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#367641 - 02/14/10 01:02 AM Re: Canadian cheddar cheese [Re: Peter Jones]
Gaz Cooper Offline
Originally Posted By: Peter Jones
Thanks for all the info. A point on terminology. I'm never quite sure what Americans, and it seems Canadians, mean when they say a cheese is "sharp". It's not a term used in Britain and in its ordinary (British) meaning isn't a word I'd use to describe a good cheddar. "Strong", "fruity", "nutty", "smooth" are words we would use. "Sharp" in its normal British meaning would describe a cheddar that was salty & harsh, not at all a good cheese.



Hmmmm SHARP at least in the part of the UK i come from is definatley a term used when describing cheese. I used to work in my uncles butchers shop as a kid and he sold lots of cheeses and we would always get customers asking for Sharp cheddar cheese.

Also my dad used to ask my mon to make sure she only got sharp cheddar as that was the one he liked best.

I too love a good Sharp cheddar or old Amsterdam if it removes the skin from the top of your mouth you know you have a great sharp cheese.

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#367642 - 02/14/10 01:46 AM Re: Canadian cheddar cheese [Re: Gaz Cooper]
Keller Offline
IMO, For a good Canadian cheddar cheese I don't worry too much about the "Best Before" date. A Five year old cheddar normally isn't much different than a Six year old block.:) Cheese from a bigger block will often have different flavors throughout the block as whey will leave from the outer parts of the block during the pressing period and more moisture will stay in the middle.A normal block of cheese is 640 lbs now. Cheddaring is still done but happening less and less all the time in cheese processing plants.Companies are now adopting other quicker,less costly ways to bring cheddar to your grocer, and of course a "brand name" might have many suppliers. Every Canadian processing plant has a 4 digit number that identifies them. You should be able to find it on the label.

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#367644 - 02/14/10 02:11 AM Re: Canadian cheddar cheese [Re: Keller]
Keller Offline
Eastern canadians prefer white cheddar..western canadians prefer colored cheddar. There is only one significant difference in the way the two are made. Can you guess what it is? wink

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#367697 - 02/14/10 05:56 PM Re: Canadian cheddar cheese [Re: Keller]
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Food coloring additive
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#367700 - 02/14/10 06:23 PM Re: Canadian cheddar cheese [Re: seashell]
Keller Offline
yep...and marbled cheddar is just white and colored cheddar mixed together after cheddaring.

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#367927 - 02/17/10 05:56 PM Re: Canadian cheddar cheese [Re: SimonB]
chris45 Offline
I suspect the problem may lie in the way the cheese gets here.
Dutch Edam is easily available in Belize (at least on the mainland). however it tastes NOTHING like edam as purchased in UK. The packaging looks to me to be the same, and we are talking whole cheeses here ready wrapped, but the consistency of the cheese itself is different. The waxy feel typical of Edam is gone
i suspect the cheese gets frozen somewhere along the line. If you bring cheese out from the UK it sweats and the flavour is gone, so they must at least cool it. My guess is they freeze it.
I agree with Peter's remarks about Canadian cheddar ( and indeed with retrospect his comments about EC).
But then even Parmesan (not the muck in a plastic jar) is not the same. As an exiled Brit. decent cheese is my number 2 regretted food loss on leaving England. We used to buy Parmesan cut from whole round cheeses piled in the gutter in Ventemiglia when I was a kid.EC rules probably don't allow that anymore, but it WAS real Parmesan.
Still there are plenty of compensations here so I'm absolutely not regretting our move here 5 years ago.

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#367931 - 02/17/10 07:44 PM Re: Canadian cheddar cheese [Re: chris45]
Gaz Cooper Offline
Originally Posted By: chris45
I suspect the problem may lie in the way the cheese gets here.
Dutch Edam is easily available in Belize (at least on the mainland). however it tastes NOTHING like edam as purchased in UK. The packaging looks to me to be the same, and we are talking whole cheeses here ready wrapped, but the consistency of the cheese itself is different. The waxy feel typical of Edam is gone
i suspect the cheese gets frozen somewhere along the line. If you bring cheese out from the UK it sweats and the flavour is gone, so they must at least cool it. My guess is they freeze it.
I agree with Peter's remarks about Canadian cheddar ( and indeed with retrospect his comments about EC).
But then even Parmesan (not the muck in a plastic jar) is not the same. As an exiled Brit. decent cheese is my number 2 regretted food loss on leaving England. We used to buy Parmesan cut from whole round cheeses piled in the gutter in Ventemiglia when I was a kid.EC rules probably don't allow that anymore, but it WAS real Parmesan.
Still there are plenty of compensations here so I'm absolutely not regretting our move here 5 years ago.


Your right the taste is completey different to Edam from Holland although if I bought a whole Edam it tastes similar however they cut Edam into pieces and you can buy a piece, this stuff is very strong and i think because it is sweating in the local heat I personally liked it but you can clearly see it is sweating.

I have seen edam frozen and it becomes crumbly and after thawing its never the same. Cheeses should be shipped cooled not frozen

When ever I really need a good cheese fix I head to wine devine and treat myself although some cheeses you need a bank loan to purchase.

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#368066 - 02/19/10 09:45 AM Re: Canadian cheddar cheese [Re: Gaz Cooper]
Diane Campbell Offline
Good cheese is "to die for" - and in excess, to die from (cholesterol?).
Say a silent thanks for it's badness here and munch on some fresh fruit.
:-)

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#368068 - 02/19/10 10:00 AM Re: Canadian cheddar cheese [Re: Diane Campbell]
Peter Jones Offline
Spot on Diane. That's why I like really good and strong cheese - I eat less of it.

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