Yes, if you are actively subverting your missions.

Well, you almost have it right. As an Austrian (in economics and not nationality), I know that the free market solves almost everything. What isn't solved by the free market is solved by other means, but going to war against one's own country is not the answer, unless it is time to overthrow the government. But then it is the people rising up against the established leaders and not a mass of citizens against other mass of citizens.

The north vs south war was not about slavery so much as it was about states rights. If the country wanted to abolish slavery, there was a prescribed way to do so and if done within that medium, the war would not have been necessary.

But as it is, Lincoln is responsible for the first big federal power shift and as such is responsible in part for many of the problems we have today.

you might want to read my edit before agreeing.

posted accidentally before finished.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8zXi90EVeg

'Back up to you, Kieth, by the way got an extra set of balls up there'?

agreed anyway
Ill get to you soon, LA!
Just a side not when Gingrich asked the question at the end, you did NOT see the response from the reporter they cut away too soon for you to hear, "I'm gonna leave it there I'm not gonna argue the case". selective edit? of course.

Not judging anyone leah if you notice in my post I praise any woman willing to raise the child and carry them to term

I just feel this attitude some have that the woman MUST carry the child of a rapist to term is ludacrist. But again I praise any woman who does that. They are far better people then I.

DD

I couldn't have stated more clearly, and then re stated in Bold large font that

McCain's judgment should be considered based on those he personally associates with,

referring to 1989 when McCain was cleared of charges that he acted improperly, but was criticized for having shown “poor judgment”...I don't need to post a link, it's from the link you posted!

To state that Keating was found guilty and Ayers wasn't may be technically correct but its also intellectually dishonest and you know it! Ayers admitted complicity in the bombings, stated he wished they had done more, and in New York Times interview dated 9/11/2001 didn't rule out further actions?

He and Dorn were fugitives for several years before charges were dropped for Prosecutorial Misconduct under COINTELPRO , which had little to do directly with their case, but rather overall federal information gathering techniques (we weren't being fair to the terrorists!) and he has never show any contrition for the deaths he is responsible for, or for the Terrorist Acts he committed on American soil.

Obama may have been 8 when the bombings occurred but he was in his 30's when he visited Ayers home to raise funds for his own political career, and in his 40's when they last worked together.

By the way Tony Resko was prosecuted, and convicted as a felon just this year, but I'm sure that's not as important in your mind as Todd Palins 1986 DUI is it?

Your first few posts brought a new voice to this forum, and I was interested to see another perspective: now sadly they have deteriorated into gainsaying anything someone you disagree with may state.

I appreciate that this may be a great outlet for you in your current environment, and wonder if you may wish to share some original thoughts or observations with us, be they pro or anti current policy, or do you prefer to just let someone else make a comment so you can repudiate it?

Thanks. But calling the president imcompetent is not subverting my mission despite what you think. But I appreciate your candor. Must be a military man.

Austrian who feels I should be shot now blaming one of the great president for todays trouble AND defending slavery...Bold I will say that.

Some times you have to do ugly things to defeat evil. You should knwo this better then most since my country had to defeat your countryman who once tried to takeover the world.

Maybe theoritically what you say is true. But slavery is evil and you cant wait for the free market to resolve that. Plus it was the South who attacked us first.

And one more thing you mention the war was a bout state right yes to a point. I find it hard to belive if the state right Lincoln wantyed to abolish was getting rid of Blue Laws so we can drink on Sunday that the south would have attacked us.

The main state right they wanted was slavery. Which is evil. Which had to go.

It seems to me that you're making a direct comparison to an indirect one. McCain was directly involved in the Keating 5. Does this also mean that Palin is calling for the succession of Alaska because her husband was a party member of a group that did?
Also, there were no favors granted by or through Resko as Obama paid market value for the house and did not get one of those sweetheart loans that many Replicans seem to fall into.