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#354308 - 10/11/09 03:23 PM Exclusive Ways
Hon Offline
Exclusive Ways
23A Fire Coral Street,
San Pedro,
Ambergris Caye,
Belize

Exclusive Ways (with offices also in Miami) is supposedly running a SkyService charter flight direct from Toronto to BZE on Wednesdays starting December 16th.

I can't find any information about them on the web except for what is posted on their very basic website and SkyService can't verify anything other than they have this flight on their schedule.

Does anyone know anything about this company? Are they reliable? I have had charter flights canceled within a week of the scheduled departure date with major tour companies so I think I'm justifiably leery about booking with an unknown entity.
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#354321 - 10/11/09 04:30 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Hon]
Moose In Belize Offline
This would be great news if it pans out.
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#354459 - 10/13/09 10:54 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Hon]
Paperboy Offline
SkyService is a charter airline operating out of Toronto. They're used by alot of the tour operators servicing the caribean. I've flown with them a number of times to Cuba, and have experienced no problems other than weather delays.
I'd have to say I've had fewer problems with them than Air Canada
All in all I guess they are as good as any other charter carrier.

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#354461 - 10/13/09 11:04 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Paperboy]
Hon Offline
Paperboy, I think you've misunderstood my question.

I have flown SkyService at least a dozen times and I agree with you, they are a decent charter airline. My concern is with Exclusive Ways, the tour operator which has theoretically chartered SkyService. Do you know anything about them?
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#354465 - 10/13/09 12:10 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Hon]
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Have you tried calling the US number on their website to see who is operating this in Belize. The website is obviously still being setup and Fire Coral Street is a residential area so I suspect this is someone starting up something from home at this point.
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#354469 - 10/13/09 12:24 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: HOT_Card]
seashell Offline
A bit dodgy, then innit?
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#354478 - 10/13/09 01:03 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: seashell]
Hon Offline
My feeling exactly SS. ...and HOT Card, although I could call them directly I would prefer to get verification from a third party. After all, what would they say except 'Yes, we are totally legitimate and completely trustworthy'?
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#354490 - 10/13/09 03:04 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Hon]
Paperboy Offline
Hon,
Sorry, I did misunderstand. Unfortunately I can't help with Exclusive Ways. I don't know anything about them.

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#354494 - 10/13/09 03:57 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Paperboy]
Gridguy Offline
Hope it works, A direct flight from Toronto must be great for you.

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#354497 - 10/13/09 04:06 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Gridguy]
seashell Offline
Especially at 2 for one. If it is a company that one can rely on, then Hon + one, can take two trips!!

Don't know if there is any price benefit in it for me to go all the way to TO and then down. Certainly, there's no time benefit.
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#354498 - 10/13/09 04:09 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Gridguy]
Moose In Belize Offline
I sent the following inquiry to Excclusive Ways through their website:

The link on your website seems to be broken. When will information and pricing be available for these charter flights? Thanks

and received the following reply on October 12th:

Good Morning

Reservations begin today.

I checked with my IT department who have been working on the web site!

Email me here with your requirements in the meantime please?

Best wishes

Martyn Thomas
Exclusive Ways


Does the name Martyn Thomas mean anything to anybody?
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#354511 - 10/13/09 06:00 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Moose In Belize]
seashell Offline
Have you done a search on the name "Martyn Thomas"? smile
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#354525 - 10/13/09 07:51 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: seashell]
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#354536 - 10/13/09 11:54 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: SimonB]
Paperboy Offline
SimonB,
I think you`ve figured it out.
PB

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#354543 - 10/14/09 02:25 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Paperboy]
seashell Offline
Maybe yes, maybe no. What is "Latin American Airlines" and where do they fly and for how long have they been flying and what craft do they have in their fleet.
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#354544 - 10/14/09 07:39 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: seashell]
TravelinMan1 Online   content
He looks like the guy who used to manage the Royal Palms.

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#354548 - 10/14/09 09:00 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: TravelinMan1]
Amanda Syme Offline
that is the guy who used to manage the royal palms hoa.

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#354553 - 10/14/09 09:33 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Amanda Syme]
SimonB Offline
Uh, seashell, the first line of the resume says "President at Exclusive Ways Inc." So I'm thinking maybe yes.

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#354561 - 10/14/09 10:22 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: SimonB]
seashell Offline
Yes, Simon, I saw that, but in the second line it says that he is President of Latin American Airlines. So I was wondering . . . who is Latin American Airlines, etc.
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#354573 - 10/14/09 11:03 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: seashell]
JZB Offline
I emailed Exclusive Ways and was told that Yessenia Salazar is his business partner. (her father is Orlando who drives a taxi) Does anyone have the scoop on her that can PM me?

I have a group of friends that would like to come down in January and I would like the skinny on this operation before mentioning it to them! THANKS!

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#354581 - 10/14/09 12:11 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: JZB]
Hon Offline
This is who Latin American Airways says they are... http://www.latinamericanairlines.com/bpx.htm

Despite a very pretty picture of a plane with Latin American Airlines painted on it, they have no planes. Neither have they flown single charter to Belize or elsewhere although they claim to have started flights in April 2009.

