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#293610 - 08/17/08 12:41 PM Re: BDF & IMMIGRATION AT WORK [Re: KC Jayhawk]
pugwash Offline
Just because a response isn't required, that doesn't necessarily mean one will not be forthcoming smile
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#293611 - 08/17/08 12:41 PM Re: BDF & IMMIGRATION AT WORK [Re: KC Jayhawk]
iluvbelize Offline
LOL KC! Leah Ann stated that her response was not required and I agreed with her. And she responded (of course)! You guys crack me up!

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#293612 - 08/17/08 12:47 PM Re: BDF & IMMIGRATION AT WORK [Re: iluvbelize]
KC Jayhawk Offline
I don't see a response from LA, but, in any case, Pug is correct . . . opinions here are worth what you pay for them!!
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#293645 - 08/17/08 05:36 PM Re: BDF & IMMIGRATION AT WORK [Re: KC Jayhawk]
LaurieMar Offline
KC, my opinions here are free, unless I am on the clock. LOL. Then, there are those things called billable hours...

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#293666 - 08/17/08 07:33 PM Re: BDF & IMMIGRATION AT WORK [Re: LaurieMar]
KC Jayhawk Offline
And a bargain they are, Laurie, at half the price!! grin
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#293699 - 08/18/08 03:59 AM Re: BDF & IMMIGRATION AT WORK [Re: pugwash]
Bill Thornton Offline
Originally Posted By: pugwash
Call me naive
Your naive.

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#293700 - 08/18/08 04:00 AM Re: BDF & IMMIGRATION AT WORK [Re: KC Jayhawk]
Bill Thornton Offline
Originally Posted By: KC Jayhawk
Pug is correct
...but naive.

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#293711 - 08/18/08 06:54 AM Re: BDF & IMMIGRATION AT WORK [Re: pugwash]
Leah-Ann Offline
given my unfirm grasp of things, perhaps I can learn a few things here wink
Originally Posted By: pugwash
Call me naive, but I can't help but wonder what is actually wrong with adhearing to the law, whatever country you may be in?

Nothing at all in my opinion.
Originally Posted By: Leah-Ann
A simple and very straight-forward question was asked: if all the illegal construction workers are rounded up, who is going to do the work? and at what price? How one extrapolates from that support of illegal activity and sub-standard wages and housing is beyond me.
Originally Posted By: Leah-Ann
I am not proposing at all that the solution is to permit the undocumented to come and go as they please.
What do you think is actually wrong with adhearing to the law in the country to which you immigrated?
Originally Posted By: pugwash
I will continue to cary a gun, smoke pot when I feel inclined too, ...
Or is there a list of laws that don't really count?

Originally Posted By: pugwash
If lettuce were to cost $4 and a tomato $3 but the counterbalance was no funding of schools or free emergency medical care for those here illegally that has to be amortized amongst the paying consumers, perhaps I would be able to afford medical insurance for myself at that oh so inconvenient stage of my life in between retirement and Medicare!
I think that raises some valid points. The studies seem to be all over the place in terms of pure economic costs/benefits resulting from the presence of undocumented workers. This seems to present a pretty balanced discussion of some of the differing views. http://blog.lib.umn.edu/ihrc/immigration/2007/10/putting_the_cost_of_illegal_im.html

Will deporting all undocumented immigrants be all that is necessary to raise wages sufficently enough to ensure that the legal workers taking the jobs are not just as dependent on public assistance as those they replace? I don't understand how that will be without a dramatic impact on the economy in terms of escalation prices on everything. I don't know the answer, and again I'm not saying permitting illegal immigration is it. I'd be interested in hearing from those in the know.

Oh, and is a heart transplant actually a viable option? wink
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#293724 - 08/18/08 08:12 AM Re: BDF & IMMIGRATION AT WORK [Re: Leah-Ann]
bywarren Offline
Is Belize considering these to be illegal immigrants and deporting them? Or are they considered illegal workers because they have not paid for a work permit?
If the later is the case, having more people without incomes on the island does not seem like a way to prevent crime.

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#293725 - 08/18/08 08:17 AM Re: BDF & IMMIGRATION AT WORK [Re: bywarren]
Leah-Ann Offline
that's a good point, bywarren. And what are they doing with the illegal expats that own businesses that have been picked up? Are the businesses being shut down at a cost of jobs for some Belizeans?
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