Again, I can only speak to what I see, and I see many different kinds of birds, plenty of fish, iguanas around the lagoon just behind the project. I agree that dredging isn't a good thing. But, I don't see what bitching about the road hasto do with dredging. I guess I would like to see people take a proactive stand, rather than wasting time bashing something that has nothing to do with the issues. You wanted a good road, you now HAVE a good road, and you still complain. Go figure.

The problem from my perspective is - a road at what cost. I do not believe that repairing a road in front of a project that benifits the developer who has destroyed part of the marine ecosystem to manufacture land to build on justifies the project.
That is analogist to saying if a drug dealer donates to a drug rehab program he is exhonerated from the crime of drug dealing.
Reef Village aka Swamp Village is the perfect example of the kind of development at the expense of the enviornment that will, or maybe already has, change Ambergris Caye from a pristine island to an island where building and selling condos is more important than preserving what nature gave us. It is doubtful in my mind that just building on the land that existed on AC could be done and still not have a detremental effect on the enviornment let alone manufacturing more land to build on at the expense of the enviornment.

Ya know, I don't disagree with you, bywarren. But, what this is about, is the road. What is built, is built. Whatever you want to complain about concerning this project now is pretty much water under the bridge. I think you could better serve the area with thinking of ways to prevent environmental adversity again instead of whining about a road and ropes across the road. Just my thoughts, and I am finished with this for now.

I have been very quiet on this topic for a long time but those of you who have been around for awhile know that I fought like crazy to stop the destruction of the mangroves. I am the woman that Jeff Pierce refers to as “The Bitch” and asked my caretaker how he could stand to work for me.
If it had simply been mud off of the bottom of the lagoon that was dredged up I would not have said a thing. Moving mud from one place to another does not diminish the lagoon. TEARING OUT A QUARTER OF A MILE OF MANGROVES DOES!
S&S you and I can get along fine as neighbors but you must understand that all that life you are seeing in the lagoon is what I was seeing from my place. I miss my birds!
You challenged us to stop such things in the future – the problem is that the precedent has been set and Jeff Pierce is in the process of destroying another piece of our eco-system at a project I believe is called South Beach.
What I have been told is that no environmental impact study was done as Jeff did not apply for a permit to DREDGE; he got a permit to MINE.
Many things have gone on behind closed doors and I will not make any acquisitions I can’t substantiate but I’m sure it doesn’t take much imagination to figure things out.
I was told that right after the national election there were over 20 projects on the island shut down; Reef Village and South Park were among them. I’ve heard rumors about how another arm of the government stepped in and over road that action.
There are a lot of laws here in Belize, ropes across the road is one of them. Unfortunately few of the laws are enforced. Therefore we whine!

Scubaldy, I know and totally understand where you are coming from. The issues against this project have been beat until there is nothing left. The debate started again because the road wasn't what you all wanted. Now, it still isn't what you want. My question is why do you all continue to whine about a road, when the real problem is something totally different? I understand that you miss your birds. Is that the problem? Tearing out a quarter mile of mangroves is terrible, but it didn't really hurt the birds. I'm sure it has an impact, but I don't know exactly how, if wildlife is still abundant. But, it sounds like you are mad because you can't see the birds from your place anymore. Should I be angry because Bob is building condos in front of mine? No..I'm not angry. It's his property, and he can do what he wants. Your condo did not guarantee lagoon views. If you want lagoon views, you will have to buy property on the lagoon, and protect it's views. If it is something that you don't want, join together and be heard. Go to where the buck stops, and continue to do what you need to do to be heard. Whining about the road is pretty silly, since that isn't the issue you are really upset about.
What goes down between you and Jeff is your business, and I am not going to get involved in that.
Good luck. I wish this bitching could just stop. There is so much more to life than constant complaining.

Wow! This has 18 pgs. to it!... just an observation... I'll bow out now. :P

The only one that seems to be perpetuating the 'road / rope' thing is you, sunandsand.I got over it a week ago.

Excuse me? I couldn't care less about the road. I was just commenting on how many people seem to look for things to gripe about where this project is concerned. But, since you feel I'm the "perp", I will just leave it alone. My efforts were to get to what was really the problem. You may have gotten over it a week ago, but you opened that can of worms for others to start the campaign again. I guess some people, Belizeonthebeach, just want to complain. So, it's a free world....have at it!

TQ, I know, it's a little silly I think, to have so much on one project. But, to each his own, and it seems this is the one to harp on.
Hope to see you soon!!

I don't think it is silly to focus on this particular project because a couple more of them and San Pedro, as we know it is gone. The Gringo population can leave and find a new place to rape and destroy but we will have left an environmentally ruined island for generations of San Pedranos.