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#438029 - 05/15/12 05:38 PM Re: John McAfee Roughed Up By GSU [Re: BewitchedbyBeliz]
SnowWhite5080 Offline
Originally Posted By: BewitchedbyBeliz
I am naive as to the ways of the world of drug manufacturing, be antibodies antiseptics or whatever, but what does sudafed have to to with it? and who is the we? who has the three containers ? and who was the shipment going to ?
does anybody know this?
So sorry that Miss Matilda and Mr. Richards have now been charged with bribery, especially if they were acting in Mr. McAfee's behalf, although, it is understandable that Mr. McAfee would be uncomfortable after the recent siege on his compound.
Is this just the "Way of the Jungle and Primal Jungle Games? ... It sounds like the plot of the new Disney Film ,"Chimpanzee"? Primal Wanker Wars...Who's has the biggest guns or coconuts, most cash or bananas, and the biggest d#%&$ to service the youngest and most fertile females of the Jungle
If the reports of a 17 year old girlfriend, are true, even if she " got her age" she has fathers, brothers , cousins... who may feel like she needs protection from the bewitching King of the Jungle and therefor feel compelled to raid the neighboring monkey pod.
I believe that Mr. McAffee gave a deadline of yesterday for an apology from the Powers that Be or else he would speak to the US press. I see no new major Press outlet reports today from CNN, CBS, NBC other than was reported to the AP by Mr. Mc.Afee several days ago . Perhaps he is planning a surprise attack? or is he being restrained for doing so?
I wish Mr. McAfee well, those who know him seem to speak highly of him. Regardless of his intents, be it gifts or bribery, he has increased the cash flow into the Belize economy substantially . His gifts almost equal the GNP.


Thank you for this. I needed a good laugh and you have a wonderful way with writing.

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#438162 - 05/17/12 09:49 AM Re: John McAfee Roughed Up By GSU [Re: Marty]
Marty Offline

McAfee Says He's Through With the Local Press

John McAfee says he's going global in his pubic relations fight against the Government of Belize. As we've reported McAfee's Orange Walk Estate was searched by the GSU 15 days ago - and since then there have been a number of claims and counterclaims between him and the GSU.

Recently, the GSU charged three persons for trying to buy informants for McAfee within the GSU.

Well, the 66 year old issued a rather haughty statement today saying, quote, "As of noon, today….I will no longer be speaking to the Belizean press the dialog between myself and the Government of Belize deserves a larger stage, and a press that is not aligned with local politics….it is time for cooler heads to consider our dialog, and time for a larger audience."

And so, this morning - in case you didn't quite hear the church bells chiming, or feel the earth shaking - McAfee gave an interview to a weblog called Gizmodo.

He says he will be following up with more interviews over the next few weeks - we'll tell you when he breaks out of the blogosphere.

Channel 7


U.S National John McAfee Says He Will No Longer Speak With Belizean Media

It took place about a week ago and the tension between U.S national John McAfee and the Gang Suppression Unit is still on edge. On May 1ST the GSU raided McAfee’s Residence here in Orange Walk and detained him and his employees for more than 14 hours. McAfee was then taken to Belize City and released until 1:30 on Tuesday morning without any charges after the intervention of the U.S Embassy. In recent news, Matilda Garnett, a second class clerk of Belize City, Police Constable Darius Martinez of Orange Walk and ex-cop Rodwell Richards were all charged for attempt to corrupt an officer and were labeled as affiliates of McAfee. The charge is derived from the attempt to bribe Police Constables Adrian Lopez and Stacy Humes to get information on an investigation being carried by the GSU against McAfee.

