Hello, Just wanted to chat with timeshare owners at Reef Village. I haven't been there for sometime now and wanted to know if the timeshare building has been built. Please feel free to email me!

The shell is built but nothing else has been done to it. I think cash flow is the big problem there right now. We were there the 1st week of March and just last week. Jeff

I am an owner at Reef Village too and haven't been there is some time either. Any updates on the condition of the resort and stability of the staff since they seem to change all the time would be appreaciated.

Hi all, we are Reef Village Timeshare owners ( for two Years) we are coming down the last two weeks of June ( Lobsterfest !! )
I will let you know what I see when there.
I have been somewhat concerned about the changes and turnover of people
Regards

Have just read Reef Village is under new ownership and that the future of the timeshare ownership is unknown. Not sure yet if this is good news or not. Considering the lack of information and communication, I'm presuming we are all at the bottom of the lagoon. See article at Ambergris Daily.

Hi Sundiver, do you have a link? I looked at the Ambergris Daily going back to Mach, did not see any article about Reef Village
..
Thanks

Article from Ambergris Daily dated May 21, 2011


Reef Village-Change of Ownership

The Ambergris Daily has been reliable informed that Jeff Pierce the former CEO of Reef Village Estates has handed control over the entire project to the Reef Village Owners Association.

Details are rather sketchy at the moment but it appears that the owners have banded together to save RV going into liquidation, and have formed a new committee to run all aspects of the organisation. Jeff Pierce is on, as are a number of RV owners, this committee and it appears that their idea is to raise a significant amount of monies to finish all the residential buildings and also to tie up all the common grounds which will be owned by all members of the association.

Jim Oliver an owner at Reef Village appears to be the the main person to field all the questions that members may have. It maybe worrying to some that Jeff Pierce is still involved but as he is probably the only person that knows all the problems and possibly some of the some solutions that may save RV.

It is also unclear on the rights or the involvement of the timeshare owners as they are not part of the owners committee. We at the Ambergris Daily are waiting for the press releases that we are sure will be issued by RV in the forthcoming days.

The Ambergris Daily is renowned for posting half truths, innuendo, rumours, gossip, misconceptions and conjecture. If RV is going into liquidation legal notices will be published.

If this story is true then the HOA will certainly be formally contacting its members with full details.

Be wary of your sources, no matter how well intentioned they are all speculative until an official notice is published by the parties or legal counsel involved.

So has anyone got any factual information on what is happening at Reef Village? I emailed them but have yet to hear anything back.

Thanks!

I am certainly NOT the go to person for RV, but I do have a little bit of the information.
RV owners have formed a corporation to take over control of the completed condos and villas. This will entail collection of the HO fees, the maintenance,insurance,rentals of the units and the hiring/firing of staff to conduct these efforts. They will be employing some of the current staff, and possibly hiring a management company.
I am not sure where the time share units fall in this plan. I am also not sure what is in store for the units that have been started but progress has stopped.
There are so many issues to deal with, and the corporation is absolutely determined to do the best for everyone concerned with RV, it is the goal that all who have invested in RV will have a positive outcome.

So Jeff is out then? Construction on any new buildings will be halted?

Not sure how "Out" Jeff is. He won't be in control of the condos or the villas in terms of maintenance, mgmnt or anything else involved with these. I don't know what the plans are for continuation of the construction. I would hope he finishes the project, I don't think he is being extradited....lol...I think he is just relinquishing his control on the completed areas. He should hopefully finish what he's started. I know he is having a rough time, I hope people are kind and not accusatory, and will give him an opportunity to make things right. I know everyone is angry, but he did have a dream, and he moved forward on it. It just didn't work the way he had planned.

You can say that about any building project these days. Recession depression.

Yes, it would fit any construction project. Things don't always work out as planned, or as promised. The thing to do is pick up what you can and move forward, and try to end up with as close to what you need as you can get. It isn't going to be exact, but should be close.
I hope Jeff finishes his obligations, and the saga of JP and RV is over. I hope it doesn't drag on and on, and I hope those who have invested their $$ there get at least their initial investment back, if not more. Time will tell...

I am a TS owner and we are scheduled to arrive this coming Monday for our "free" week. I have received confirmation from RV but now I am very concerned, I have not seen any updates on the FB page in about 3 weeks. I sent an email first thing this morning to confirm everything and arrange for our pickup at dock but have not heard anything yet. Does anyone have any suggestions on who to contact to confirm our accomodations are still in order?

Texas Family, I wish I could help, buy have no idea. I would think office would arrange for your pick up. They are bad about checking emails, so a phone call would be your best bet. If you have to, once you are there, you could take a taxi and ask for reimbursement, but I doubt that would happen (the reimb. part). Taxi's are fairly cheap, tho.
Good luck, and have a fabulous trip. Please let us know how it goes.

I would be interested in a name and contact when you return home as to who is handling the TS. I haven't been able to reach them by phone or email and had to make alternative arrangements for my stay at the end of the month. When there, I plan to stop in and speak with someone. Your help would be appreciated.

If anyone is into Timeshares, now is a good time to buy......people are selling them for 15 to 20 cents on the dollar!

Contact Ana Cruz rvvcmemberservices@yahoo.com. That is who we have been communicating recently with, but who knows if she is with RV now. My husband and I have been informed of this news about RV and I believe it to be true!! We have been dealing with a money issue for some time now with them, still hasn't been resolved, now I see why! We invested $8500.00 for our timeshare, do you think Jeff Pierce will refund our money, since he is such an upstanding individual.Purchaed our timeshare in 2008.

Im in line right behind you. I'ld be happy to be able to communicate with someone, get my money back or the the services and accommodations I was sold.

Well I am crossing my fingers that everything will be okay when we arrive. This is my daughter's graduation present. I too have been communicating with Ana Cruz but I sent an email early this morning and received no response today. I also posted on the Facebook page hoping someone, a resident or whoever would comment and let me know what is going on. If we have a successful trip I promise to give everyone an update.

Look on the Reef Village website: www.reefvillagebelize.com

There is an email address to the front desk and a phone number and fax number listed.

Email, call, AND fax your information and request confirmation. Surely one of the three contact methods will produce some response.

Dear TS Owners, I am here! Please email me at rvvcmemberservices@yahoo.com or call 011-501-226-4454 between 8am to 12 noon and 1pm to 5pm. I will be more than happy to assist you with reservations and arranging pick-ups. Please feel free to forward emails you have sent to other addresses and received no responses, to this address and I will do my best to get back to you as soon as possible.

Ana, How about returning your emails! I have written to you this week, I really don't have the money to call San Pedro!! Please let us timeshare owners know where we stand with Reef, for God's sake be honest!!!!!

Dear Texas Family, I really hope and pray that Reef will come through for all of you! That would make a great graduation present for your daughter, it's a beautiful Island with beautiful people! Let all of us know what happened!

I'll keep checking in too, to see what's going on with Reef Village.
I'm so disappointed though, we thought this place was paradise when we stayed a week in one of the villas. So much so, we bought in. I went through hell getting our Interval info sent in, contacting Reef, getting any response at all.
We're planning on going back in winter (bought 1 br, 2 weeks every other year in 2010).
Whatever form the resort takes from this point can only be positive, especially if the owners are involved.
This is the first place I've been able to find more than a glancing reference to Reef Village, other than the terrible reviews on TripAdvisor. But that was where I heard about the Homeowners Assoc possibly taking over too.
Anyway, I'll keep on checking as I now feel I have a good link to information.

I agree. For the time being, this is the only way for us TS Owners to stay in touch, get information and stay informed. All we can do is to stay in touch.

I agree with the TS owners. please keep each other in touch with what's going on. Unfortunatley, the Homeowners Assoc. only involves the homeowners, not the TS owners! If we don't have a permanent building, where will we stay in the future? I hope this all works out for everybody, I love San Pedro and the people.

