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#224100 - 12/21/06 07:47 PM Wining and losing.
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If you are the favorite and not wining then you are.....?
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#224102 - 12/21/06 07:54 PM Re: Wining and losing. [Re: Sir Isaac Newton]
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Okay, I'll bite -- the "overdog?"
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#224104 - 12/21/06 07:59 PM Re: Wining and losing. [Re: Otteralum]
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Losing, maybe? So why is it that the US is neither wining or losing the war in Iraq. Can someone explain it to me like a 6 year old. Are we in a tie or something? Is the War of Terror a tie?
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#224108 - 12/21/06 08:08 PM Re: Wining and losing. [Re: Sir Isaac Newton]
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SIN, I have a six-year-old and I would never want to burden his innocence with such rubbish.

Here's a version perhaps more suitable for a 12-year old.

Neither side reasonably has the expectation of completely defeating the other. Rather, each wants their political capital increased to the extent that they have considerable leverage in whatever reality exists in Iraq long-term. Thus, "winning" and "losing" will always be relative, in the same vein as "glass half empty" versus "glass half full."

The best scenario is that the U.S. completely leaves Iraq (victory for insurgents) and, at the same time, a coalition of powers presides over a relatively peaceful Iraqi populace (victory for the U.S.). In any case, victory is in the eye of the beholder.

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#224110 - 12/21/06 08:11 PM Re: Wining and losing. [Re: Otteralum]
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When was the last time the US fought in a foreign civil war?
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#224111 - 12/21/06 08:14 PM Re: Wining and losing. [Re: Sir Isaac Newton]
San Pedro Daily Offline
Viet Nam...
Before that, Korea...

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#224119 - 12/21/06 09:19 PM Re: Wining and losing. [Re: San Pedro Daily]
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Ummm, did you actually mean "winning" or "whining'?
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#224123 - 12/21/06 09:52 PM Re: Wining and losing. [Re: San Pedro Daily]
CatMo Offline
What's the difference to an expat in San Pedro?

Didn't you go there--at least partly--to escape all that sort of thing?
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#224130 - 12/21/06 10:25 PM Re: Wining and losing. [Re: CatMo]
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I am making the assumption that all of this wisdom is being shared on websites in the middle east also. We all have to be on the same page if we are going to work this out.
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#224131 - 12/21/06 10:27 PM Re: Wining and losing. [Re: Bobber]
Otteralum Offline
Damn right Bobber! You know Arabic? crazy
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