#392080 - 11/06/10 03:38 PM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
[Re: Marty]
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They are also claiming over a million hits a day.
hardy har har
when they count a million hits, they are MAYBE counting in all the images also. load a page. the page is one hit. each image on the page is a hit. load one page, with 20 pics, get 21 hits or its just total BS Alexa is the neilsen rating service for the net. the best one anyway looking them up there, i see: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/http%3A%2F%2Fambergristoday.com number 3,000,000_+ san pedro sun http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/http%3A%2F%2Fsanpedrosun.com number 1,400,000 the Sun is twice as busy more or less. thats a ranking, not a total visitors thing. but there is a traffic tab button on the stat page for each domain, but you have to be at a certainlevel of traffic before they keep track.
AmbergrisCaye.com gets like 10-15,000 unique hosts, users, (if they come on twice in a day the other times are not in this number) per day.
we are rated like #133,000 in alexa: http://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/http%3A%2F%2Fambergriscaye.com , as the busiest and most visited website on Belize. so no WAY the Ambergris Today is getting a million unique VISITORS per day.
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#392083 - 11/06/10 04:10 PM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
[Re: Marty]
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#392090 - 11/06/10 06:21 PM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
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If I were them I would ask anyone who post my news have to put hyperlink or where is reference instead stop people sharing news. They should realize if more people forward news from their web site, they will gain more rate from alexa, isn't?
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#392103 - 11/06/10 07:36 PM
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[Re: Marty]
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Thats what I've been doing at San Pedro Daily except now I must eliminate the text.
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#392107 - 11/06/10 08:19 PM
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[Re: Marty]
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Thats how San Pedro Daily is rated..and has a much higher count that Ambergris Today....
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#392108 - 11/06/10 09:25 PM
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[Re: Marty]
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Love Dorian, Love the paper. My question is... how the paper can realistically keep the same income from advertisements and classifieds online? Wasnt that their selling point?(a weekly paper everyone on the island reads) Now there will be one print paper. Online? how many blogs and message boards now? and stopping Marty from reporting? I just dont get it
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#392110 - 11/06/10 09:55 PM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
[Re: Marty]
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Seems like a death knell to me.
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#392111 - 11/06/10 09:55 PM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
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Personally, I think something vital in the experience of "reading the news" is lost when the printed paper goes by the wayside. Mind you, I'm not shunning new technology. I'm also very familiar with the hassles that are involved in the printing world. And certainly Ambergris Today is not alone in their decision. Putting out a printed paper in todays day/age must be daunting (all across the US printed newspapers have been dropping like flies for the last decade.)
...I read an interesting interview that poignantly illustrated the demise of the printed paper... It was with a business owner in San Francisco. The particular business was not a new stand or bookstore, but greasy spoon diner that always drew a crowd for Sunday brunch. "We used to have STACKS of the sunday paper on all the tables" he said... "Each one would be read and re-read, passed around and at the end of the day there would be a huge pile... Now there are hardly any." I guess an iPad allows more room on our table...
...looking forward to the daily news Dorian, but sad to see the printed version go.
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#392125 - 11/06/10 11:57 PM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
[Re: Marty]
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Well, I hope it works out for them. I still like to handle a physical newspaper, turn the pages, smooth the paper, use it to wrap stuff in... etc.
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#392129 - 11/07/10 07:45 AM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
[Re: Marty]
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I guess my question is if you publish something online how can you keep anyone from sharing it? The text is certainly not sold but only shared. When you print a paper you can not control how many times the paper is shared or read by others. We all search the internet looking for things to share. Dont see how this can work for them. I will continue to cut and paste and publish on line anything I feel is significant from any site I find. If they dont want people reading and sharing the stuff they need to make theirs a paid site or somehow control access. See how much business they get then. LOL. It would have been better to make the paper better. If people dont read it in print they certainly wont read it on line.
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#392159 - 11/07/10 02:45 PM
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I'm sad about the change too. I watch when I am out and about, in a restaurant or local pub when the paper hits the pavement. One of the things I see is local Belizeans avidly enjoying reading the paper. As much as I love my internet connections, in a third world country it is elitist to think everyone has access to news via electronics. I think there is something wrong when they don't get it that news is supposed to be for ALL of the people.
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#392160 - 11/07/10 03:17 PM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
[Re: Marty]
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I suspect that the change is an effort to try and become somewhat profitable. I can't believe that if the paper was making money they would have made this drastic change. What is puzzling to me is that they would say they are getting so many hits. Maybe they simply don't understand the statistics. I wish them luck but suspect that this is the beginning of the end.
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#392163 - 11/07/10 03:30 PM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
[Re: Marty]
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You know, I have seen entities here putting up sites on facebook and web sites. They really don't understand the media and the statistics. There is a local business supported site on facebook that always prints chipper upbeat PR comments. Last that I looked, they had big number of business related "friends" and almost no personal "friends". Obviously everybody saw through it, unfriended them, and they are now "preaching to the choir". Funny!
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#392168 - 11/07/10 04:52 PM
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Whether they do or not, they don't understand the media. Facebook is interactive. Whenever anybody says anything to them, they don't get it. They like it if everybody says yippee, and how sweet and wonderful. But if someone says, I don't agree or makes one of our usual wry comments...they get defensive. This just doest go with their attempts at PR. They don't get the LOL atmosphere of the media. Friend is a generic term on Facebook...either you are one or not. Just to be friended to a commercial enterprise is just to be connected to them.
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#392169 - 11/07/10 05:02 PM
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Just to put it another way, the commercial entities on Facebook that are successful around here are fun and useful...advertising a party, or furthering an ongoing cause, or providing news. If they are just trying to attract new tourists (without providing a service that is helpful) they really aren't in keeping with the media. Most of us are bored with their intent after the next " it's wonderful day in Paradise schpiel". But if Elbert puts up a beautiful personal photograph...he produced..we are in awe!
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#392229 - 11/08/10 02:44 PM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
[Re: Marty]
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More Power to Ambergris Today!! =)
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#392262 - 11/08/10 06:42 PM
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[Re: Marty]
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It's Alive!!!! Looks impressive! Congratulations to the Ambergris Today staff for their hard work! http://ambergristoday.com/
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#392267 - 11/08/10 08:00 PM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
[Re: Marty]
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Lans right, of course, and many folks in this world who are not connected or just not reading news online will be cut off from written news.I have seen two month old newspapers treasured and passed around in an African village.
Edited by Dane (11/08/10 08:00 PM)
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#392279 - 11/09/10 06:38 AM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
[Re: Marty]
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I wish Dorian good luck,even though I will certainly will miss the ambergris today coming out every Thursday.A lot of their hits was generated the by printed paper and a lot of the local population don't have access to a computer. I agree with short that most of their revenues are generated by the newspaper and not online so I hope that they can survive.
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#392486 - 11/11/10 06:18 PM
Re: No more Ambergris Today printed versions, web only
[Re: Marty]
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Regarding the story on Mya and Larry Johnson - I find it interesting that they have the same photos on TMZ.com, which I presume that they bought from Dorian as he is referenced, but yet with TMZ you can download the original, and on ambergristoday.com they've posted their name all over it. I doubly find it interesting that while they are uptight about using their content without reference, they used Wikipedia without reference.
Finally - the site looks great but I personally feel that in absence of an actual newspaper, a website should look and feel like a newspaper - not MySpace.
Edited by Canam (11/12/10 06:09 AM) Edit Reason: wrong website referenced - sorry Marty!
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