From : Bill Nitchmann Chairman RV EC

To: Ambergris Daily
Subject Reef Village

I read the post on your message board and as the Chairman of the newly
formed Reef Village Executive Committee I am quite distressed about it.
I do not understand how anyone could write so many untruths that have an
impact on over 100 owners at Reef Village. This type of negative
information with no basis in the truth has a direct impact on all of us
that have invested in RV. Many of us are happy about our investment and
enjoy our time when we are on the Island. Many of us spend a month or
more there. We know it is still a work in progress and that the
developer wishes to complete the project as we would like him too. I
will concede that there are a few owners that may have a bone to pick
with the developer but that should be between them and the developer and
should not result in dragging the rest of us into their personal
problems. You know it's like a divorce case the only way you now who is
right is to get them in the same room and ask them both same question
and then maybe and only then you will understand the situation.

In regard to the post on or about May 23, 2011. I would have to say that
your reliable source is not so reliable Mr. Pierce has not handed
control of the ENTIRE PROJECT to the RVOG and the owners have NOT banded
together to save RV. We formed our Executive committee as required by
the Strata Act so that we could migrate towards being our own managers
over our investments forming A Home Owners Association Executive
Committee is the first step. We, the EC, are charged with the task of
hiring a manager to run the day to day operations of the landscaping ,
security, and maintenance departments period. We are also responsible
for developing a budget and invoicing each owner for his fair share of
the costs of these items. We have no legal right or desire to take over
RV as the message poster indicates. The completion of the remaining
Structures is still the developers responsibilities and believe me he
wants to finish this project as much as we would like him to. Mr. Pierce
had a great vision for RV and transformed his conceptual idea into
actions that has seen RV become a great place to own property and to
visit. Our committee has NO plans to raise any monies to finish any
buildings, we ARE NOT developers. We want to continue to enjoy our
little piece of paradise.

Bill Nitchmann
Chairman RV EC

To the chairman of RV: I'm not in a position to deny or believe anything Amergris Daily says, but I do know what I have experienced with RV. I haven't heard anything from Jeff Pierce about my situation with RV, he emailed my husband stating that he would contact him. Not a word as of yet!!! Why haven't you told the RV timeshare owners what happened with our affiliation with Grand Crowne? I heard that information from the President of Grand Crowne, I don't think he was being dishonest with me! Do you or anyone else live in San Pedro because this is where this information is coming from, the people that reside their and have witnessed what is going on! I would like to ask you why hasn't the Timeshare building been built and finished? Also, if RV isn't in a financial bind and all is well with RV, can I have my money refunded for my timeshare purchase?

I agree with Sonlover. I know that there are two sides to a story and the truth is somewhere in between. But after being so thrilled with our T?S purchase and then for a year and a half reading distressing reviews and comments about how poor the service, quality of condos, lack of response etc etc... all this news makes it hard to keep a positive attitude about Reef Village and what we saw when we stayed as guests when we bought our time shares.

Can you deny there is so much being told as untrue by so many different people on a global travel forum? Is that part of the reason for the EC, to establish some order and professionalism to the resort?

At any rate, I hope it all works out for the best and the resort is completed and realizes it's potential.

Well said by Sonlover and Charleswoodboy.

If RV is truly interested in establishing credibility to RV, they will work to honor the commitment by those of us TS Owners who helped to support RV during those earlier years, both financially and in spirit. Although TSO have no tangible property of which to claim, TS Owners can work together to bring respect to RV. Without this support, RV will have a difficult time bringing peace to the process and will forever have disgruntled TSO's, nor will they build solid reputation.

Hopefully, we can all work together to exemplify the spirit of San Pedro and RV. I would hope anyone would be proud to live AND play in a community that supports one another.

If I understand the issues involved here, as explained by the Chairman of the RV Executive Committee, the titled owners represented by the EC have no involvement or control over the time share operation. People who purchased time shares need to address their concerns to whoever they contracted with. Titled ownership at RV and time share purchases are two completely separate issues.
Granted, the developer appears to be involved in both endeavors, but the time share purchasers should not expect the EC or titled owners to resolve their issues.

To Bywarren, I have talked to Ana Cruz, JD, Grand Crowne and have written to Jeff Pierce about our issue and at this point nothing has been resolved. Could you suggest someone whom we all can talk to and get the correct information about RV's future for TS owners. I have had issues with RV from a month after purchase(2008) and still have to date! I hope and pray this will all work out for owners and TS owners!

I would think you need to speak with whoever you contracted with. What does your contract say as to who or what entity signed?
And if that is getting you nowhere, then you probably need to contact an attorney.

Ummm, we're contracted to Reef Village, same as the owners. It's the same group. They're affiliated with Interval International, but bitching to them will only get Reef kicked off their TS exchange.
sonlover's gotten way more response than I have. And I've been emailing for almost a year. I never even got my Interval membership processed until I shamed them on their FB page by asking outright if I was scammed. They removed my post (which I re-posted repeatedly until they actually emailed me. What a surprise, my II membership info was sent right away,. This was my first inkling to the thought that maybe I was dealing with some bsiness people who may not be entirely on the up and up...

At least there's a way for any of us TS owners to have a way to share info.
To a degree I agree with the EC guy, this is no place to sit and bitch and be all negative. But working this out involves sharing our frustrations as well. Part of the process...

Just checked my agreement, contract is with Reef Village Vacation Club. Is that not the same as the condo owners?

OK, I will preface my remarks by saying I am no expert on the law, and I doubt anyone else is on this message board. But it is my understanding that the titled owners thru the Strata Title Act are completely separate from the time share entity, whatever that is. Again, it sure sounds like you need advice from an attorney.

Hi, those that know me will catch my play on name. I have followed this message board for a few years, it is now time to step up and make my first posting. I am an owner of RV and have been involved with working to "right the ship". The owners have also been very frustrated with the developer, and we formed Reef Village Owners Group (RVOG)to collectively deal (battle) with the developer. With a great deal of effort the owners have just formed the HOC, we are currently working with Lands Registry to have titles released to owners where possible and we are working to ensuring that those that purchased units at RV see their dream realized. It makes no sense to battle the owners who now control the maintainence of the development and will be working diligently to improve their (and your) investment. In all my reading, I have never seen anyone tell TS owners as it is which is the owners have nothing to do with TS. We have been dealing with our own concerns as we have in most cases, 10-20 times the investment you do. You should collectively get together as RVOG has done, and formulate a plan to protect your investment. Although I am not on the new RV Executive, based on what I know, I believe that the HOC will support and assist your group where possible. Good luck.

Thanks for that. I appreciate the thoughts.
And just for the record, I don't think the owners are responsible for anything or hold condo owners liable in conscience or deed. I don't think the relationship between condo owners and time share owners should be divisive.
We all love the same place and want to spend some time there when we get a chance to unwind..
I wish the owners group all the luck in the world. A professionally run and operated resort is beneficial to all who stay there, whatever the investment level. Even as a resort, the 1 time vacationers come out ahead as well.

Hi all,
Just an update and a clarificatiion. I am an owner at Reef Village and would like to clarify some things that Bill Nitchman the chairman for the new HOC claimed. He is correct that there is a new homeowners corporation in place to run the resort. What he is not telling you is that the reason this came about is because the owners came together to force a showdown with Jeff Pierce. He is also not telling you that he is a staunch supporter of Mr. Pierce and is working to try and keep him in power. He is also not telling you that the "few disgruntled" owners represent nearly 80% of the units and that well over 50% of the owners have signed on to a class action lawsuit against Jeff Pierce and his developement company RVEL. Just to clarify his statement of no power shutdown "THE POWER WAS SHUTDOWN FOR SEVERAL HOURS DUE TO NON PAYMENT" by Mr. Pierce. He is also behind in water and cable payments.

