I'd just as soon avoid the prickly aspect of the thread entirely and take Gaz's example to heart...I now realise that Ernie's offer to enter into a joint venture with me on my next visit to the Caye was a bit off the mark as true joint ventures go. He proposed that for my part I'd provide the capital and he'd provide the drinking talent...in concept this appeared okay but in practice the marketable product ended up a bit hazy...

no chance of a return other that the joy of watching Ernie's joy as he consumes one after the other
Gaz

You're all wrong!!! Joint Venture is code for selling marijuana.