#418029 - 10/07/11 05:17 AM
Road Grading on North Ambergris.
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If there are any property owners on North Ambergris that wish to have thier roads or property graded Please contact PLS. We will be happy to discuss your needs and provide a quote.
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#418056 - 10/07/11 10:38 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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I will grade the road North for free. After these past rains, I give it a "D"
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#418058 - 10/07/11 11:05 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: SFJeff]
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Hummmm, this could get interesting.
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#418068 - 10/07/11 11:39 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Bravo, the spirit of the old Belize many of us moved here to live in. I visited Diane Campbell and her new Indigo development a few months ago with a good friend from Cayo, who grades most of the roads in the Mtn Pine Ridge and that is no easy feat. We didn't understand why the hotels and residents north of the bridge all get together and do it themselves instead of waiting for govt or another Intl conference to get the road graded. Its not expensive if shared and maintained. I would present this to local govt or GOB and ask for gst exemption on the fuel and other costs associated with this. See what BTB and Min of Works will kick in.
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#418080 - 10/07/11 12:56 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Diane Campbell]
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We graded the road by the Theater less than two months ago.
However, with all the rain and high water table especially around the theater where the land is filled, it didn't last long. We will do it again in November once the water level recedes. If we do it now it will be the same in a couple of weeks and the grader is expensive to operate.
If every one wants to contribute for thier portion I can have the grader pass one time and do everything in one shot rather than having to send it up each time for each individual job.
If you want to contact the town board or come to some sort of agreement, we can arrange a contract where I can do it on a regular basis.
That is why I posted this to see what type of interest is there.
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#418082 - 10/07/11 01:47 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Curious.......how much does it cost per hour to operate the grader?
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#418094 - 10/07/11 02:49 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Loansum-Al K]
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It varies, but it does burn a lot of diesel just to move it.
Then there is the actual work it has to do. If it is a light scraping and resurfacing it will obviously be less that if the potholes are deep and we have to make several passes. The more earth we have to move the more time and diesel it will take. Plus we have to pay the driver and sideman.
That is why we will come out first and look at the job and give you an estimate. Plus, as I said it will be more economical if we can get everyone together and do it all in one shot.
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#418120 - 10/07/11 08:49 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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How about if the "road" (or total complete lack there of) between Journey's End and Indigo is addressed? That way people driving North do not have to drive in other people's front yards on the beach. It's my understanding it would take a good amount of fill to fill in one stretch back there, but if one can build a road across the island to Grand Belizean Estates, one can certainly bridge a couple hundred feet of swamp.
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#418201 - 10/08/11 02:27 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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I've stopped calling it "the road" and started calling it "the new pools at Reef Village."
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#418243 - 10/08/11 10:00 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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I have a great deal of sympathy for the folks who bought into Reef Village and applaud them for the efforts they are making to be good neighbors. So, folks it isn’t you we blame for the lack of infra-structure. The developer AND the government that allows development and sales BEFORE roads, sewage, electric, etc. are put in are the ones to blame for the condition of the road which for years I have called “The Reef Village Lakes.” Today, while driving north, I met an oncoming tourist who was not slowing down at all. In an effort to not get drown by his splash I pulled as far right (towards the sea) and almost tipped over as the two wheels on the passenger side sank into the mud.
SO - beware – that is not solid ground on that side of the road.
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#418270 - 10/09/11 09:59 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: ScubaLdy]
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Went back and looked at some threads from several years ago.
Being only an occasional visitor and only for the past few years I cant seem to sort out exactly what is the case just north of the bridge.(tres coco's)
Tell me what I have wrong.
1) The entire area was mostly Mangrove swamp 2) Except for the cloisters mangroves were destroyed in building all of these developments 3) Their was a utility easement that has morphed into a road 4) Prior to the building of any of the buildings in this area there was no problem with the road 5) prior to the building of the seawall there was no problem with this road 6) prior to the building of any of the "seaside" resorts there was no problem with this road 7) the building of RV is what caused the drainage to "change" and cause the road flooding, the prior development bore none of the responsibility?
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#418271 - 10/09/11 10:11 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Remember the plywood highway 10 years ago.