For the timeshare owners, THERE ARE NO TIMESHARE UNITS. Mr. Pierce rents some units from owners to house the time share owners. He has in the past put timeshare owners into owners units without their knowledge or consent and they were never given compensation. I would suggest that the timeshare owners start banding together and find legal representation because their will be few if any units to house timeshare owners in the foreseeable future. I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news but that is the reality of situation as it is today.

Interesting. I can see where the time share people might need to seek redress thru the courts if they are not getting what they feel they contracted for.
What is the basis of the owner's law suit and what are they asking for?
And I am curious if there are that many unhappy owners with Jeff Pierce, why would they allow a supporter of him to be elected chairman of the Executive Committee?

Thank you to disgruntledowner for stepping up and telling it like it is!! I've believed this all along because of the information I've received from Grand Crowne, other sources and the information not given to me from Ana Cruz! I'm so glad that the homeowners have filed a class action law suit and we as timeshare owners need to take action. Please let us timeshare owners know who you contacted to start this law suit! Thank you again to the homeowners and timeshare owners for being honest of the happenings at RV!!!!

Hi timeshare owners,

fyi, there is a group of owners in the us and a smaller group in Canada that are pursuing FRAUD charges with their respective governments against Jeff Pierce. This may not get your money back but it may stop him from defrauding others.

There is a precedent for this, there is one "gentleman" serving 15 years in a federal penitentuary in Florida for defrauding american citizens in Placentia. The developer from Saphire Beach on Ambergris has just been indicted in toticehe Us and another developer from Placencia is being indicted in Toronto Canada. Our governments are looking at fraud in other countries seriously. It will take several people willing to file complaints to make them take notice. If you choose to take this route contact your local government and they can direct you how to file a federal complaint

Thank you disgruntledowner for posting this information, I'm willing to take the steps to stop Jeff Pierce!! I know I won't get any money back, but the satisfaction for me is seeing him from taking money from other people!

Sonlover or any other TS Owners, we too are interested in going the next step. If there is another group or groups looking to pursue other alternatives, we are interested in finding out more. Please contact us at rtso1011@yahoo.com.

My hat is off to disgruntled owner. Hope you haven't any dealings with Arthur Salvidar attorney. We paid our stamp tax and his 1% fee 2 years ago and still don't have our title. Since he doesn't return e-mails or take phone calls not sure what the next step would be. Could that be considered fraud also?

I had a similar problem a few years back when I paid a Belize attorney to do work he did not do and would not return my phone calls or money. I contacted the Belize Bar Association and got results.

Thanks for the input Very good info.

what happened to the affiliation with grand crowne, we haven't heard about this. what did the president say? any info you have on the whole TS thing would be greatly appreciated. we are suppose to be at RV june 18-25 for lobsterfest and now im worried that we might not even have a place to stay there.

Does anyone know about the Grand Crowne / Reef Village association? Was the dismantling of their affiliation put to a vote? Has anyone received any information from Grand Crowne over the years? What about. II? I have never received my info for II either and have not received any feedback on that either. Does anyone have contact that have gained any results?

From my understanding Grand Crown hasn't been around for a few yrs. I dont know who was selling the TS I bought in 2007. I do know that I have been using II and I had to contact them directly and bank my weeks and I have not had any problems with II. When they were using Grand Crown the reps were nasty and I was told that since RV didnt have a building I couldnt do anything. Since I have been dealing with II they have been very nice. We are using ours to swap in Italy next yr.

All Reef Village owners.
If you are looking to get out of your Timeshare at Reef Village please contact me at gvbelize@hotmail.com

I contacted Grand Crowne recently and this is what was told to me by email. This email is from David Akers, General Counsel, he states"the developer of RV originally agreed to enter into an affiliation agreement to use the Grand Crowne name, but when he would not commit to several key issues, we terminated his right to claim any alliliation with us". He suggested that the owners and TS owners sue the developer, which is Jeff Pierce. He states "the developer is the entiry all purchasers contracted with and the one which accepted any monies paid for timeshare intervals, not Grand Crowne. What we had agreed to do was allow purchasers at RV to utilize our Club, which allowed owners to exchange their week through II and stay at other II resorts, but without an actual unit week to give to II, there is no way to exchange." That was written 5/27/11. He also stated that if he found out any other info he would pass it along. Now what do we do? Does anyone know how the owners are coming along with their class action suit, if they have filed one at all?

Suecate, Aren't you a homeowner at RV? I'm not sure if the same applys to timeshare owners, do you know?

I am an RV villa owner as well as a TS owner. We are not involved or know of any class action lawsuit against Jeff. We are working to get our Villa completed.

Why would someone at Grand Crowne contact the reef village TS owners without being able to do something about the situation or buying them back..

It is typical timeshare practice as required by board protocol, that TS Owner members be notified in writing when amenities are reduced, whereby affecting membership. In the agreement by RV it does have vague language eluding to sales, however if you are looking to maintain a growing clientele, it would be prudent to communicate with your Owners to eliminate mistrust and maintain harmony. Obviously, this was not their intent. I would hope that to mitigate continuing rumors and supposition that they release communication clarifying any information and standard procedures. Improved relations would benefit them in the event they were to sell off the TS sector.

In response to Suecate, since my purchase in 2008 I contacted Grand Crowne, since their name was on every document I signed, questioning how to use these points I had accumulated. I got the runaround for at least 6 months and gave up. Because of my particular situation with RV, I contacted them again asking for help. The email that was sent came from Dave Akers and I quoted him exactly the way he explained it to me. If anyone wants to ask Grand Crowne why and when they pulled out of affiliation, email them yourselves. Believe me I was amazed when I received this email and I'm not getting any resolution to my situation with RV after receiving it! I am able to use 2 weeks with II, but that's it until my situation is resolved with RV! So Suecate why is your take on RV so different from the other owners and TS owners?

sonlover i dont know what your reading into my post. I have ONLY used my TS for exchanges as I stated. I have only dealt with Intervale and Not RV. My situation as a villa owner is separate and will not get into it with anyone on a message board.

My only question was and is why is Grand Crowne contacting owners without a resolution. Not looking for a conflict on the message boards.

I dealt with some people in the TS at RV who were very nice to my family and still are and guided me through the exchange process. They are no longer there. That was our reason for purchasing, to use only as an exchange. I am only relaying my experiance and it has only been with II.

Suecate, I was only responding to the question, "why would Grand Crowne contact the TS owners," as I stated I contacted them for possible help in resolving my situation with RV. They didn't contact me with this information. Someone earlier asked why wasn't Grand Crowne affiliated with RV and I responded with what information I had received. I don't know why you are getting defensive, I'm very happy that you are enjoying your Villa and able to exchange with II with no problems. What I meant by asking you what your take on RV was, is that from the posts some owners are filing a class action law suit against them, I wondered what your thoughts were? I hope I cleared up any misunderstanding you may have had! The last thing I want is conflict with anyone on this board, I was just looking for any help from other TS owners with the fate of RV in check!

sonlover just sent you a PM alls good..

Its been said that Jeff has left the island... Does anyone know if he will be back???

His daughter is in the Miss USA Pagent this weekend. She is Miss Michigan gorgeous girl. He told us this in february.

So he is going to see his daughter in the miss USA pageant and have a good time while he hasn't even paid his employees for 2 weeks... So tell me whats wrong with this Picture???

Just answering a question I won't be doing that ever again, just trying to help. But that is just biting me in the butt, so keeping my mouth shut. Good luck.

Sorry I didnt Mean to be rude... I was just stating a fact on how he is supposedly trying to help things get better at Reef Village, but there hasnt been any improvement!

Did a search for JP Belize and found it interesting that this is what came up http://kurt-howard.info/?r=TSEXPERT7&src=%2FJeff-Pierce-Belize.htm This is just an observation, no judgements made. Nor, have I validated that this is the same JP

not even close to being the same guy.

