Portofino Resort- Now with a new BEACH BAR!!
Topic Options
#244494 - 08/07/07 01:01 PM Biodiesel questions
Sir Isaac Newton Offline
BELTRAIDE is encouraging the production of biodiesel. We are going to try a small batch with some homemade equipment. Anyone out there experienced with biodiesel production? We got tons of fried foods here (as anywhere) and it's hot all the time.

Check out my site: www.ambergriscayerealestate.net

#244529 - 08/07/07 05:33 PM Re: Biodiesel questions [Re: Sir Isaac Newton]
dabunk Offline
But have you ever seen the resturaunts change their fry oil?

#244544 - 08/07/07 06:33 PM Re: Biodiesel questions [Re: dabunk]
elbert Offline
The term Bio-Diesel sounds like an oxymoron to me.
The Dive Shops Daily Blog

#244598 - 08/08/07 11:32 AM Re: Biodiesel questions [Re: elbert]
CindyF Offline
Back in 2004 my little ski town in western Colorado started experimenting with the use of bio-diesel for the town buses. The fuel was provided by Blue Sun Biodiesel, LLC (http://www.bluesunbiodiesel.com).

Here's an excerpt from a regional newspaper on the subject...

Buses back to regular diesel after bum biodiesel

CRESTED BUTTE - Everyone likes the idea of diluting regular diesel with a 20 percent component of plant-based biodiesel. It produces less pollution, improves gas mileage, and causes less wear on engines.

But the devil is in the details, as operators of bus fleets both in Crested Butte and the Roaring Fork Valley can testify.

For the second straight winter, Mountain Express buses are returning to full-strength petroleum-based diesel because of problems with biodiesel. The cause of the problem is unclear - perhaps the buses, the fuel blend, or even the 30-year-old storage tank being used to hold the biodiesel, Ron Clipala, a director of the bus service, told the Crested Butte News.

In Aspen, the biodiesel problem that plagued three buses was traced to a green, algae-like substance clogging the fuel tank. The problem had already been remedied by the fuel supplier, a firm from the Greeley area. The buses in the Roaring Fork fleet have been using a 5 percent portion of biodiesel for the last 13 months. To prevent this problem from recurring, all fuel will be treated with a "biocide."

Not sure if you'll find any of this helpful, just thought I'd share...Cindy

#244599 - 08/08/07 11:48 AM Re: Biodiesel questions [Re: CindyF]
SP Daily Offline
That algae problem exists with regular diesel also...especially in boats where the fuel sits for long periods. It's common practice to treat the fuel with biocides.

#244642 - 08/08/07 06:39 PM Re: Biodiesel questions [Re: SP Daily]
dabunk Offline
I ran a fleet of school buses for 20 some years. Algae is always a problem even on high use vehicles. There is always some moisture in the systems and it spreads from there. High quality fuels already have the proper additives, but if you buy the low grade or no name fuels watch out.

#244645 - 08/08/07 08:41 PM Re: Biodiesel questions [Re: dabunk]
SimonB Offline
Cpt. Shark's usually carries biocide for diesel.

#244663 - 08/09/07 09:46 AM Re: Biodiesel questions [Re: Sir Isaac Newton]
ChrisW Offline
I'm not convinced that you would have to "make" biodiesel in Belize. From what I've read, the one thing that keeps you from using veggie oil straight in you diesel engine is that it is thicker than regular diesel. This becomes a real problem when it is cold out. The possible solutions are to:

1. "make" biodiesel by dewaxing the vegetable oil (a chemical process that removes excess wax and thins the vegetable oil). Some people do this in their back yards.
2. "make" biodiesel by mixing the vegetable with regular diesel
3. "make" biodiesel by doing a combination of the first two
4. modify the vehicle to have two tanks, one for vegetable oil and one for regular diesel, use the regular diesel for starting the engine and then after everything heats up switch to the vegetable oil. Also may have to preheat the vegetable oil tank depending on the climate.

As you said it is hot in Belize, so I think it would be in the realm of possibility that you could just just filter the used vegetable oil and pour it in the tank as is. However, there is some controversy on the long term effects of wax on the engine. Half the people say you will shorten the life of the engine if you don't dewax the oil before using and half the people saying bull-hockey to that...

Also before trying this out on a engine, I would first try to find a success story on the web for that specific engine. As some engines seem to deal with the increased fuel viscosity better than others.

Edited by ChrisW (08/09/07 09:48 AM)

#244671 - 08/09/07 11:52 AM Re: Biodiesel questions [Re: ChrisW]
Sir Isaac Newton Offline
Biodiesel would be attractive the consumer base here as they wouldn't need to convert their vehicles or machinery. The glycerin byproduct (soap) of the biodiesel process could also be used in the handicraft market (pressed/carved into souveniers). Potentially the Town Council could make it mandatory to properly dispose of your waste cooking oil opposed to dumping it into the ground and become a potential health hazard.

Check out my site: www.ambergriscayerealestate.net


Click for excellent scuba lessons with Elbert Greer!

Things to do

Daily News
Daily Weather

Classified Ads
San Pedro Sun
Ambergris Today
SP Town Council
Channel 7
Channel 5
Love FM
The Reporter
Caye Caulker

TV Newscasts
Radio Stations

Click for our
Search thousands of Belizean-only websites

Event Guides
Event Calendar
Specials & Events
Things to Do
iTravel Belize
Paradise Theater

San Pedro Scoop!
Tia Chocolate
My Beautiful Belize
I-Travel Belize
Belize Adventure
Belize Hub
Romantic Travel
Bound for Belize
Conch Creative
As The Coconuts Drop
More Blogs...
Search thousands of Belizean-only websites
Chaa Creek is an award-winning luxury Belize Resort, rated as one of the worlds best Eco Lodges. We are a pioneer in adventure travel to Belize since 1981!
White Sands Dive Shop - 5 Star PADI Dive Facility - Daily diving, SCUBA instruction and Snorkeling
Caribbean Inspired All Natural Condiments & Spice Blends, Over 100 are Gluten Free!
We manage a variety of homes, apartments, condos and commercial properties here on Ambergris Caye. Our minimum lease on ALL properties is six months.
Conch Shell Inn: All rooms are right on the beach in the heart of San Pedro, so within walking distance to anything and everything!!
Lilí Alphonse has snorkel equipment to fit anyone as well as Marine Park Tickets and flotation devices to assist those not as experienced.
Coastal Xpress offers a daily scheduled ferry run to most resorts, restaurants and private piers on the island of Anbergris Caye. We also offer  private and charter water taxi service.
Mini Chat

Cayo Espanto
Click for Cayo Espanto, and have your own private island
More Links
Click for exciting and adventurous tours of Belize with Katie Valk!
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31
Who's Online
2 registered (Still a Bronco fan, 1 invisible), 22 Guests and 7 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Forum Stats
18,631 Registered Members
44 Forums
63,687 Topics
461,188 Posts

Most users ever online: 1,262 @ 06/10/07 02:16 PM

AmbergrisCaye.com CayeCaulker.org HELP! Visitor Center Goods & Services San Pedro Town
BelizeSearch.com Message Board Lodging Diving Fishing Things to Do History
BelizeNews.com Maps Phonebook Belize Business Directory
BelizeCards.com SanPedroDaily.com Picture of the Day

The opinions and views expressed on this board are the subjective opinions of Ambergris Caye Message Board members
and not of the Ambergris Caye Message Board its affiliates, or its employees.