DG dont quite understand your meaning. Some folks try to get a bit involved with their community, some dont. Nationals and newcomers alike. Dosnt make anyone a better or a worse person. Or an arse. A loud voice can also be heard to make a change for the better. as well as a vote can change politics. But a person who is not open to others thoughts and the fact that they are the only right one hardly ever gets taken serious. I dont agree with alot of peoples ideals but if they are not immoral or illegal I respect them their opinions. Comes with age and maturity I guess.