Just curious if anyone has any updates on what is going on. I understand that the Homeowners Association met on June 18th and I am wondering if there was any discussion about the Timeshare Owners.

I sure would appreciate any info on what is happening with the owners and the TS owners at RV? Are the owners going to file a class action law suit?

Are you talking homeowners or time share owners? I think there is confusion amongst readers. I would like to participate in whatever the timeshare owners can coordinate amongst themselves to form a plan or otherwise.

I heard the construction workers have been laid off for 6 weeks at Reef Village. Anyone else heard this?

I'm a timeshare owner, so my interest is mainly with them. Earlier on the board an owner at RV mentioned a class action suit, just wondering if that has been put into gear. Haven't heard anything about TS owners taking any action.

Time share owners filing a class action suit in belize
have two chances of winning slim and none
JMHO.

Following up with Captjeff's thoughts, I'd try to make my case in the U.S. courts if I was going to do it. May or may not be enough grounds for personal jurisdiction, but I'd say there's a better (if still slim) chance of recourse.

Selling and not building the timeshare units is a clear case of fraud.
Getting money in a victorius class action suit against him, is a clear case of impossible.

Be careful with the Ambergris Daily - they are not known to be a reliable source. Not sure who he/she is but I've found many, many tidbits of information on their site that has been very wrong or, at least, not telling the whole story. He/she is also heavily biased against developemt on the island. Not trying to sway anyone away from them, but just keep the source in perspective. Seems like they promote what they like and bad mouth what they don't.
Full disclosure: I'm not a reef village owner and do not own property in San Pedro. Nor do I work for, or have any connection to the project. I just enjoy the area, people, and culture and like to stay up on current events. I've been to the island 8 times in the past year.

Be careful with the Ambergris Daily - they are not known to be a reliable source. Not sure who he/she is but I've found many, many tidbits of information on their site that has been very wrong or, at least, not telling the whole story. He/she is also heavily biased against developemt on the island. Not trying to sway anyone away from them, but just keep the source in perspective. Seems like they promote what they like and bad mouth what they don't.
Full disclosure: I'm not a reef village owner and do not own property in San Pedro. Nor do I work for, or have any connection to the project. I just enjoy the area, people, and culture and like to stay up on current events. I've been to the island 8 times in the past year.

Just curious why you should care what has been posted on the message board from anyone's perspective from the goings on at RV? We are TS owners from all over the country and are concerned about the furture of RV and our investment. I don't rely on much info from any newspaper writings, but factual information that has especially effected me! I can say for myself, I have been ripped off by RV!

Well, I just registered myself for this forum. My husband and I are TS owners at RV. We have had lots of concerns and questions with no answers and it is next to impossible to get ahold of anyone. Now, I do have to say, we used our first week and it was fine. Had a nice condo, got the free golf cart, just as promised. But trying to set it up was a nightmare. Nobody would ever get back to us. We had to hound them daily just to get confirmation. Our payments are automatically withdrawn, and one month they took out 2 payments. It took forever to get that straightened out. When we were there, several people we interacted with that live there told us about problems with RV. Then of course all the stuff on Trip Advisor. I think the lack of communication from anyone at RV is the biggest red flag. We contacted our attorney, but for now, he advised that we stop all further payments (we have 3 left)until there is some sort of concrete evidence of stability. Not sure yet what the next step will be. There is nothing we would like more than for this to have a positive outcome, but nobody is getting another penny from us without some real changes.

Regarding what that liar CaptJeff said is crap, he has no shame in coming here and talking about the suit instead of trying to help out the timeshare owners and owners with the problems at reef village. The reason for it all going wrong is his fault and the reason for timeshare emails not getting answered is his damn fault! he keeps ignoring everybody on purpose cause he has taken their money and now doesnt want to keep his end on the deal... if you have any questions regarding reef village just ask me and i will let you know. One more thing he just fired everybody at reef village so i wonder if anyone is keeping and eye on him before he disappears and everyong gets swcrewed over...

Since when does CaptJeff have anything at all to do with RV?

Oy vey -
Reliable needs to be able to tell his Jeffs apart.

As was pointed out to Reliable - you do realize that you have the wrong "Jeff" - CaptJeff has nothing to do with Reef Village. An apology would be appropriate, imho. I feel for those in limbo.

Well, we officially notified RV 5 days ago that we had contacted an attorney and have stopped payments for the remaining 3 months we had until we paid off our time-share. We have heard absolutely nothing. No attempt whatsoever. We have been to the island several times before we purchased our time-share and that will continue. Hopefully everything will work out for everyone else. Such a beautiful place with tons of potential. So sad for all those who have invested their hard earned money...

WOW.WTF.. RELIABLE WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING .I AM CAPT JEFF
MOST OF THE ISLAND KNOWS ME AND I HAVE A PLACE AT ROYAL PALM
AND COME DOWN FIVE TIMES A YEARTO FISH AND LIVE THE DREAM . WRONG GUY .SORRY YOU GOT A TIME SHARE I ALWAYS SAID IT WAS THE WORST INVESTMENT IN THE WORLD .READ MY OLD POSTS .
IF YOU HAD ANY SENSE OR SMARTS YOU WOULD HAVE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK ABOUT THAT AND WHO I AM .
WHILE NOT A ANGEL AND I AM A BAD BOY .LOL.I AM NOT THE JEFF PIERCE
AT REEF VILLAGE .I LOVE THE ISLAND AND IT'S PEOPLE I HAVE MADE WONDERFUL FRIENDS HERE .I AM BLESSED.

I WISH ALL THE NICE FOLKS GOT CAUGHT UP IN THS MESS WELL
NOW IF YOUR REAL AND NOT A TROLL SAY YOUR SORRY ???

Ya caught me Jeff, sorry

Caught me to, Sorry Jeff

Come on everybody. 1-2-3
Sssooorrrrry Jjjeeeffff

SOOOOORY JEFFE !

Wait, I already did that

Capt. so called Jeff needs to get thicker skin. Maybe it is based in his weight loss? He he used to much kinder, as memory serves. We all have opinions as and we all hav A-holes and not all agree and most stink.

HA HAHA , Love it

Methinks The Captain still has a thick skin.
And he is enjoying all the media attention.
Looks like the thread is hijacked. Sorry 'bout that=-)
I understand the problem at RV is very important to the folks involved.I just could not resist. I will stop lest I lose my stripes.

Hi Everyone who is interested. we just got back a few hours ago from 2 weeks at RV.
We are timeshare owners, and we did have a good time on the island, we did see a few problems ( lots, actually)
I spent a lot of time talking to people, ex-staff, ex-timeshare salespeople, others.
I will write up a few of the things I was told, I will not post them directly as they are mostly hearsay, but I will share them to people who are interested if they PM me
Regards
jmont

Thanks jmont. I"m a new forum member who's planning on relocating to Ambergris Caye. Coming down in the fall (Sept, Oct, Nov??) on a timeshare exchange for 1st visit and get the lay of the land. I'm hoping to avoid RV, but glad to know that, if it's my only option, it won't be too bad.

Hello i am apologizing to CaptJeff regarding the post i made! I Hope you do accept my apology... but for the rest of what i said regarding Jeff Pierce is true and that all the timeshare owners please be carefull on making further reservation as the Condo owners of the units are pulling out of the rental pool and jeff has no intent in finishing your units... You should take him to court ASAP!!!

OK JUST GOT BACK FROM A FISHING TRIP NO INTERNET AT SEA
RELIABLE YOUR APOLOGLY IS EXCEPTED,AND ALL THE BEST ..AND I DO HAVE THICK SKIN LOL. FOR THOSE WHO LIKE TO TEASE ME ..
BUT JUST NOT WHEN IT COMES TO TIME SHARE AND MY GOOD NAME
WISH ALL THE FOLKS WHO ARE IN THIS MESS WELL ...
AND TO FUTURE FOLKS WHO GET TALKED INTO ANY TIME SHARE CON IN THE WORLD.I BELIVE IT WILL NEVER END [JMHO ]TO MUCH MONEY TO BE MADE.
I WISH THEM WELL TOO.
.LIVING THE DREAM IN LIFE SOMETIMES CAN HAVE A FEW HIPCUPS.