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#418277 - 10/09/11 11:26 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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If RV people were the only ones using the road, I would agree that RV would be responsible for the full maintenance. However, everyone who drives North on this road is responsible for it. RV may have demographically assumed the load in front of the resort, but seriously, everyone who drives on it is responsible. How can one resort take it on completely, and yet the taxi's, golf carts, etc are using it daily? As much as I hold the developer responsible for a lot of stuff, this is ridiculous to assume he is responsible for the condition of the road. Perhaps a "toll" could be charged for those who use the road and feel they are entitled to use it and complain about it? The toll could be used to maintain the area in front of RV. Come on, people....it's easy to blame, but in all fairness, everyone is responsible. The further north you go, the more the burden lies with fewer people, but it's demographics. And it's fairness.
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#418284 - 10/09/11 12:13 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Didn't the developer of RV give an undertaking that he would build a proper road on the "mud flats"?
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#418285 - 10/09/11 12:23 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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I take it once the surface material of the road breaks through to the underlying "native mud" in a pothole that's when it gets really interesting?
Questions: Do they crown roads or simply blade them flat? Do they use(have) a roller that follows the grader and compacts the road (and any fresh material that may have been applied)? or do they simply rely on traffic to compact the road?
Sorry in advance for the simplicity of the questions. This is not any kind of implied ciriticism I'm simply trying to understand common practices.
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#418289 - 10/09/11 02:04 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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The grader makes any number of passes up and down any particular section moving loose material to the side thereby lowering the center. I stopped and talked to the equipment operator one day and asked him why he did it this way. He said, "If I have time I come back and move the loose stuff back to the center. I seldom have time."
When I talked to some of the locals here about digging ditches along the side the road and have it so the water runs off the road into the ditch I was told "Not on my property!"
If we ever are allowed to look at the books we might find enough bridge toll money to fix the "NOT A ROAD!"
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#418290 - 10/09/11 02:11 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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We need Uncle Dean and Co. to invite the bunch of big wigs back like last winter. We would have the north freeway back almost overnight.
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#418308 - 10/09/11 07:21 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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The bridge suffered dramatically from the flurry in question. Maybe its patched up enough to sustain another flurry?
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#418311 - 10/09/11 09:11 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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I think the big wig big was just a front as all the big wigs went north on the water not on the road. I tend to think it was done for the taxis. Do any of the resorts north of Grande Caribe get any taxi service?
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#418313 - 10/09/11 09:54 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: ScubaLdy]
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I was at my place during the Central American conference last winter, held at the big Palapa at CocoBeach/BelizeanShores
I was under the impression the road was improved as a second means of egress, not as the primary. For security concerns of course. All Prime Ministers and aids seemed to arrive via water taxi.
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#418463 - 10/11/11 08:56 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Hi Folks, For those that live in rural areas and are familiar with gravel roads, you know that they have to be graded and maintained on a regular basis. If you want the roads crowned or just scraped, compacted, we can do whatever. It all comes down to the almighty $$$. I wouldn't count on a lot of help from the Town or Government at this time, although it is an election, so now would be the time to get some commitments from the candidates for what it's worth.
The politicians know that most of us can't vote, so I wouldn't hold out much hope. We are looked upon as rich non voting gringos.
I can grade the road once a year, twice a year six times a year etc, whatever the concencus is.
The Majority will have to be funded by private business and individuals. I plan to visit Grand Caribe, Captain Morgans, Las Terazzas, etc to see what interest is there. Obviously a pooled effort (no pun intended) will bring the cost down significantly.
I guess everyone will have to contimplate things like convienence, cost of repairs to your golf cart, boat, captain and fuel costs, your back, and how the bad road affects your business, if you have one.
Let me know if you are interested. An estimate carries no cost or obligation.
I also have a line on Solar Powered Street/ parking lot lamps if you are interested. They cost a bit initially but need zero electricity to run. THe only cost is the batteries need to be replaced every 4-6 years. they have a 25 year life span on the bulbs.
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#418545 - 10/12/11 04:45 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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They must know I vote because they are doing the canal area now.
