion happened! Nobody should apology to George, maybe George should just go sit under a coconut tree since he came to CC to retire not to make money. Maybe he should donate all his money to other organizations other than D SCHOOL! His response clearly states his selfishness and greed!
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Local butterfly, your messages are a lot of assumptions and no facts. You lose a lot of credibility that way, unfortunately, and you come across like a bundle of "sour grapes". Lighten up.

Thanks and cheers,
Wendy Auxillou
Auxillou Beach Suites

I can clearly recall someone congratulating the girls for running a board, and I do to. When I post a reply it is not in "character assasnation, slander or to neutralize the competiton", it is simply an up and coming strong minded youth voicing a position!
And maybe a few people can stop encouraging the narrow mindedness, CC would be Heaven then!

If what I'm hearing is true, maybe The Split Staff could take donations for spaying and neutering...that is the main problem I've seen on my visits to CC. Actually I've witnessed many kindnesses toward dogs and owners who keep theirs on leashes...that's the best scenerio...the worst I've seen is simple ignorance and neglect. If I find out this is true, I won't visit The Lazy Lizard again...and I'll spread the word.

How about the Village Council or some other Animal Lover on this board solving the island's over population of stray dogs (and cats).

I run a business here and there is a constant flow of stray dogs at my place, dropping their fleas and huge 'garapatas'; it is disgusting. The dogs and cats are even in restaurants.

Personally I've had enough of them and would like to see the stray dog / cat problem on the island solved.

Okay, so maybe shooting them with pellets isn't the answer. In the old days, they used to put them in a crokus sack and drop them off on Northern Caye Caulker. If they survived and made it back to the village they lived, otherwise they died...

I don't think that is the humane thing to do either. I am just pointing out that this is an aged old problem.

People who own dogs - keep them at home!

Culturally we are different. All the animal lovers / visitors tend to tend to their pets like children. They will by-pass a starving child, but not an animal (like an earlier post by someone who thought people were worst than animals).

You have people who are pro-animal and others are pro-humans. The pro-animal group can form a society or kennel or adoption for strays or whatever for the animals they love so much. GET THEM OFF THE ISLAND!

Me, I have enough children of my own and there are way too many straving children out there for me to give a hoot about animals, but it does not mean that I will be cruel to them. They are just not a priority for me. Still, I have seen guests buy these animals steak and feed them at my place and I feel sorry for all the starving families who would have done better with that food. Stray dogs can eat the left overs disposed of by restaurants and families AFTER the HUMANS have eaten!

The fact that guests feed the animals also mean that the animals will stay or return expecting to be feed even more, but other guests may no feel the same about the strays. It is a big problem. In fact, some guests are actually alergic to animals (cats) and cannot stay at places that have had animals there. Plus the dogs turn over the trash and make even more mess.

Like I said, it is a matter of priorities. Animal lovers, solve CC's stray animal population please, or the animal un-sympathetic will.

We can't all just go and incur $10K worth of expense to fence our yards to keep the stray dog population OUT! Fencing won't only keep the dogs out, it will keep the guests / business out too.

there absolutely has to be some other recourse than shooting the strays! however, it does really gross me out when we're enjoying a great dinner at ANY one of the wonderful outdoor restaurants on CC & some mangy animal (cat or dog) brushes up against my legs & won't leave me alone. & it is sooo irritating to see the people at the next table feeding it or acting sooo excited to be dining with a mangy stray! I have nothing against cats & dogs, I feel the same way about dining with roosters or iguanas!

My sentiments exactly!

Reading this thing has given me a few good laughs!
It's unbeleivable that people live here and conduct themselves in barbic manners on this island but I guess that is expected whem ignorance is bliss.
But for those who have gotten into name calling, rumours and speculation of this issue should ease down a little.
The only person who is truly laughing is G man and his employees. You know how much business this has drawn up for him?
Who cares if who(m) or what is doing with his money as WE are the ones who entertain it. Is there anyone putting a gun or knife to your body and directing to the split to buy a drink or socialize? I don't think so.
Yes , there is something being done about the dog and cat population.There is a clinic run out here at the Belize Diving every few months or so to have local animals fixed. It is adverise on this island a week before the vet is schdeule to come.
Why don't ppl get there facts straight before they flap their mouths with negativity.