After the three public officers were charged, all attempts to get McAfee for comment proved futile. But yesterday the U.S National fired off a press release in which he states that GSU Commander Marco Vidal and his unit remain persistent in their attempts to discredit him. Of course he is referring to a press release issued by the Gang Suppression Unit on Friday May 11th which made all allegations that Richards was McAfee’s right hand man. McAfee makes claim that he serves no relationship to Garnett and that Richards, who is clearly his friend, has never been asked to provide any information pertaining the activities of the GSU. In the press release McAfee goes on to ask, “Why is the Gang Suppression Unit, whose purpose is to suppress gang activity, be spending time, money and resources pursuing a minor misdemeanor charge allegedly involving business people?” He then proceeds by making a solemn remark stating that there are serious crimes being committed by gangs which the GSU should be suppressing. Finally he makes all suggestion that the name GSU be changed to BSU meaning Business Suppression Unit. Today when we contacted McAfee for comment he told us he will not be making any further comments to the Belizean Media.

And that’s exactly what McAfee states in press release he issued late this evening. In the short release the U.S National makes mention that as of noon today he will no longer be speaking to the Belizean press. The release further states and we quote “This morning I gave my first interview to the outside press. I chose to give my first interview to Matt Honan, senior reporter for Gizmodo, because Matt is fair and balanced, and Gizmodo has a readership of ten million people, in 7 languages. I will be following up with additional interviews over the next few weeks with additional publications. The story will appear tomorrow, May 17th if scheduling permits.” End of quote.

According to McAfee he is choosing not to speak to the Belizean press because he believes that the dialog between himself and the Government of Belize deserves a larger stage, and a press that is not aligned with local politics. McAfee does admit that the Belizean press has by and large treated him fairly, but it is time for cooler heads to consider dialog, and time for a larger audience.

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#438182 - 05/17/12 10:47 AM Re: John McAfee Roughed Up By GSU [Re: Marty]
pamkillen Offline
Oh Please!!!!

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#438184 - 05/17/12 10:53 AM Re: John McAfee Roughed Up By GSU [Re: pamkillen]
Ernie B Offline
AMEN !
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#438189 - 05/17/12 11:23 AM Re: John McAfee Roughed Up By GSU [Re: Marty]
Phil Offline
Well that's him done in Belize, if he knows it or not.

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#438194 - 05/17/12 11:54 AM Re: John McAfee Roughed Up By GSU [Re: Marty]
Katie Valk Offline
Prudent move would have been to hire Eamon Courtaney or Denys Barrow and deal with this the right way thru local legal channels. But perhaps that was not an alternative, as there is more to the story than what is public.
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#438257 - 05/17/12 09:41 PM Re: John McAfee Roughed Up By GSU [Re: Katie Valk]
Bear Offline
Originally Posted By: Katie Valk
...perhaps that was not an alternative, as there is more to the story than what is public.


No doubt, but I agree with the assessment to use local expertise whenever possible.

With respect to his statement about speaking to the Belizean press it always astounds me how so many smart people in this world have so little common sense.

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#438839 - 05/25/12 09:29 AM Re: John McAfee Roughed Up By GSU [Re: Marty]
Marty Offline
John McAfee’s story makes it to the Gizmodo Blog

About three weeks ago, the GSU raided the property of Anti-Virus Founder John McAfee near the toll bridge in Orange Walk. The incident was widely reported in Belize and the report went viral in US networks. McAfee initially gave interviews to the local media, but then said he wouldn’t anymore and that he was launching his plight internationally. Well, he has and the widely read Gizmodo, a technology weblog about consumer electronics, has published the account of McAfee’s story. He alleges that the GSU killed his dog, seized his passport, and arrested him on a bogus weapons charge. McAfee claims that his forceful arrest was motivated by his refusal to donate money to a crooked politician. McAfee has launched a legal battle against the Gang Suppression Unit. Gizmodo It is recognized for its up-to-date coverage of the technology industry and has been launched in a number of countries, including Australia, Britain and Brazil, where it has huge followings.

Channel 5

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#438840 - 05/25/12 09:30 AM Re: John McAfee Roughed Up By GSU [Re: Marty]
Marty Offline

Some of this is a little bit far fetched if you ask me....