Unfortunately, Captjeff is correct about buying a timeshare, my husband and I fell in love with San Pedro and the trusting people we are got suckered in, like so many others. I have gone back and forth with RV trying to resolve our situation, but I know it will take more money to sue and we just don't have it. So RV and Jeff Pierce, you won, you got $8,000.00 of our hard earned money, I hope you sleep well! Remember, what goes around comes around, I truly believe that!

I'm with you Sonlover.
We're in the same boat, and legal action is most likely not an option, unless maybe we all collectively filed something "class action" and banded together. As a single suit, this will be another money pit and add insult to bruised ego. The thought of JP using my own money to fight a lawsuit galls me.
Lost money to a timeshare shiester, $8000, lesson well learned about TS..
Discovering the beautiful San Pedro, priceless.
I will not lose my faith in the inherent goodness of people, but it will help me to remember, not all follow that path.
Sleep well Jeff Pierce....

Agreed wholeheartedly. I was recently in SP and happened to spot JP in a bar. Had a real difficult time controlling my emotions. If others weren't around, I may have gone up to him, but instead I took the higher road and realize that we need to move on. I cant let this eat me up, chock it up to a very expensive lesson Looks like karma is looking at him in the mirror. JP looked like he'ld been run over by a concrete truck and hadn't slept in a year. I'm hoping his life is slowly - vey slowly- becoming a &@#* hole and makes him an old man faster than his years here on earth.

Just curious, is there a way that owners of the timeshare venture, reef village, or for that matter any condo development can get access to contact information of the other owners within a development? Does the SP Town Board keep this info?

I'm not convinced that RV actually formally registered all of us TS Owners. I think this site is our only hope of coordinating anything amongst us. let me know if you find anything out.

Just got this today, did anyone else?
Mike Maynard is no longer there. Neither is Ronnie so I suppose we can only surmise neither is the person that wrote this because he knows of units that no one else does.
Nice touch about the golf carts though. Also about them setting up a homeowners association. I think the homeowners wrestled it off you if my information is correct.
I wasnt quite sure about the running water and electricity though. Were they talking about the resort?
Nice try guys.




From: Michael Maynard <rvvcmemberservices@yahoo.com>
Subject: RVVC Update
To: "Ronnie" <frontdesk@reefvillagebelize.com>
Date: Monday, July 11, 2011, 2:30 PM


Dear Timeshare Owner,

We wanted to send an update to all of our owners.

Lobster Fest was a big hit last weekend. The food was great. Our Summer schedule of activities is as follows: Karaoke on Mondays, Dive in movie on Tuesdays and Thursdays and Wine & Dine by the pool, 2 for 1 vino on Wednesdays.

There is always the Palapa/Grill Area for owners to use and have parties. This is complete with running water and electricity.

Tours and activities such as fishing, diving and snorkeling can be arranged prior to or upon your arrival.

An update on construction: we have completed units to cover all of our timeshare owners and we are currently building four more units for expansion.

There have been rumors about availability for reservations and the viability of Reef Village. We have set up a Home Owners Association to handle the maintenance of the condo units. This will not affect the Vacation Club/Timeshare Owners units.

We are expecting a strong season.

Concerning the golf cart promotion, it is over now. We did not have as much response as we expected. We are shopping for the accurate revised quantity and should have them by the start of the high season.

Regards and looking forward to seeing you.

Reef Village Vacation Club

This is total crap!!! I was there last week, construction is 100% closed down and nothing of significance in the way of construction has been done for the past 6 months, all but a few (and I mean a few)support staff remain and the resort/construction owes many suppliers and workers mucho, mucho deniro. On a positive note, the owners are supportive of the new HOA as in excess of 90% of the homeowners have paid their May condo fees with Jim O. providing countless hours working with said suppliers and doing an outstanding job with the maintenance which as reported, is now being handled by the HOA. I personally talked with a few of the HOA employees and they are extremely happy with the new arrangement. Their equipment has been upgraded and they are excited and take great pride in actually doing proactive maintenance such as painting and servicing the exterior A/C units.

TS owners be reminded that the HOA or RV owners have never been party to RVVC and I would be surprised if there was a central list of owners that could be openly accessed.

IMHO, someone needs to step up and form a group similar to RVOG, set up a website which can become a focal point of those affected by TS. Then, work together and aggressively solicit RVVC and BTB with the dissatisfaction you are experiencing. Will this solve your problems? Probably not...but maybe it can assist in making this situation somewhat better, making someone accountable and assist in ensuring this does not continue to happen in the future.

"Just saying"

Hello this letter that was sent out is a lie!!! Jeff owes everyone and is not paying any utilities, he has to get threatened of getting shut down of utilities so he would send a something so it doesnt happen. He has fired all the construction workers and has not even paid them for their work. If anyone is able to get a hold of him dont let him lie to you stand up to him and let him know it. He got one guy to work with him and supposedly he will take over everything Timeshare, bar, restaurnat and Rental pool but he does not know nothing and if anyone checked his back ground all the places he has worked they have fired him because of steeling so Jeff isnt fixing up nothing but looking for someone to put his face infront of people and lie to them cause Jeff is not man enought to show his face!!!

Well just wondering if anyone else with a TS at Reef Village was contacted in Feb or March about a "deal" regarding maintence fees. We were told if we pay an extra maintence fee, the money would be used to replenish the golf-cart inventory and that by doing this, our maintence fees would be reduced by half for the next ten years. Well, we sent the extra maintence fee. OK, I am wondering where this came from. I promise I am not making accusations here, I am just trying to figure out what happened. I know the homeowners had to come up with a lot of cash to pay bills. Is it possible that is where that money went. Like I said, I am not accusing anybody of anything, I just want to know where my money went.

Sandy123...the implication that funds have been diverted to owners is outrageous and totally without merit! Owners have had nothing at all to do with TS and I know 100% that owners have never benefitted directly with funding raised by ts fees, but your fees were most likely used for resort operations and to satisfy loan payments to numerous suppliers. The HOA actually raised necessary additional funds by way of a small assessment which almost all owners have agreed to.

I am aware of the cart ploy, the carts that were purchased are junk and are already out of order, I understand that newer carts were reposessed last week for non payment.

Sorry. Really. It is just a thought that crossed my mind. Almost didn't post it and probably shouldn't have. The last thing I want is to offend anyone or make false accusations. We have all been through hell over this.

Received this email as well. I was in SanPedro during lobsterest and RV looked like a ghost town. A few people with most entrances closed off with one entry point. A sign for the Palms but when I drove in, no one around. Bar was empty. You could tell there were a few home owners occupying units, but for the most part patio furniture put aside and windows closed up. Same buildings they were working on prior, were in same condition. No progress Not the activity i had seen two years prior Not sure what to think. Worries me as a timeshare owner.

Hi all...just wanted to encourage you to keep posting, keeps it at the front of the blogs for more TS to see and get involved....Communication is the key to begin resolving all your issues. I would also encourage you to seek information at BTB (Belize Tourism Board)as well as make your complaints known to them. They issue licenses and help with asserting pressure. I am an owner at RV and wish you all good luck.

well I just saw on Facebook that Reef Village is advertising new management, new bar/restaurant name, new bartender, etc.... Haven't heard anything for awhile. Just wondering if anyone has been there recently or has heard anything??

My understanding is that JP has leased the rest. and bar to the person who had the "Hummingbird Pub" in town. Apparently, there is to be expected loud music, a lot of locals (that's not a bad thing) and more of a party atmosphere. I hope they remember that this is a residential area, not a party area, and keep it under control! It would be a shame to have it add to an already stressful situation there.