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#418635 - 10/13/11 12:21 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Diane Campbell]
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I know some of the residents here vote but I was at one of Melanie Paz's Town hall meetings in San Mateo. I was the only Gringo there. No one expressed any views on roads or street lighting to the north. The roads in San Mateo and health care and emergency clinics were the topics of concern.
If no one mentions it to the politicians it won't be on the radar. Plus it's difficult to get them to think about roads north when San Mateo residents are still wading through swamps and using London bridges.
I spoke with Melanie, she has been not been able to see the town's books so she has no idea how much money the town has, or dosen't have.
I have lived here long enough to know that most Belizeans still think of us as Donald Trumps with bags of money.
For those who have been here long enough you know, If you want it done, you have to do it yourself. Just like the clean up campain north.
So unless you want to wait a zillion years for the roads to be paved and lights installed, this will have to be a self funded effort. The Town or Government might help by tax breaks or something small but don't expect major cash, it's just not going to happen right now.
Street lights vary but start at about700US and go up from there. I am trying to get them duty exempt from the GOB, but it sounds like one or two they won't but a whole bunch they might.
They are solar powered LED and come in 5 - 10 watt models. and throw a light equiviant to a 60 - 80 watt light bulb. How high you mount them will determine intensity and spread but in pitch darkness would be sufficient for the road north. it is recommended if you want full even lighting they are placed about 15 meters apart. ( Thats about 45 feet for you yanks). Mexico is using some of the AC powered LED lights for some of thier highways to cut down on energy comsumption.
LED lighting is the wave of the future, and for here would be the ideal solution. I am looking at lighting the marquee for the theater and this is the direction we are going to go.
So if anyone is interested I can PM you with what I have researched out but above is pretty much it in a nutshell.
If we can order a bunch one time I will try to get the GOB to let them in with little or no duty.
Let me know.
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#418637 - 10/13/11 12:43 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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One MAJOR consideration for any private-sector funded road improvement project is making sure what is being improved is actually "the road" and not what has come to be a cleared /traveled path that is actually on private property. As you get further north, much of the "road" was simply cleared being guided by the path of least resistance. It 'roughly' follows the power lines. A fair amount of it is actually on private land.
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#418641 - 10/13/11 02:19 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: SFJeff]
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Which is why it will have to be a group effort.
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#418648 - 10/13/11 05:07 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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What some of you may not understand is that those of us who LIVE north of the bridge is that we never wanted a bridge, a road and street lights. Most of these things are being rammed down our throats by people looking to make money - not a way of life.
I sat outside last night under the overcast and enjoyed the dark. Without light glare I could see clearly any activity. The locals I know prefer to ride in the absence of artificial light.
At one of the meetings about street lights as a deterrent to crime the question was asked “Has anyone been accosted in the dark on the north road?” The answer was “Not yet.”
On clear nights the skies are heavenly. Hey – but what do we know? We found peace and quiet and are reluctantly to loosing it.
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#418672 - 10/13/11 10:22 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Bear]
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In order to conserve power The street lights have motion sensors which turn on full when a person or vehicle approaches, most of the time they are at very low output equvilant to a small flashlight. These are not mercury vapor high intesity superhighway lights. These are low power 5 - 10 watt LED that at night is enough to light the pathway and deter lowlifes from using the cover of darkness. I seriously doubt they will affect your enjoyment of the night sky. Here is a link http://www.clean-energies.org/LED-Solar-Street-Light-8-Watts_p_143.htmlSecondly, It is not my intention to build roads, only to smooth out what is already there. I am certainly not ramming this down your throat as you say. Potholes and divits do not make a road more "earthy" or natural, they are a serious safety issue. They destroy golf carts and peoples backs, and contribute to cyclists doing faceplants onto the street. I don't know where you are getting your information, but people have been accosted on the North road. So what? We wait until another tourist is injured or maimed, or some young girl is raped before we do something? You need to do a serious reality check. Safety and security is not something that can be taken for granted. You do not want to meet the Devil.
Edited by Capt. Hollywood (10/14/11 12:54 AM) Edit Reason: link added
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#418737 - 10/14/11 10:27 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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"grading" the road up north is going to be a moot point once these rains are finally done. Need to change the title of this thread to "Road building on North Ambergris." Can't imagine there's much of a road left.
