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#401188 - 02/26/11 08:13 PM Re: Dog poisoning [Re: Cooper]
sunandsand Offline
I think we both want the same thing, Cooper. However, since I don't live there, and am only there a few times a year, I haven't noticed any positive change in the treatment of animals or indigents. I have been supporting SAGA in many ways for many years. I know I am not the only one, either. So, where is the change? After a while of giving and giving, one becomes defeated, and will turn towards giving to areas where the change becomes obvious after a while. I'm not saying I would not give to SAGA, I'm saying I won't live in a place without heart. A Government that supports this horrendous action is without heart...
We still support SAGA, but can make donations there without giving to the Gov. When the Gov gets a clue about how to treat those without a voice, I may rethink my position. And, nope, I don't want to live there...as much as I love Belize.
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#401207 - 02/26/11 11:45 PM Re: Dog poisoning [Re: Marty]
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Heart does not come from any Government..it comes from people trying to make a better Government...its happening all around you..in Egypt..Libya..if folks accept a Government that is lacking as you have, to just turn away then nothing will change. Actually The Government in Belize is not half bad..they are just so young...and how can you live in the U.S. with one of the worst Governments in the World. ITS NOT THE GOVERNMENT THAT MAKES A COUNTRY ITs THE PEOPLE......and anyway it makes no difference where you are in the world if you are paying it back as it seems you are..I cant understand why you are against helping poor countries..why are you negative...its so much about supporting the right humane thing to do..I am assuming you are young but could be all wrong on that...I do think you are right in the helping network and I know SAGA..they have helped Belize animals out for many years..I still dont get your attitude..I love Belize..The Government is what it is but we are guiding them with baby steps.....its THE ANIMALS..F---K the Government..Hopefully you will never visit the other 118 countries in the world that eradicate...

hi peter how am i doing......
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#401219 - 02/27/11 08:32 AM Re: Dog poisoning [Re: Cooper]
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Ya know, I am going to stop this diatribe now. This is about the animals, and the best way to get humane treatment for them. The tactics taken to get the help to where the help is needed is the issue. Obviously, the BZE Gov couldn't care less how these actions are affecting it's citizens. It should HEAR what you are saying, and what everyone else has been saying since this has come to the surface. Yes, The US has it's difficulties, and I guess that is why there are so many million people Immigrating into it every year, to enjoy it's difficulties.
This is about animal welfare. I never said I was against helping the animals. I said I didn't want to pay into a government who didn't listen to it's citizens who wanted to be heard. Youth at this point is just an excuse. I have seen such small changes on AC for the less fortunate. I am discouraged, disgusted and saddened by the blind eye and deaf ear of those in power. The efforts you are making are admirable. I applaud every effort anyone can make when attempting to advance a society into a better place. Why is it only YOU going to these meetings to be heard? You should have a group involved. You are known on CC and should be able to assemble a whole group to go to these meetings to be heard. yet, it's only you. I know you have such a huge job in front of you and it will be little voice, in a big arena, to be heard. I elect to go a different route, but our mission is the same.
I pray you can make a difference. I am not against third world countries and, when we are there, we are involved. But that isn't my home. I will continue to help those I can help here at home, and you do the same, and hopefully it can be done without sarcasm and ugliness. We both want the same thing, just have different ways of getting to the mutual purpose. I can do more from here, working with international efforts, you can do what you can do there, and hopefully it will all make a difference.
My fight isn't with you. We both want the same thing. The efforts you are using on me would be better spent penning a petition and having your neighbors sign it, and give it to your mayor and my friend Alberto Villanueva and ask him to help get the message to where it needs to be, if you can't get your voice to be heard. I will continue to work with HSInternational, and other systems designed to improve animal welfare in 3rd world areas, and hopefully as a combined effort, it will make a wonderful improvement.
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#401353 - 02/28/11 05:04 PM Re: Dog poisoning [Re: Marty]
Noelle Offline
The Caye Caulker Humane Society does an amazing job. We've brought supplies down and made a contribution on the web site (US Tax deductible by the way!). If you go to CC and visit the humane society you will see how VERY FAR your donation will go there! These people are saving and improving lives daily for the people and animals on CC. Maybe it seems easier to help animals in the US or Canada but if you want to really see your donation dollars at work, make a donation to CC Humane Society.

http://cayecaulkerhumanesociety.com/

Noelle (not a paid paid spokesperson, just a fan)

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#401371 - 02/28/11 09:27 PM Re: Dog poisoning [Re: Marty]
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I just received some pretty cool information today. This is what it said:

"Thought you would be interested in this, I discovered today that the Veterinary Oath was Revised ( the article is dated 12/2010) it now reads
"Being admitted to the profession of veterinary medicine, I solemnly swear to use my scientific knowledge & skills for the benefit of society through the protection of animal health and welfare, the prevention and relief of animal suffering. the conservation of animal resources, the promotion of public health and the advancement of medical knowledge"
The Animal Welfare Committee recommended the changes to emphasize that veterinarians have responsibilities not only to animal health, but also animal welfare. YAY! a step in the right direction and something to shove into the faces of those vets you say are not compelled to help."
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