Well, maybe then it's time for JP to pay his local employees. The staff from the restaurant and kitchen still did not get their salaries. These are local people with kids and they have rent to pay. Some of them went to labor office and nothing has been done but promises. Time to pay at least the local wokers! NOW

Glad to hear there's been some positive change at Reef. I hope the management, restaurant and bar start to turn things around for the place.
Hopefully they can attract some new business and start paying some bills.
Has anyone been there recently to see if anything's changed there?

Whoever posted about the tourism board, what are we to say to them? As far as I've read, even though I'm upset to hear it all, and have contributed conversation myself, for the most part it's rumor and speculation.

Sorry English teachers, that was a huge run on sentence.. lol

I guess the fact that construction has stopped and employees may or not be unpaid.. but other than that, what can they get involved with? Wold they do an inspection or something, ask questions? I'm just not sure what their role could be.. Sorry, not being snotty, just asking what we've actually verified as true about the situation at RV.

Comments, conjecture?

I am still trying to gather information from Timeshare Owners to see what steps they are taking. Yearly dues will be coming out in December, will we hear anything by then, or will they drop us all from the list entirely? Also has anyone been able to obtain confirmations for stays, or when was the last time you stayed? Please feel free to email me directly (for security reasons this is my email for these postings only). RTSO1011 at yahoo (Reef Timeshare Owners only please). All others will be deleted. I would like to compile a list of everyone so we can communicate amongst ourselves. if you would like to participate, let me know. If I've already emailed you back, I will add you to the list.

When was the last time anyone used their timeshare credits at Reef Village?

We were there in May. The place was almost deserted. It has now been a couple of months since we informed Reef Village that we would not continue payments until we had assurance that our investment is safe and have heard nothing. No attempt to contact us whatsoever.

I am a Time Share Owner and would like to be on your e-mail list , so I can keep tabs on what is going on, too.

I sent you a PM

While I cannot speak for what's going on with the Timeshares, I can tell you that the transformation at the bar, pool, and restaurant has been FABULOUS. New management is fantastic. The menu at the restaurant has been and will continue to be updated, the 2 bartenders there are really good, and the pool is clean. Also, yoga and aquafit classes are being taught there daily. Definitely a much-needed turnaround. We had a birthday party there for 2 people last night, and the place was packed for hours.

Laura G.

Good to hear. Do you have any photos you can post? I would lve to see the transformation since I was there in June. As i understand however, the management may he different between condo owners and timeshare owners. Is there any news for timeshare owners?

Glad to hear things are improving at RV. We have stayed there 3 times in the past year and enjoy our stays very much thanks to the super nice employees and spot.

Looking back at some of the posts and the mob mentality from some of the posters is really sad and pathetic. Yes there was mismanagement, employees treated badly and unpaid for certain periods of time and to me that is the worst of it. Not what time share owners have put into or could possibly lose. All that seemed to matter to a time share owner was me, me , me. I'm going to sue, sue, sue. Let's get a class action and sue. Light the torches and we'll storm Frankensteins castle.

It's about the people who are employed there and provide for their families due to your good fortune.

I have been a little worried after reading all of the post here. My husband and I have rented a place form an owner for 3 months which I think means we will not have any problems since it is not a time share. I have walked past the place a lot of times and always thought they looked nice. Never been in the bar or resturant. So I am glad to see things are looking better.

Denise

If people paid money for something and have a contract stating what they are entitled to and are not getting what they feel they paid for, then they are certainly entitled to recourse thru the courts.
Can anyone explain how the Belize Time Share Law effects this or why it does not apply if that is the case?
Also doggirl: if your sole concern is for the employees and don't care that others might have been taken advantage of, then having those unhappy people resolve their problems and come to Belize to spend their money would be good for the employees.

The point was, at the first signs of any trouble is, who do I sue, how do I sue. The great American way.

Just forget it.

It appears from the posts that many of them have tried to reslove the issues thru contact with responsible individuals and have not received any reply. If that is the case, then court action would seem to be their last resort - not the first.
And,I doubt if most people who invested money would want to "just forget it".

As far as contracts, they are as worthless as the paper they are printed on. It is total discretion of the judge depending on who gave him the most money. Buyer beware.

Well folks, there you have it. An opinion of the Belize legal system and legal advice from a three time visitor.

doggirl, you don't say whether you are an investor or a visitor who has had pretty decent luck with her accomodations at RV. I believe if you were an investor, and there is that chance you could lose all of the money you have invested, you wouldn't be willing to "just forget it" and toss the useless paper into the trash.
If you invested, because you love SP and want to return time and time again, and the $$ you invested has created a void, with no hope of filling that void with either use of a unit, or return on your money, I think you would be as concerned as the rest.
If you are a visitor who has had good accomodations, congratulations...you are in the group we hope will return again and again, and help the owners pay the employees what they work so hard for.
I hope you are the visitor, and continue to have good experiences.
If you are an investor, I hope you see the light before you lose everything invested and "just forget it". If you "just forget it" I hope you can afford it.

Hi all,
just a little update on what is transpiring. 2 weeks ago Jeff Pierce was served with a class action lawsuit with approximately 43 claimants with more asking to join after the fact. The first court hearing is scheduled for Oct7 this year.This does nothing really for you timeshare owners but just an update. Mr. Pierce as not continued any work on any buildings including those designated as "timeshare" buildings.

There is a large movement starting among owners to file fraud charges both in the US and in Belize.timeshare owners will be able to participate in this if they so choose. As soon as the information is available on how to proceed I will post it here. There are at last look in excess of 20 owners who are going to participate. It is time to hold this person acountable for the lies,threats, thefts and outright fraud he has perpetrated on both owners and timeshare owners alike.

Hi Denise
If you have rented from a private owner you should be fine. I don't know which unit you rented but generally the owners are all good people and try to take care of their units. The HOC has taken control of the resort and all is working well. enjoy your stay. When are you moving in, we might cross paths

Well...you know what they say..."what goes around comes around" and "karma's a bitch".

I so agree that Karma is a Bitch!!! It almost never lets me down, that Karma. Love it!

and now you have KAMA Lounge right across the road. LOL

Please keep us advised. Thank you for the update.

Yes Yes!! Thank you so much for the information. We will check in periodically and would certainly be interested in participating in any legal action. I don't really expect to get back the thousands of dollars we have literally thrown away, but maybe it will prevent them from being able to take advantage of anyone else and also to preserve the reptutation of the island.

Sounds like the system may be working to benefit employees and condo owners. This is a positive outcome and hopefully continues so that the long term benefits the island as well. As for Time Share Owners, this is positive as well. We want the resort to flourish so that we too have reason to return and spend our time and money in what we believe is paradise.

As TS Owners, we have made payments and provided we are assured our money is being used as agreed, are willing to continue the maintenance dues. Where the past funds have gone, we are unsure. However, it is a benefit to all for our continued contributions of which assist in defraying RV maintenance costs. Our participation at the resort also means we use the restaurant, visit the bar, enjoy the retail store, and help to build a healthy and thriving place for all. Our business is an integral part of working together with Owners to turning this into an opportunity that we all learn and gain from.

It appears that what Owners are taking positive steps to begin a process we may have an opportunity to participate in and I support whatever both Owners and TS Owners can do as individuals or in unison. We just need to keep the information coming so we can benefit one another.

Keep up the good work!

Well SandDiver, that is a really good point you make. Hadn't really thouht about it that way. We have been focused on not handing over any more money, but now I'm not so sure...... But again, not without some type of "real" assurance.