SkyService customer service agents still have no contact information to book these flights.

This seemed off to me from the get go and now is looking quite odd. Although I wish any new business well, especially one offering direct flights from Toronto, I'm not willing to book with them on a wing (I know, I know) and a prayer, hoping they work it all out before January.
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#354608 - 10/14/09 08:54 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Hon]
klcman Offline
Hon - setting the inaugural 2-for-1 teaser aside, do you really find the fares that much of a deal? I played around on the site and didn't see any HOLY MOLY - I gotta book thos NOW pricing.

Like you, not wishing ill results upon any new venture, methinks this one put the site up "on a wing and a prayer", over-estimating the market.

PS: Told you the other day where to go for more info.......
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#354618 - 10/14/09 10:26 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Hon]
samba para ti Offline
This is a no-brainer! Checked out the link. Read through the lines. All it is full of is ...plans, proposals,outlines, objectives,iniatives, stategies etc. It's a scam!!...simple as that. They have not got any planes....they have not secured any seed money, and they sure as hell won't be flying from Toronto to Belize. 2 words people: STAY AWAY!!

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#354619 - 10/14/09 10:30 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: samba para ti]
Ernie B Offline
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#354636 - 10/15/09 09:13 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: klcman]
Hon Offline
No klcman, I wasn't blown away by the pricing but the 2 for 1 deal when booking in October was interesting when coupled with the direct flight option.

Originally Posted By: klcman
PS: Told you the other day where to go for more info.......


If I recall correctly, you've told me where to go several times in the past too smile

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#355998 - 10/26/09 11:18 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: JZB]
World Wanderer Offline
Exclusive Ways contract with Skyservice became effective today.

Flights commence 16 Dec 09.

www.exclusiveways.com

Latin American Airlines is reserved for routes that do not include Belize.

BTB has their information.


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#356014 - 10/27/09 11:14 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: World Wanderer]
Amanda Syme Offline
That's it for the free advertising - please don't continue posting your ads or they will be removed. Thank you.

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#356027 - 10/27/09 02:26 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Amanda Syme]
Moose In Belize Offline
I don't disagree with your ruling Amanda, but I hope you don't interfere with discussion about these flights, pro or con.
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#356030 - 10/27/09 03:05 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Moose In Belize]
klcman Offline
Why not move it to "classifieds" where very few people see it anyway?
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#356033 - 10/27/09 03:31 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Moose In Belize]
Amanda Syme Offline
Originally Posted By: Moose In Belize
I don't disagree with your ruling Amanda, but I hope you don't interfere with discussion about these flights, pro or con.


huh? did you see me do anything except ask somebody who is very obviously touting his own business on this forum to cease. I in no way interfered in any discussion about flights pros or cons.

The owner of the company in question has been a friend of mine for over 30 years.

I get accused of a heck of a lot of things I didn't do and sometimes it gets so tiresome.

We all sit here trying to help and keep the crap and fighting to a minimum - and then we get warned not to do things we weren't even thinking about doing. Sheesh.


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#356034 - 10/27/09 03:37 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Amanda Syme]
beachbumin Offline
Just to be clear, there is a Specials section and a classified section on the message board. Is it ok for businesses like Exclusive Ways to post their special there?

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#356035 - 10/27/09 03:47 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: beachbumin]
Amanda Syme Offline
The classifieds section is for individuals to peddle their wares - you know, a crib, a guitar, maybe a private home rental. All businesses should buy ad space on the site.

Specials are published by emailing the webmaster. Specials are typically defined by being items that are being offered for a price that is less than the price they are normally offered for. Maybe a hotel room that is usually $300 per night that is on offer for $150 per night for the month of november.


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#356036 - 10/27/09 03:51 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Amanda Syme]
Loansum-Al K Offline
Originally Posted By: Amanda Syme
Originally Posted By: Moose In Belize
I don't disagree with your ruling Amanda, but I hope you don't interfere with discussion about these flights, pro or con.


huh? did you see me do anything except ask somebody who is very obviously touting his own business on this forum to cease. I in no way interfered in any discussion about flights pros or cons.

The owner of the company in question has been a friend of mine for over 30 years.

I get accused of a heck of a lot of things I didn't do and sometimes it gets so tiresome.

We all sit here trying to help and keep the crap and fighting to a minimum - and then we get warned not to do things we weren't even thinking about doing. Sheesh.


Amanda, sounds like you're ready to join jesse and become a retiree grin
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#356037 - 10/27/09 03:53 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Amanda Syme]
Moose In Belize Offline
Originally Posted By: Amanda Syme
Originally Posted By: Moose In Belize
I don't disagree with your ruling Amanda, but I hope you don't interfere with discussion about these flights, pro or con.


We all sit here trying to help and keep the crap and fighting to a minimum - and then we get warned not to do things we weren't even thinking about doing. Sheesh.


Amanda, perhaps you misunderstood my comment. I'm not sure whom you feel is advertising. I can only assume that it's world wanderer. Perhaps you know his/her true identity. I don't. And if world wanderer is promoting these flights, I question why he would post the following in the Travel section.