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Well everyone I have spent a long time on CC;9 months over the last year and I found the place to be full of lovely people.
Of course there were a fair amount of idiots as one would expect to find anywhere...
It is not Heaven.But then where is...
Lots of wonderful people.

Starfish wrote-(Yes , there is something being done about the dog and cat population.There is a clinic run out here at the Belize Diving every few months or so to have local animals fixed. It is adverise on this island a week before the vet is schdeule to come.)

That is good news. Beats wounding animals with a pellet rifle.
It doesn't take a genus to think of animal controls- the humane way. Maybe a law should be passed that disallows animals to run at large, maybe they should be kenneled till they are spayed, maybe a law passed disallowing animals to be brought to the island.
There are lawmakers on this island, isn't there?Put them to work and disband the vigilanty.

Sounds good but there ain't no moola. That's just reality. So then what?

Doogan, you are right that animal control ,the humane way is a good solution, but banning animals from the island is an unfair solution to those who care for their pets. Licensing, leash laws and rounding up the strays is the way it's done but the island has no animal officer, it barely has police presence(and they have had their problems too). So, extremists take things into their own hands, believing they are the self appointed, albeit misguided,, guardians of the island.He( G) will find that with the continued type of disposal practices his business will suffer. He is angering people who have the will and the courage to stand up to him. The old ways still exist along with the old mindset that animals are as disposable as getting rid of roaches.
Spaying one kitten or puppy once a month or so will take to the next century. The counsel can figure it out and implement a program if it wants to. You build a castle one stone at a time, tihs is no different. But the four legged strays aren't the only problem. The homeless, crack heads and theives are a serious problem. A person wacked out on drugs in the middle of Front St. becoming violent and punching signs over is a bigger nuisance than than a stray begging for food. Stealing from a woman who just lost her husband is dispicable. You know darn well it was one of their own that did this and they knew this woman's circumstances and it didn't matter. So , what's my point, don't sweat the small stuff, and the animals are small stuff. Take care of the humans first. They will destroy the island reputation faster. If the vigilantes want a cause, round up the undesirable two legged animals first.

So many positive replies.
Yes! I agree nothing is easy, but doing nothing at all does not solve any problem even in paradise. Sounds like the island has a council, poor as it is. There are solutions to every problem, I agree that the good people who look after their animals should not be punished.
Island has a big tourism and they have money. A landing fee of 50 cents to a dollar would be a start. Some one suggested a donation system at all the bars and resturants.)The problem may be thievery here(to purchase pellets for a rifle).

Anyway, there are solutions to problems putting your brains into a pellet rifle isn't one of them. (unless your driving away gutter rats).

For Goodness sake! this is the 21st century, deal with the issues on a intelligent humane level.

Doogan it sounds like your brains are up your ass.You have never been to caye caulker and we hope you never come. Get a life and don't worry about cc.

But reporter I love you, too.
I like to be kind to dumb animals.

Doogan they say people pick their animals that are just like them

Reporter, then I must presume your pet is a donkey. Sorry couldn't help myself. I hate bringing myself down to this level, but it was just too tempting. Senseless belittling doesn't get the problems solved. Just lack of maturity and intelligence shinig thru.

Isn't it amazing, the Reporter is also the village idiot. You don't often find that combination.

Suggestions are food for thought,and should be taken as such. Many suggestions some time lead to a solution.

But it only works for people who don't like to kill and have half a brain to think through a problem to a sensible solution. No sense Reporter applying, brains are aquired at birth, not handed out.

I agree and disagree with a lot said on this board. But first, the people who are shooting dogs for no