Meth Labs and Dead Dogs: How the Founder of McAfee Antivirus Went on the Run in Belize

Gizmodo

It's been a while since I've posted anything. "I've been busy" is everyone's excuse for laziness, but I can't come up with a better one. For those of you who follow the news in Central America, you will know that I am in hiding in an undisclosed location in Belize. Hiding out is no fun. I've always wondered why people on the run turn themselves in in many cases. I now know the answer - boredom.

I am in a one room house in an uninteresting location. I have not been outdoors for 5 days. I have no cable or satellite TV and I have three DVDs - "The Human Stain", "Tierra" and "Naked". I have no books. I do have an Ipad but no charger. They are difficult to get in this country. I have 21% charge remaining - I have been rationing. Since, in the end, The only person you can trust is yourself, I have had no contact with anyone other than telephone interviews with the press.

The Gsu have issued additional charges but have not divulged what they might be. Having spent one night already sleeping on the concrete floor of the Beluze City jail I am not excited about the prospect of returning. Yes, there are no beds in belize jails. Or toilets. A half cut milk carton serves the purpose. It was tolerable until one A.M. when a drunk was added to the cell and he immediately kicked over the container. Five of us slept crowded together in the least contaminated corner. I was out before dawn so I shouldn't complain.

My lawyers tell me there is absolutely nothing to worry about, so that makes me very worried. They will be negotiating with the government today, if all goes well.

I'm down to 17% charge. I will leave you.

John McAfee, the founder of McAfee Antivirus, posted this to a private message board on May 7th; his home in Belize had just been raided by local law enforcement, he'd been rousted from the bed he shared with a 17 year old woman, naked and confused, to discover Belize's Gang Suppression Unit at his gates. They shot and killed his dog, and arrested him for possessing an illegal firearm. They arrested a few of his employees too. He went on the lam.

You might've heard the news reports; this is his side of the story.

Buckle up. It's crazy.

McAfee is most famous for creating the antivirus software you know so well. But that was another life. Another time. After cashing out of the software business, he went on to found a company that attempted to launch a next generation antibiotic (of uncertain effectiveness) headquartered in Belize. That company cratered when its chief scientist left. But McAfee stayed behind, operating a ferry and a bar. He had, in a literal sense, gone to the woods.

And then, on the morning of May 4, he awoke to the sound of bullhorns.

"I jumped out of bed, I'm naked, I ran out on the porch where I could see troops with automatic weapons and in their assault stance, the low walk, definitely agressive hostile movement," he said via telephone from an undisclosed location in Belize. "I went inside, puts some pants on, came back out and was shoved up against the wall. And that began my day. As I was being handcuffed I could see out of the corner of my eye the fire axes with which they were busting down doors—which were not locked by the way—and ransacking."

The motivation behind the raid on McAfee's home still aren't completely clear. According to McAfee, the warrant claimed he was operating a meth lab; but no one in an official capacity with the government of Belize will confirm that—or even that there was a raid, for that matter. We spent hours on the phone trying to find out what happened, bouncing from one police official to another—from a terribly reluctant and somewhat suspicious police sergeant, to an extremely reticent and annoyed police press officer, to an eager-to-get-off-the-phone and highly aggravated assistant police commissioner. Despite the very basic nature of the questions nobody would provide answers. Even Belize's Embassy in Washington D.C. was unhelpful.

The one person in an official law enforcement capacity willing to talk was only willing to do so off the record, and only on a conversation held on his "burner" cell phone that made it impossible to verify his identity. And all he was willing to say was that McAfee had been arrested and that a firearms charge was still under investigation. Which of course, we already knew.

There is, perhaps, a likely explanation for all this reluctance to say anything.

"All the phones in Belize are tapped. All telephone conversations are recorded and kept for two years. This conversation is being recorded as we speak," McAfee said. This sounds like the paranoia of a man who had recently been incarcerated, but is—believe it or not—actually quite plausible. Whether or not the government is actually listening, it has put legal mechanisms in place that certainly would enable it to do so. In short, nobody's talking.