To SandDiver,

from your post it sounds like you are a Piercenista, either that or yo don't have a clue what is going on. Pierce has been stealing money from both the owners and the timeshare people and using it for his own purpose. Very little of any money has gone back into the resort which is why the owners have filed a lawsuit against him and all of the bills have gone unpaid. The next time you have contact with anyone there ask them where they are going to house the timeshare owners????? Most owners have pulled their units from the rental program for non payment and in spite of what you may have been told THERE ARE NO TIMESHARE BUILDINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are one of the very few timeshare owners that is contributing to Jeff Pierce's retirment fund. All that being said I am glad you have enjoyed your stay at Reef Village

Just an FYI...my husband and I just moved to AC a week and a half ago, and we walk into town from up north every day since our bicycles are not yet here. We did notice some actual construction in a new building at RV (to the left of "Building 1") this week. We know nothing about RV or all the internal issues reported in this thread, but I did want to pass this along to RV folks in case it helps in any way.

Cheers,
Emily

Disgruntled Owner,
I think you have misinterpreted my message. I TOTALLY support the Condo Owners and DO sympathize with the condo owners! I would be doing the same thing you are doing. All I'm saying is that we as TS Owners are (speaking for myself) more than happy to pay the Owners (as it should be) to help support Reef Village with annual dues in exchange for use. In return, this will help financially both the resort and the owners. The condo Owners need to go after JP for the obiligations he failed to make good on. We (TS Owners) lived up to our part of the bargain and we will do as necessary to protect our investment (no different than conco owners). I just want to find a way to benefit both types of owners and the island. Are you as an owner telling us that timeshare owners are not welcome by condo owners? Or, did I misunderstand your message?

Hi SandDiver,

let me give you a quick history and perhaps that may clear some things up. First the timeshare people have all been good people and have been mislead by Jeff Pierce. When we all bought in to Reef Village THERE WERE NO TIMESHARES.About 2-3 years after the project started Piece decided to sell timeshares but there were NO TIMESHARE BUILDINGS. Per Belize strata law timeshare owners cannot be housed in the general owners condo's. Later Pierce redesignated the last 2 buildings (the ones next to the school) as timeshare buildings. However, those buildings were never built and he has been trying to sell that land for a casino ( which was never on the plans)In the meantime Pierce housed timeshare owners in units that the owners had placed in the rental pool. When he did not have enough units he would STEAL units ( use owners units without their knowledge or compensation) After failing to pay te owners in the rental pool for the use of their units most of them pulled their units out of the rental pool and changed the locks. So as you can see there are NO TIMESARE UNITS and very few of the owners are willing to have anything to do with Pierce. Because of Pierces past abuses when owners find someone in their units without their knowledge or permission the police are automtically notified and whoever is in the unit will be arrested or immediately escorted out of the unit. It is unfortunate and unfair as most of these people are naware of what is going on but the owners are going to put a stop to having their units "stolen"! Also when this happens Pierce doesn't even have the courtesy to pay the utility bills. Owner are notified that they owe hundreds of dollars in utilities when there was not suppose to be anyone in their units.

Just so you understand when you pay whatever fees you pay for your timeshares that money goes directly to Jeff Pierce and neither the owners or the HOMEOWNERS CORPORATION sees a penny of those fees, All of that money just goes to line Pierces pockets.

It is not that you are not welcome it just that we owners didn't know you were coming and there is no place for you!! I hope you understand that this isn't meant to be malicious just to give back ground on what is happening with owners and timeshare owners. With all that being said I hope you are enjoying your time in paradise as it truly is.

Thank you. I think this helps many understand the concerns more clearly. That being said, maybe if we were to think "outside of the box", just maybe there is some way we could help to benefit you, the condo owners rather than Jeff Pierce. Just a thought.

Jeff pierce cell phone - 6202741
Jeff pierce home number - 2264521
Jeff pierce email - racetruck1@aol.com

Just information to give to your lawyers if you are planning on taking legal action.

Hope it helps!

Wow. Thanks!! I just sent JP an e-mail. Don't expect to hear back but will let you know if I do. I imagine the phone numbers will change, if they haven't already. Ha.

Hello All. Just thought I would share with you my recent contact with Jeff Peirce. What follows is my e-mail to him and his response, which was within 24 hours. Have not responded to him yet, but plan to.

Hello Mr. Peirce.

Your e-mail address was posted recently and I thought I would contact you regarding our timeshare at Reef Village. We are out thousands of dollars, as are many others. I was wondering if you would be willing to address this issue? Are we just out the money or is there some plan to get things back on track? Can't seem to get anyone to answer our questions or to respond in anyway. I hope that you are a man of decency and respect.......

Anxiously awaiting a reply,

George and Sandra Horne



Sandy
You are not out of your money. The timeshare owners have all of the benefits that they purchased.
What is your contract number? Why do you feel that you and many other owners have lost thousands of dollars ?
Regards
Jeff Pierce

Sandy,

Have you had any additional communication with JP?

Hi All, I did hear from JP again and I copy and pasted this e-mail below (altho I did delete our account #). But, I think at this point, we are just going to walk away. The only info I really have is what I read on this message board. I do realize this is a result of not getting answers from RV, but at the same time, we are just not getting anywhere and it is just spiraling into negativity. In all liklihood, JP had the best intentions with his project and it didn't work out. He has handled it poorly, but what is done is done. We will never see our money and I am tired of going thru this. We are all losers in this deal. Best wishes to all of you. We will return to San Pedro!! Thanks for everything. Sandy Horne

George and Sandra
We turned over the maintenance of Reef Village to the Home Owners Corporation (of which we are the owners of more units than any other owner). The timeshare company has more units than are needed to fill all of the timeshare owners needs.

There are no class action suits in Belize.

I am not ignoring you. Is this information for you or do you need to fill your personal need to participate on a blog ??

You have not discussed your misleading claim that you have lost thousands of dollars.

Regards
Jeff

In a message dated 9/26/2011 1:59:37 P.M. Central America Standard T, sandyhorne@cebridge.net writes:
Dear Mr Pierce,
Our contract # is. It is our understanding that you no longer are affiliated with Reef Village. That, in fact, the Homeowner's group has taken control and have brought a class-action lawsuit against you. It is also my understanding that there is no Timeshare building. Timeshare owners have been housed in owner units, sometimes with and sometimes without their knowledge or reimbursment. Any attempt to contact Reef Village in regards to this matter have been ignored. In fact, this is the first time anyone has responded to a request for information. So, are you telling me that everything is fine? That all of my concerns are false?
Thank you for your timely response.

George and Sandra Horne

Hi
We have been looking to book into Reef for 2-3 months in January. We have been talking to 2 vacation rental companies. We are now worried that we may get scammed. Are we better to deal direct with an owner and if so is the a website for them?
Thanks in advance.

Are you a timeshare owner? If not it seems like you should look elsewhere, based on the info from this Board. Is there some pipeline to the condo owners from the timeshare owners? Some kind of good will that is going on from the actual condo owners?
I can see this moving to a sad new chapter, if the condo owners get pressured from the timeshare owners.

Can anybody explain to me why with all the great places on this island would anybody want to go there at this time with all the problems and bad press they are having ??? true or not?
There are So many wonderful hotels ,condos to go to at great value.
IS THE JUICE WORTH THE SQUEEZE .?
GO LIVE THE DREAM IN PEACE.
THE TRIP TO PARADISE SHOULD BE STRESS FREE .
WHY GAMBLE YOUR VACATION ON A MAYBE? JMHO.

Reef Village is a great place to go and have a vacation. For those not embroiled in the politics of the developer/owners/timeshare, they have not a clue that anything is going on. We own a condo there and go at least 5 - 6 times a year. We thoroughly enjoy ourselves in our beautiful top floor ocean view condo. We have family and friends use our condo frequently and they have a wonderful time. The staff is friendly, the grounds are beautiful and well-kept, there is always electricity, water, cable, and internet. Nice pool, restaurant and bar. The turmoil going on with the developer has not hindered the operations as far as I, and all my many guests are concerned. Go and enjoy!