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#418814 - 10/14/11 03:45 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Diane Campbell]
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Hey - over at Venezia they are about to spend a fortune flooding a perfectly good piece of high ground ..... so I guess we can charge MORE for properties in the Rio Mata and Laguna Playa Blanca? Could work. evil grin. Oh man, Guess I screwed the pooch big time when i bought high and dry. In the words of the Guardian Knight of IJ and the Last Crusade, "He chose poorly..."
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#418962 - 10/16/11 03:14 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: ScubaLdy]
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What some of you may not understand is that those of us who LIVE north of the bridge is that we never wanted a bridge, a road and street lights. Most of these things are being rammed down our throats by people looking to make money - not a way of life.
I sat outside last night under the overcast and enjoyed the dark. Without light glare I could see clearly any activity. The locals I know prefer to ride in the absence of artificial light.
At one of the meetings about street lights as a deterrent to crime the question was asked “Has anyone been accosted in the dark on the north road?” The answer was “Not yet.”
On clear nights the skies are heavenly. Hey – but what do we know? We found peace and quiet and are reluctantly to loosing it. A. I've been up north at night a number of times, and your house, "Birdland," has the most brightly lit yard of any property up there. If even a quarter of the amount of light being emitted by your laser light show of a front yard was cast upon some of the darkest areas of Tres Cocos, there wouldn't even be a conversation about street lights. B. No one has been accosted on the dark road up north? Really? What about the fatal shooting a couple years back when two men tried to accost someone on the dark road up north? Are we not counting that for some reason? There's a lot of fear of change on this forum, without much regard for distinguishing between positive change and negative change. If you'd lived here at the time, you would probably would have complained when they ran power lines up north.
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#418992 - 10/16/11 04:02 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Wendell - I hope you enjoyed my lighted yard; I sure do. And most of my lights are colored bulbs and are pointed down. Also, I can turn then off anytime I want to and none of them affect the neighbors.
I may be wrong but I think the guys who jumped out of the bush and were shot by some city council members returning from a hunting trip happened in day light hours. Correct me if I am wrong.
Change is inevitable but I think the difference is in how change happens. When change is not discussed with the people it affects of course it is resisted. Anytime a government thinks it knows what the people really need is opposed to what they want there is sure to be discord. Sometimes the government is right but it always needs to listen and be prepared to be honest about why they want the change
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#418997 - 10/16/11 07:17 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: ScubaLdy]
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What some of you may not understand is that those of us who LIVE north of the bridge is that we never wanted a bridge, a road and street lights. Most of these things are being rammed down our throats by people looking to make money - not a way of life.
I sat outside last night under the overcast and enjoyed the dark. Without light glare I could see clearly any activity. The locals I know prefer to ride in the absence of artificial light.
At one of the meetings about street lights as a deterrent to crime the question was asked “Has anyone been accosted in the dark on the north road?” The answer was “Not yet.”
On clear nights the skies are heavenly. Hey – but what do we know? We found peace and quiet and are reluctantly to loosing it. HERE HERE, Harriette!!!
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#419000 - 10/16/11 07:59 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Diane Campbell]
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"Right" is the key word. We need a bridge that will safely carry a large load and a road that has drainage and is passable in all weather. The present bridge worked well for golf carts only and I am sure it is better to put in an all weather road than grading a nonexistent one with uncertain effects and questionable outcome. Without engineering of some sort it is not likely to achieve the results desired.
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#419002 - 10/16/11 08:40 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Diane Campbell]
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A wise person once said - "If it's not broken, don't fix it."
I for one am happy to have electricity and in fact paid for 1/2 mile of poles and lines to get it many years ago - no reimbursement from anybody, thanks very much. The lights are a whole different topic and it's not about being stick in the muds.
We also fought the bridge and the road, but the time has come for both of them for many reasons. We DO need to do it right though... I think the factor that's not being considered during many of these discussions is that regardless of what utilities this board deems necessary (or, more often, unnecessary), the island is changing and growing. And regardless of how much we resist that growth, more and more people are going to move here, more and more construction will start both north and south of town, and the existing infrastructure simply can't support that inevitable growth. I'm not saying that we should take out an ad in Islands Magazine and encourage more people to move here, but I do think we all need to accept the fact that the island is going to continue growing regardless, and we'll all be better served by building with that change in mind. Does that mean building better roads? Yes. Does it mean building a better bridge? Quite possibly. Will the patrons of this forums be opposed to it? Absolutely. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't benefit them.
