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#294657 - 08/25/08 08:45 PM Re: Work Permits [Re: bywarren]
iluvbelize Offline
Originally Posted By: bywarren
You are making this far more complicated than need be. If a person is in Belize and conducts business by computer, telephone or any other means that does not either involve products or services originating in Belize or bringing products or services into Belize, they are not subject to needing any permits from Belize.
Example: if an executive of a US company vacations in Belize and telephones or communicates via computer concerning his business, he certainly does not need a work permit.
The determining factor is where the commerce takes place, not where the individual is located.


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#294702 - 08/26/08 03:18 AM Re: Work Permits [Re: bywarren]
deadserious Offline
Originally Posted By: bywarren
Also Pedro, I find it interesting how much "volunteer" work is provided by people coming and doing it on AC as compared to other more deprived areas in Belize.


If I volunteer often, but only when it is of least inconvienence. Does that make the action any more or less noble than if I only volunteered once but had to give up much to do it?
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#294703 - 08/26/08 03:20 AM Re: Work Permits [Re: Pedro1]
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Originally Posted By: Pedro1
so if you make and sell a hamburger -is that legal or illegal?


Can God create a hamburger so big that even he can't sell it to an American?
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#294704 - 08/26/08 03:28 AM Re: Work Permits [Re: AdvantageRealty]
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Originally Posted By: AdvantageRealty
If you can go to jail (and be deported in 24 hours) if caught working (or making income) in Belize while here on a tourist visa (or extended tourist visas) it is bit more than operating int "spirit of the law". It is a just illegal as using drugs in your own home or driving while intoxicated.


Rosa Parks could go to jail for sitting in the front of the bus. Doesn't mean that she didn't do the right thing and it doesn't equate her actions to those of driving while intoxicated. Civil disobedience is a bedrock of a free society. It's about doing what is right over what is legal. Yes, if you are caught (and prosecuted) you must pay the consequences... but there is an ethical consideration to every legal decision.

Just because there is a law saying you shouldn't do something, that doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. And just because there is a law saying that you should do something, that doesn't mean you should. Laws are made by fallible humans and while they are often made with the best intentions, they tend to have unintended consequences.

I'm all for working to change a bad law, but your black-and-white, law-is-god perspective is a very dangerous one. Everything must be viewed through pragmatic glasses for the most ethical outcome.

It is very healthy to question authority and is in fact the only way toward a better society.
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#294719 - 08/26/08 10:10 AM Re: Work Permits [Re: deadserious]
elbert Offline
Wow Deadserious, I like your attitude.
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#294721 - 08/26/08 10:15 AM Re: Work Permits [Re: elbert]
Ernie B Offline
ME TOO !
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#294730 - 08/26/08 10:42 AM Re: Work Permits [Re: Ernie B]
SnoopysMom Offline
Ditto
The fact is, it's just not that "black and white"....

And I might add that paying to volunteer is pretty nutty. Is picking up trash on the beach considered volunteering? How about helping out at a Saga fundraiser? School fundrasier? Opps!

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#294743 - 08/26/08 11:05 AM Re: Work Permits [Re: SnoopysMom]
Amanda Syme Offline
No, picking up the trash is probably not considered volunteering but rather a bit of civic pride.

But volunteering in a school, the library, the post office, a bar, restaurant, hotel etc would be like taking somebody else's paid position.

A Saga fundraiser is volunteering for a not for profit organization. Although many businesses around here appear to be not for profit too!! Chances are volunteering for one off events probably just require a permit.

Such as when the volunteer doctors and vets come down to visit and offer their services.

Permits don't necessarily cost money but they should be applied for when applicable.

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#294744 - 08/26/08 11:06 AM Re: Work Permits [Re: deadserious]
Amanda Syme Offline
Originally Posted By: deadserious
Originally Posted By: Pedro1
so if you make and sell a hamburger -is that legal or illegal?


Can God create a hamburger so big that even he can't sell it to an American?


I saw a burger on tv that sells for $5,000 US. And they will even throw in a 2nd burger for free if you have a friend!

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#294943 - 08/27/08 12:02 PM Re: Work Permits [Re: Amanda Syme]
AdvantageRealty Offline
I'm sure Rosa Parks would be proud of you DS, you rebel you. A march and speech on Belmopan would probably make a more powerful statement than typing away at home, if your intent is to change the law. I do think the US civil rights movement is a bit different than foreigners breaking the laws of Belize. If it makes you feel better, I guess it makes sense.

But I do agree with you to an extent, as do the hundreds of thousands of Mexicans that illegally cross the US Border every year, breaking US law for very their own very good reasons.

No matter how you paint it or how hard one rationalizes in their own mind (even equating oneself to Rosa Parks), telecommuting in Belize without the proper paperwork is illegal.

While you're in Belmopan please ask them to legalize marijuana, for medicinal reasons only of course.

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