So welcome to Belize. Meet your guide: John McAfee.

Now, look, John McAfee is a weird guy. Let's get that out of the way. He's wiry and covered in tribal tattoos and lives in the jungle, for crying out loud. He's had some dubious business ventures, and is possibly living abroad to hide from a lawsuit here in the States. Yet while McAfee may not be the world's most reliable narrator, he is also not a meth-lab operator. And in any case, he has a hell of a tale.

"I was arrested and charged with the possession of an illegal firearm," McAfee told us, "but I had licenses for all the others, nine or ten, why would I choose not to license one of them? And in any case, my people found the original paperwork, took it down to the station, and even then they didn't let me out. It required the intervention of the U.S. Embassy to get them to drop the charges and release me. The following day [the police] issued a statement saying I was running an illegal antibiotics laboratory—in the third world such a thing is a serious crime, the drug companies don't particularly like people interfering with their business. But basically what I developed is a topical antiseptic. They did not charge me for that. That's what they claimed was my meth lab."

So why did the police go looking for a meth lab on McAfee's property in the first place? Nobody who knows is talking, which just leaves room for a bunch of Yankee speculation.

"I don't have any general information about his case," says Eric Heyden, public affairs officer for the American Embassy in Belize, "I am as perplexed and confused as you are as to why the gang suppression unit would be taking action about a private American citizen."

According to Heyden, gangs are a real and serious problem, especially in Belize City, where people are routinely shot in inter-gang conflict. The GSU is a reaction to that, formed in 2010 to try to combat the growing violence in this country of 300,000.

Yet there is ample evidence that it is now taking part in extra-judicial activities. Heyden told about a recent arrest where the suspect died in custody, allegedly breaking his neck while trying to escape before an autopsy revealed he had been beaten to death. The media in Belize has accused the unit of random acts of violence, and of being an enforcement arm of a political party, the United Democratic Party. McAfee sees a connection.

"I did not donate to a local politician and he was very irate," he explains. "it was simply a message saying ‘look don't mess with us and when we ask you for something, give it to us.'"

McAfee is in limbo. He's not in hiding any longer, but he also hasn't returned home and, in his words, is keeping a low profile. There is, very literally, no telling what will come next. Fitzroy Yearwood, the press officer for the police force in Belize, refused to answer any questions other than via email, and failed to reply to those submitted in writing. Attempts to reach anyone in the government who could answer questions as to why the raid went down, or what was coming next were unsuccessful. Requests to speak to GSU boss Marco Vidal, or Belize Police Commissioner Gerald Westby were refused.

For his part, McAfee is fighting. "I don't back down from things," says McAfee. "I'm 66 years old, my life is very dull normally."

Bullshit. Of all the things McAfee's life may be, dull is not one of them


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#438858 - 05/25/12 10:57 AM Re: John McAfee Roughed Up By GSU [Re: Marty]
Katie Valk Offline
Hiding in plain sight then on Ambergris Caye, dining out in public, where, there is electric, internet, satelitte tv and cable, and operational as long as you pay your bills for their usage. And any of those restaurants have power to recharge an ipad and there are scores and scores of people on the caye with ipad chargers to borrow from. Sounding like a script for a bad movie to me. John, let me be neighborly and generous with good advice; hire either Eammon Courtenay or Denys Barrow as attorneys to guide you thru this. You'll accomplish much more working thru the system here than whining on internet to people who can't do a thing to resolve this issue. And if you really need a place to stay with power, internet, cable, etc, I'll be more than happy to book you at any one of many room options anywhere in Belize at my cost, less my commission. They call the jail in Belize City the [#%!] House for a reason. I've been (as a visitor) and would not want to spend a night there. I think thats one of the few places in Belize without internet, cable tv and outlets to recharge ipads.
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