Oh Yuch....took the test...

You hit it Otter. Neither side gets what they want (no matter which is best for the country) but settle somewhere in between (again, no matter which is best). Neither side wants to be perceived as being a loser in any issue. If one side had a cure for the common cold, the other side would stifle it because it didn't come from them (altho in my opinion, the sides would not do it equally). I guess that is what you get when being a politician is a lifetime job, if you can just scam enough people or gain enough power. Heavy sigh.

It doesn't matter who you vote for, the government always win.

I can see why you feel that way colly, but I refuse to succumb to defeatism on this. Call me naive, but I have to believe there is always a chance to enact real change.

Ah but that is a big difference between you and me Otterlaum. Actually I have admired your posts and your site and we have some stuff in common. But I don't do democracy. I could get into a long dialogue about why, but it is not defeatist at all. I've been on too many committees, boards and done too much political stuff in my time to believe that the majority (which in my eyes equals mob rule) are capable of making sensible decisions on my behalf. Geez am I gonna get hammered for admitting this one.

That's okay. Thanks for the compliment.

I see democracy as a means to liberty. Unfortunately I think most see democracy as an ends to itself. This sucks because democracies can vote in Islamic law if they choose (and have).

We made huge mistakes by allowing the constitution to be violated in favor of being "enlightened" and "with the times." BS, it just puts more complexity and bureaucracy in democracy.

I would argue that it isn't democracy you loathe, but what it's been allowed to become.

You are probably corect.

yawn

it even breathes?

Is that elephant dung I smell, oh "Hi" Rykat happy, Sunday!