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#419003 - 10/16/11 09:05 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Wendell]
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I wish I had said that.
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#419005 - 10/16/11 11:30 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Has anyone mentioned the barge companies that have big trucks running on our northern roads? Some suggest the resorts coming together and fixing the roads which have been done more than once just to have the big trucks destroy them again. Maybe the town board should have a look at that instead of the ATVs and golf carts that I don't see causing any damage. I'm sure many who travel the roads regularly bump into these trucks and the drivers just laugh while the wheels go into overdrive in the potholes that now look like cinotes
Edited by Alter Ego. (10/16/11 11:31 PM)
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#419006 - 10/16/11 11:48 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Alter Ego.]
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Has anyone mentioned the barge companies that have big trucks running on our northern roads? Some suggest the resorts coming together and fixing the roads which have been done more than once just to have the big trucks destroy them again. Maybe the town board should have a look at that instead of the ATVs and golf carts that I don't see causing any damage. I'm sure many who travel the roads regularly bump into these trucks and the drivers just laugh while the wheels go into overdrive in the potholes that now look like cinotes It is the resorts and large construction on the North Island that have the Big Trucks running on "your" roads. It will be ok soon, when the paved road cuts through a lot of the resorts and runs all the way to Mexico.....LOL 
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#419007 - 10/17/11 02:15 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Anyone who drives the North road knows it's not safe nor comfortable. I don't have to explain that. Proper North American standard roads are going to require engineers, surveys, lawyers, Town Council & Environmental aproval and one heck of a lot of money.
It's just not in the cards right now.
We have a road, a pathway. It's not going to go away. The toothpaste is out of the tube as they say. Will it be a proper road one day? Better roads & lighting increase property value, and are safer, so it's inevitable.
I have access to a grader, and some heavy equipment. I am not talking about engineering new roads, or bridges. There is a whole process for that.
I am talking about smoothing out the pathways and eliminating the potholes and making it as safe as reasonably possible and comforatable within a certain budget and limitations.
Before something tragic happens, lets all pitch in and fix the problems. I need everyone's co-operation and help with a budget.
I will have a preliminary security & safety report by early November prepared at PLS's expense.
We need a safe road. For reasons you may not have even thought of.
You don't want to be at the side of the road one night, screaming "WHERE THE HELL IS THE FIRE TRUCK????"
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#419025 - 10/17/11 11:23 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Wendell – etal
Let’s look at things like lighting the road in a reasonable fashion. Just as ACCSD is NOT against development we are just for SUSTAINABLE DEVLOPMENT. That would mean things like ‘first things first, etc.”
Of course we are going to have improvements, but let’s get our ducks in a row. Before street lights we need a street, before a street we need drainage, before drainage we need a sewer system, before we can build a sewer system we need a bridge that can handle the heavy equipment.
Before any of this can happen we need a government that will stand up to their responsibilities and do things like collect unpaid taxes, stop under the table deals and land give-a-ways.
We can all want a better way of life. What ever happened to the MASTER PLAN that has been paid for how many times?
Just because we ask questions and challenge proposals does not mean we are bad people. We can all get on the same page if we work together.