The road in front of Reef Village is horrible, however. Deep potholes that turn into mini-lagoons every time it rains. Due to a nice stretch of dry weather, the road is now completely dry from north of the bridge well past Grand Caribe EXCEPT in front of Reef Village, due to the depth of the potholes there.

Not sure what that means, anyone staying north of bridge traveling by cart has to pass that section of road, are you suggesting no one stay north of bridge?

Not necessarily, and you are correct, of course; it is just something to be aware of for someone who is considering a visit and knows nothing of Reef Village. "The road" is the first thing many people talk about when RV comes up in conversation.

I agree with you, tcoats. We were just there, and had a fantastic time. We love spending time there, and enjoy having friends and family there as well.
I would think that once the issues with the developer are resolved, RV will become a wonderful place to be. As it is, the issues with him really don't impact the amount of pleasure one can get from being there.
The road is again, everyones problem, at least everyone who travels north on the road. Won't go there again, I think we have beaten that horse to death, but don't not go for fear of not enjoying yourself. It is still a great place to stay.

Here is something I'm not understanding right now. The last couple of years, when the road was the worst from the traffic circle to the bridge, and very nice in front of RV, and bad from RV north; why has it changed now, that it is worst in front of RV?

And this Captain Hollywood guy, associated with the theater, and (I may be wrong) RV; has the road grader, and is asking for $$ to grade the road?

Why not be a stand up guy and just grade the road in front of RV? It is usually graded several times a year, why wait until High Season? That hasn't been the way it was done for the last two years. Maybe more?

Yes, Gwen it is at sometimes the worse part of the road heading north.............there is absolutely no drainage in that part of the road........until they figure a drainage systmem out it will allways be a major problem.

The road in front of Reef Village is now the responsibility of the Reef Village Homeowners Association.

We were preparing the road for grading by the theater but will wait until this storm passes and the water table recedes. Otherwise all our work, time and money would have been for nothing.

The grader will be out as soon as the soil is dry enough. If you want it can carry north as far as Las Terazzas.

If we can get a 75% response rate from the residents between the bridge and Las Terazzas, we can lower the cost of grading to $2 belize per foot. This would be based on your frontage.
We feel this is a fair price and will compensate for any gaps such as empty lots and absentee owners.

So for example if your property frontage is 50 feet on the roadside your contribution would be 50 x $2 = $100bz.

This price includes fuel, operator, sideman, and all taxes and surcharges which is a very good deal. Everyone who uses the North road should contribute.

How much is your comfort worth? your back? the repairs on your golf cart? muddy shoes and clothes, your time, not to mention response time for emergency services. Think about it. I'll be around shortly.

The road in front of Reef Village is NOT now or has it ever been the responsibility of the Reef Village Homeowners Association . The company/developer who built it is responsible for it's condition . It is NOT a part of the parcel of land that the Homeowners association oversees. According to the S.P.T.C. it is a trail and not their problem , so the Paradise Theater and the owners of the large open commercial lot and the other owners who's property fronts this trail can ALL pitch in to get several bids to have this filled with proper aggregate as a base ,to a proper elevation so the rain water has some place to drain.Get the facts correct this trail is NOT the responsibility of the Reef Village Homeowners Association , period!!!

If you look at the road grading thread, 1st page, third comment, SF Jeff, owner of Azul Resort said he would do it for free.

FYI.......Capt Hollywood is Jeff Pierce and he is trying to hide behind a new monicker. How fitting!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The road in front of Reef Village is not the rsponsibility of Reef Village. Although the road is in terrible condition it should be the responsibility of ALL the resorts north of the bridge and specifically those resorts in the immediate area that are impacted. If there is someone who has volunteered to do it for free then he should be contacted

Captain Hollywood is not Jeff Pierce. Jeff has never bothered to read or respond to anything posted on this message board. You will not have the pleasure of talking with, jousting with, yelling at or insulting Mr. Pierce via this board.

Once again, Please read the posts carefully and to the end.
Do not have a brain implosion after the first few lines.

To set the record straight.

1. I am not Jeff Pierce. I am much better looking.


Nor am I "that Captain Hollywood Guy"
Please refer to me by my proper title of
Evil Lord and Devine Conquerer.

For Halloween, perhaps I might dress up as Jeff Pierce and fool you all ha ha ha ha ha hah aaaaa (evil laugh implied)


2. No one volunteered to grade the road for free. please re read the post and then look up the word "sarcasm"

3. My response to Gwen A's post was that the road in front of Reef Village is not the responsibility of Paradise Theater.
It is the responsibility of the Reef Village Homeowners or Reef Village Development or Reef Village Bubble gum club. I don't know which, there are so many associations, comittees and groups being formed over there. I really have nothing to do with Reef Village.

4. Smiles are free, thats about it. everything else costs. It's not about being a stand up guy. The road grader is expensive to maintain, burns fuel and needs a driver and sideman. Costs.
Can I come and stay at your Condo for free when you go back home Gwen A? C'mon be a stand up girl and don't forget to stock up the fridge and bar before you leave. I'll need 2 keys.


5. Everyone that uses the road will be asked to contribute in accordance with thier frontage.
If we can get 75% of the businesses and residents to contribute, at $2 bz/ft. We can grade the road from the bridge right through to Las Terazas. I am offering this at a discounted price and picking up the slack in between properties.

7. I will be coming North early next week to see what the concencus is. Quite simply I'll be asking what you want.
Nice enjoyable comfortable riding road, or Moto-cross course.
Its up to you..

There are no stupid questions, however, stupid questions will not be tolerated.

Thank You.

Captain Hollywood
Evil Lord and Devine conquerer (but not Jeff Pierce.)

Amanda, although Jeff does not personally peruse the forum, he does have lackeys who print off stuff and hand it to him, or they review it and report to him. I know this first hand! He is devious, and I wouldn't put it past him to be Capt. Hollywood, or at the least have Capt. Hollywood in his grips. DON'T TRUST HIM! Where Jeff is concerned, it isn't "Will he take advantage of you", it is more "When will he take advantage of you" so everyone who deals with him, do your due diligence.
Believe nothing he says, and all that he does.

I know I have said this before but I will say it again. Captain Hollywood is a fellow named Dan that you can go and meet in person at the movie theatre. He is a real flesh and blood person that in no way resembles Jeff Pierce.

Of course Jeff sees what is posted on this board - he would be an absolute fool not to know what people say about his business practices.

The folks at Reef Village will not win or lose their battle with Pierce on this message board. There are law courts for that.

At this point it looks as if we may have to pull yet another thread from the message board because it becoming slanderous again.

Amanda, just because you sell the paper in no way means you should be responsable for what is written on it. Let him go after her if he chooses. JMHO

Sorry Amanda. Guess I'm tired of him taking advantage of so many people. I will bow out, but actually I'd love for him to take his best shot! I have an army of people who are backing me...he will not make it out without injuries!!

On one of my group pages I have a photo of the dredger chomping up mangrove along side the road. Unfortunately the origial was lost in a computer crash. I'll see if I can get a copy for the RV owners.

Thanks Harriette. Anyone else who has info they'd like to forward to me please PM me. I am accepting all evidence, lol...have several books full so far!

No, we won't share names. All info will be kept confidential!

Reef Village Timeshare Owners have been defrauded by Jeff Pierce.
He has sold you a piece of paper (your contract) and nothing else.
NO TIMESHARE UNITS EXIST AT REEF VILLAGE, Jeff Pierce is merely using property owners units, without their authorization, to house any timeshare owners that show up. The property owners have caught on and are suing him in court.

Timeshare owners that have any issues can email us at ContactUs@ReefVillageOwnersGroup.com we will be able to assist you. Legal action has already been filed in Belize against Reef Village and Jeff Pierce by the property owners. Timeshare owners it is time to get what is rightfully yours.