Originally Posted By: World Wanderer
I heard there are direct flights from Toronto to Belize commencing December. Anyone know of them?


This board is full of information threads about deals on flights to BZE that never get treated as free advertising. Hon started this thread and she was not advertising anything. There were subsequent posts that questioned the website offering these flights from Toronto. You claim to have known the business owner for over 30 years so perhaps you have something useful to add to the discussion. My only concern was that world wanderer might submit a post to support these flights and you would consider it to be advertising and remove it. That's all. Forgive me if I stepped on your toes.
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#356041 - 10/27/09 04:21 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Moose In Belize]
Amanda Syme Offline
smirk

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#356042 - 10/27/09 04:30 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Amanda Syme]
Loansum-Al K Offline
Cat got your tongue shocked
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#356045 - 10/27/09 04:57 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Loansum-Al K]
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Well said Moose!
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#356056 - 10/27/09 06:06 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Three_Palms]
Amanda Syme Offline
crazy

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#361680 - 12/16/09 09:01 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Amanda Syme]
Moose In Belize Offline
The Exclusive Ways website is now reporting that direct flights between Toronto and Belize are cancelled. frown
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#361698 - 12/16/09 11:06 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: seashell]
captjeff Offline
Buyer ,beware ,Buyer beware .I got a bad feelings about unknown tour operators ...This is the time OF THE YEAR the scamers come out and offer deals on charter flights ..if the deal is too good then it needs lots of looking into .If there office is in belize even more so ..And never but never pay any travel without using your credit card ...NEVER !!!!!!! evry body loves a deal BUT SOME TIMES THE JUICE IS NOT WORTH THE SQUEEZE ????I did hear a rumor that a guy who was here He left 5 years ago was back trying to set up charters from canada but if it is the same guy i will not say his name unless you give it to me ,if it is him then i think the police where looking for him from a condo manangement problem from years back .GOOD LUCK
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#361702 - 12/16/09 11:12 AM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: captjeff]
elbert Offline
Its the same all over , I'm reading about hotels on the island I've never heard of and can't find, but they sure look good on the net and are cheap.
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#361720 - 12/16/09 01:36 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: elbert]
captjeff Offline
I just found out from a pm it is the same scam /con man back at doing what he does best,trying screw people out of money .I thought he was wanted here??????????? for the condo hoa stuff ?? wonder if he is still on the island??? or is he on the run again???you could write a book about this place..It would be A best seller lol. lol .lol .


Edited by captjeff (12/16/09 02:01 PM)
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#362037 - 12/18/09 05:55 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: captjeff]
Artorious Offline
Originally Posted By: captjeff
Buyer ,beware ,Buyer beware .I got a bad feelings about unknown tour operators ...This is the time OF THE YEAR the scamers come out and offer deals on charter flights ..if the deal is too good then it needs lots of looking into .If there office is in belize even more so ..And never but never pay any travel without using your credit card ...NEVER !!!!!!! evry body loves a deal BUT SOME TIMES THE JUICE IS NOT WORTH THE SQUEEZE ????I did hear a rumor that a guy who was here He left 5 years ago was back trying to set up charters from canada but if it is the same guy i will not say his name unless you give it to me ,if it is him then i think the police where looking for him from a condo manangement problem from years back .GOOD LUCK


Question to the Administrative Censorship:

This quote serves as no 'fair warning' to the readers. Question: At what time of year are the scammers not out? Does it inform the reader or generalize in fear mongering.

Issue:

If its not that, the ideals of Accountability and Responsibility are subverted out of fear for Monitory Liability. Its the loss of dignity, and sense of high respect to our social environment(be it web or commerce). In one word: Honor(less).

Fine Print: Not to be misconstrued as a slight to the quoted author, more a question to the social public.



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#362231 - 12/20/09 09:10 PM Re: Exclusive Ways [Re: Artorious]
Ambergris Bob Offline
Originally Posted By: Artorious
Originally Posted By: captjeff
Buyer ,beware ,Buyer beware .I got a bad feelings about unknown tour operators ...This is the time OF THE YEAR the scamers come out and offer deals on charter flights ..if the deal is too good then it needs lots of looking into .If there office is in belize even more so ..And never but never pay any travel without using your credit card ...NEVER !!!!!!! evry body loves a deal BUT SOME TIMES THE JUICE IS NOT WORTH THE SQUEEZE ????I did hear a rumor that a guy who was here He left 5 years ago was back trying to set up charters from canada but if it is the same guy i will not say his name unless you give it to me ,if it is him then i think the police where looking for him from a condo manangement problem from years back .GOOD LUCK


Question to the Administrative Censorship:

This quote serves as no 'fair warning' to the readers. Question: At what time of year are the scammers not out? Does it inform the reader or generalize in fear mongering.

Issue:

If its not that, the ideals of Accountability and Responsibility are subverted out of fear for Monitory Liability. Its the loss of dignity, and sense of high respect to our social environment(be it web or commerce). In one word: Honor(less).

Fine Print: Not to be misconstrued as a slight to the quoted author, more a question to the social public.



I'm sorry, what did you say???

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