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#419041 - 10/17/11 03:21 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: carrottop642]
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Sounds like somebody is working hard to try to earn some money. Who are you? What is your company? I am Captain Hollywood, those who read this board reguarly, know who I am. I am a Canadian from Toronto Canada, also known as Hollywood North. Currently, we provide management and consultation for Paradise Theater and Paradise Location Support. PLS is a company which acts as logistical support, risk assesment and Security management, for visiting Film and Television crews. It is my job to safely and securely get all thier gear and equipment to, and prepare a location shoot. We are sort of like the Secret Service crew that sets everything up before the President arrives. I have worked doing this in such places as Jamiaca and Colombia. I have lived in Belize for 6 years and I am a permanant resident. I operated one of the largest and safest nightclubs in Belize City for the past five years near one of the roughest gangs turf in the city. I have seen and experienced the dark side of paradise and have had a gun shoved in my face on more than one occasion. If you think it can't happen here, or to you, you are in a serious state of denial. What you don't know is, every long weekend I see more and more known gangbangers, thieves and drug dealers from the city, coming to the Island to ply thier trade. I, unlike you, are not someone that signed onto the board yesterday, who probably drifts in and out of here for one or two weeks every year, and my one and only post is questioning someone else's integrity. I live here full time. This is my home, and I care about it. I DO NOT want to be the guy at the back of the room saying "I TOLD YOU SO"
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#419114 - 10/18/11 10:58 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Harriette has very valid ponts, but the truth is, you still have only a cart path and its need of constant repair is proof that no one in government is willing to address it. Someone has taken the first step to try and at least make it passable to all.
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#419122 - 10/18/11 11:42 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: ScubaLdy]
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Wendell – etal
Let’s look at things like lighting the road in a reasonable fashion. Just as ACCSD is NOT against development we are just for SUSTAINABLE DEVLOPMENT. That would mean things like ‘first things first, etc.”
Of course we are going to have improvements, but let’s get our ducks in a row. Before street lights we need a street, before a street we need drainage, before drainage we need a sewer system, before we can build a sewer system we need a bridge that can handle the heavy equipment.
Before any of this can happen we need a government that will stand up to their responsibilities and do things like collect unpaid taxes, stop under the table deals and land give-a-ways.
We can all want a better way of life. What ever happened to the MASTER PLAN that has been paid for how many times?
Just because we ask questions and challenge proposals does not mean we are bad people. We can all get on the same page if we work together. Just to make sure I'm following you, below are the five steps you've described as necessary before we can mount a couple of small lights on already existing telephone poles in the darkest stretches of road in Tres Cocos: - 1. Form a government that will stand up to their responsibilities and do things like collect unpaid taxes, stop under the table deals and land give-a-ways.
- 2. Build a new bridge that can handle the heavy equipment necessary to build roads.
- 3. Build a sewer system.
- 4. Build a drainage system that attaches to the sewer system.
- 5. Build a proper road, presumably made of concrete or asphalt.
- 6. Mount a couple of small lights on already existing telephone poles in the darkest stretches of road in Tres Cocos.
Alternatively, couldn't we just skip steps 1-5 and mount a couple of small lights on already existing telephone poles in the darkest stretches of road in Tres Cocos?
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#419133 - 10/18/11 01:52 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Carrottop, everything you say is true, but alas, if they (government) do not address the issue, who will? Ignoring the problem does not make the path smooth.
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#419143 - 10/18/11 05:08 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Wendell: Maybe you and I have been talking about two different issues. A FEW LIGHTS? What was asked for was lights close enough together to provide constant lighting from the bridge to Journey's end; and we, as property owners, should pony up the first years expense to SHOW the government our good intentions. Were you not aware of this?
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#419145 - 10/18/11 05:18 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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One more note, reliance on government is what is destroying the US today. Take the bull by the horns and get'er done!
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#419183 - 10/19/11 05:59 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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I have read this thread from the beginning, and how many twists and turns it has taken.
carrottop, yes I was a little offended by your post. Many of those who register for this forum the same day they post have hidden agendas.
Yes I use this post to advertise. so do many others, there is a section for that. I let people know what movies are playing, Mattheiu's and Average Joes lets everyone know what's for lunch etc etc
Welcome to 2011. This is the way we communicate, You make it sound like a crime.
You claim you have been monitoring this post for 4 years and you pipe in on road grading? Just last month a post got hijacked into illegal sausage wars so yes I question your motives.
Hariette, Scubaldy, Please read the posts carefully before jumping to conclusions and find a new source for your information. You are the most vocal about light pollution, yet those little colored lights you claim on your property are actually power sucking 150watt PAR lamps nailed onto trees.
From a simple post of hey what do you think of this idea?
I, Captain Hollywood! have somehow morphed into this evil developer/profiteer that wants to engineer roads and bridges and sewer systems and drainage rights! My master plan, is to light up the island like Disneyland, and I am using this board to spread my evil tyranny throughout the North!!
