#410167 - 06/19/11 02:12 PM
Re: CRAFT VENDORS IN SAN PEDRO ASKED TO RELOCATE
[Re: collyk]
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Sorry, but I don't understand why it is the responsibility of business. Surely it is the responsibility of the community at large. It should also be the responsibility of the government to enforce all the laws uniformly including immigration, child labor, business registration, tax collection, etc. I think I can figure out your philosophy from the statement "make money from those that live here". Sounds a little Obama like to me.
Edited by CaptOneIron (06/19/11 02:13 PM)
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#410169 - 06/19/11 02:35 PM
Re: CRAFT VENDORS IN SAN PEDRO ASKED TO RELOCATE
[Re: Marty]
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Several of the business owners here have made suggestions. Unfortunately, we are not able to police the immigration and tax issues. My problem is that if some of the vendors are here illegally, and are working without licenses, then they are not only taking money and sending it to relatives outside of Belize, but they are taking jobs away from Belizeans. GST as I understand it, is payable by anyone running a business making $70,000.00 or more a year, excluding hotel rooms. The street vendors would most likely not make that amount, and therefore would not have to pay GST on their earnings.
While I realize that there are not enough seats for all the children to be in school in San Pedro, I also know that some of the children who have seats, are taken out of school by their parents during the school year, in high season, so that they can run the beach and sell bracelets. I have seen many of these children grow up, but I see new, smaller ones every day.
If they want to sell their items to tourists, then they should be in the country legally, and have a business license. The town council/community at large should figure out a way to make a sales space for them that is affordable, clean, and has bathroom facilities.
No one is suggesting that the vendors should get a free ride, only suggesting that they have an affordable, legal way to make a living, without depriving their children of an education, and going through the same immigration process that everyone else must go through.
Children, by law in Belize are supposed to be in school until the age of 14 or 15, I can't remember. But the same issue we have here is the same issue we have with many other things (i.e. tinted windows, speeding, etc).... THERE IS NO ENFORCEMENT of the rules.
I am all for the vendors continuing to sell their wares, but I believe that they should conduct themselves like every other business in San Pedro.
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#410174 - 06/19/11 04:08 PM
Re: CRAFT VENDORS IN SAN PEDRO ASKED TO RELOCATE
[Re: collyk]
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If the shoe fit's then wear it. I didn't say depend on the government to solve problems. I said the community should solve the problem but the government should enforce the laws on the books. It is not always about money but sometimes it is about personal responsibility. If these people are from Guatemala or somewhere else and are here illegally then they should be deported. There is nothing worse than a sense that all the problems should be solved by a few people - in fact that is not democratic at all. None of your tortured shibboleths will change the fact that if the laws are enforced equally then a big part of this problem would likely go away. As it is it probably encourages more people to come and abuse their children, abuse the business community and count on do gooders to lay the blame at someone else's feet. So you can be sad, you can be insulted or anything else you want to be. I have said nothing out of line, nothing untruthful, nothing that could be construed as being part of the problem. OK, you are the solution - go ahead!
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#410176 - 06/19/11 04:35 PM
Re: CRAFT VENDORS IN SAN PEDRO ASKED TO RELOCATE
[Re: collyk]
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Thomas Paine phrased it so succinctly: "Lead, follow, or get out of the way."
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#410177 - 06/19/11 06:06 PM
Re: CRAFT VENDORS IN SAN PEDRO ASKED TO RELOCATE
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Talk, talk and more talk?
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#410180 - 06/19/11 09:16 PM
Re: CRAFT VENDORS IN SAN PEDRO ASKED TO RELOCATE
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I think both sides are right. The biggest problem here (San Pedro) is indeed lack of tax revenues, but we should ask ourselves why that is so. The GST department (to pick one example) has a policy of checking on (auditing) only those businesses that have registered for GST. Those businesses which do not register, regardless of whether they should have done, operate freely. And as has been well publicised, property taxes are not collected from certain "connected" individuals (whose businesses tend to have the highest turnover), and often not from the others either.
Another reason tax revenues are low is crass inefficiency or simply corruption, which ultimately amount to the same thing. Many businesses do not pay their due taxes according to law because there is a local policy not to press them for payment. Often this is because the business owners have the right connections, or sometimes simply that the "authorities" are not competent at what they set out to do. There are numerous "specifics" to back this up, and it's dispiriting that "the elephant in the room" is so ignored.
And lastly, the local town council has not been properly audited for some nine years, even though an annual audit is a legal requirement. The central government authorities are well aware of this, but when challenged said that the reason they didn't conduct audits (other than the trivial checking of petty cash and the like) was that "the town board doesn't want to be audited". As they say, "when the cat's away...".
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