I guess thats more interesting than,
Hey, I'm going to be grading the road by the theater in November sometime. The grader will be out. I have noticed a lot of potholes up north and it's not safe nor comfortable. I can carry on north and smooth those out to. A lot faster and easier than by hand. I don't know how much it will cost right now, depends on road conditions et al. Willing to come out and talk and make it fair for all concerned. It will be more economical if we do it all at once and everyone pitches in.
Oh, by the way, I was looking at lights for the Theater Marquee and I came across these. Solar powered and easy to install. Would be good around here for property and security. I am going to be placing an order. Anyone else interested? Cheaper by the dozen. Maybe think about them for the dark stretches of the road, it's not safe at night.
WHAT ARE YOUR REAL INTENTIONS? WE NEED A STUDY FIRST!!! OH MY! ANOTHER MANGROVE KILLER! PLEASE POST YOUR RESUME AND RELEVANT QUALIFICATIONS FOR THIS MASSIVE DEVELOPMENT CAMPAIGN BEFORE ANY SERIOUS CONSIDERATION CAN BE GIVEN. Translation: I'm not payin' for that.
For those of you who are laughing right now, thank you for your support.
For those of you who are insulted
A preliminary report is being prepared, It will be ready early November. Copies will be available.
Until then, I Remain,
Please make all cheques payable to CAPTAIN HOLLYWOOD EVIL LORD AND DEVINE CONQUERER OF NORTH AMBERGRIS CAYE!!!!!
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#419241 - 10/19/11 02:12 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Amanda Syme]
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Captain Hollywood for Mayor! For that last post? at least standup comedian of the week!! apply humor liberally until done...
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#419445 - 10/21/11 03:22 PM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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Have any alternative solutions ever been looked at for the roads? It seems that the traditional method of sand/gravel/limestone does not fair up well to the varying weather the island is exposed to. There are solutions out there that would pay for themselves many times over, in terms of savings on the ongoing maintenance costs.
To build a proper non-sealed road with sand/limestone, you need a well graded material to ensure their is small size particles to act as binder for the larger particles. Problem is this "fines" wash away during rainy season. What they need to do is stabilize the fines with an ionic solution. This will hold the road together for +15 years.
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#419832 - 10/26/11 03:11 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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The road in front of Reef Village is now the responsibility of the Reef Village Homeowners Association.
We were preparing the road for grading by the theater but will wait until this storm passes and the water table recedes. Otherwise all our work, time and money would have been for nothing.
The grader will be out as soon as the soil is dry enough. If you want it can carry north as far as Las Terazzas.
If we can get a 75% response rate from the residents between the bridge and Las Terazzas, we can lower the cost of grading to $2 belize per foot. This would be based on your frontage. We feel this is a fair price and will compensate for any gaps such as empty lots and absentee owners. So for example if your property frontage is 50 feet on the roadside your contribution would be 50 x $2 = $100bz.
This price includes fuel, operator, sideman, and all taxes and surcharges which is a very good deal. Everyone who uses the North road should contribute.
How much is your comfort worth? your back? the repairs on your golf cart? muddy shoes and clothes, your time, not to mention response time for emergency services. Think about it. I'll be around shortly.
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#419859 - 10/26/11 09:46 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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The road in front of Reef Village is NOT now or has it ever been the responsibility of the Reef Village Homeowners Association . The company/developer who built it is responsible for it's condition . It is NOT a part of the parcel of land that the Homeowners association oversees. According to the S.P.T.C. it is a trail and not their problem , so the Paradise Theater and the owners of the large open commercial lot and the other owners who's property fronts this trail can ALL pitch in to get several bids to have this filled with proper aggregate as a base ,to a proper elevation so the rain water has some place to drain.Get the facts correct this trail is NOT the responsibility of the Reef Village Homeowners Association , period!!!
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#419899 - 10/26/11 11:58 AM
Re: Road Grading on North Ambergris.
[Re: Capt. Hollywood]
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I will grade the road North for free. After these past rains, I give it a "D" Sounds like a better deal! Stand up guy! This was posted by SF Jeff at the beginning of the thread. This is a kind gesture for all. A good reason to patronize his business! Azul Resort.
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