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#438566 - 05/22/12 01:36 PM Re: The Road North [Re: Gaz Cooper]
Mike Campbell Offline
My point always is the pressure needs to be on the govt to fix the road not put the pressure on us to allow illegal vehicles in front of our businesses, nice wedding on the beach with passing motorcycles? I have had many tourists tell me how great it is that there are no motorcycles on the beach as they will not return to some places they have visited because of the motorcycles on the beach. I always tried to accommodate when the road was bad and kept mine passable at all times. But after the road dries up they dont want to go back there unless you "encourage" them.

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#438574 - 05/22/12 02:29 PM Re: The Road North [Re: elbert]
elbert Offline
I found if being chased by a dog you just stop, it confuses the hell out of the dog! It totally spoils it for them.
I'm glad we all see that the road is important. There are a lot of really great folks that have given time and money to improving it. I'm hoping the new mayor kicks in soon.
Its raining buckets still and I need to go to town so heads up folks!
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#438577 - 05/22/12 03:15 PM Re: The Road North [Re: elbert]
Amanda Syme Offline
Yes the road north should be a priority along with street lights.

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#438578 - 05/22/12 03:20 PM Re: The Road North [Re: elbert]
ScubaLdy Offline
My observation has been the faster you go the more likely the dogs are to chase you. When you slow down to a crawl they do not feel so threatened and seem to back off. -- But -- heck that is only my opinion.
When I've gone north to the east west road I feel soooo guilty driving through some of the front yards just before I get to Indigo. I go as slow and carefully as I can but really wish there were a better way.
BTW How did someone manage to build such an excellent road across the wet lands to get to Grand Belice Estates
It is very well built and high above the water line.
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#438591 - 05/22/12 05:49 PM Re: The Road North [Re: ScubaLdy]
Mike Campbell Offline
Dogs chasing people and golf carts and bicycles is dangerous and a hazard and I have had more than one tourist complain about the dogs and I have had two bad experiences with unrestrained dogs in the last two months.
Keep your dog under control or dont be surprised when something happens to it.


Edited by Mike Campbell (05/22/12 05:51 PM)

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#438597 - 05/22/12 06:30 PM Re: The Road North [Re: Mike Campbell]
Ernie B Offline
Gee, that sounds like a threat.
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#438605 - 05/22/12 07:43 PM Re: The Road North [Re: ScubaLdy]
Capt. Hollywood Offline
Originally Posted By: ScubaLdy
BTW How did someone manage to build such an excellent road across the wet lands to get to Grand Belice Estates
It is very well built and high above the water line.


The roads to GBE look like they were properly engineered and built. High crowned hardcore with culverts. The culverts and the hard core are the key. I know the road well after my experience with it last year.
The North road is a carved out path following the BEL Right of way. Some hardcore has been put down in patches by the big resorts but it really is a dogs breakfast.

Portions of the road need to be raised and properly engineered, It can be done.

I just met with the Mayor on this issue. There is no funding for the North road, however he is not opposed to doing what we did last year and having the residents fund road maintainance/improvements. He said he MAY be able to help with machinery and manpower.

One thing is we can't just keep grading, it will eventually lower the roadbed too much. We need to lay down hardcore and culverts in places.

There is only one place where you HAVE to drive the beach because there is no alternative.

The homes on the beach between Journeys end and Indigo would have to fund a link following the BEL Right of way from where the road curves to the beach to where the power lines meet up with the GBE Road. Otherwise there is no alternative but to drive on the beach.

So, The Captain is here for you and asks, who's in for a monthly maintainance fee and how much are you willing to pay? The more who pitch in the lower the per household cost.

All that money and effort putting up traps and barricades could better be used to improve the road

Wouldn't you say?

Start posting North people!!!!







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#438607 - 05/22/12 10:27 PM Re: The Road North [Re: elbert]
SFJeff Offline
Problem is, the "road" does not always follow the BEL right of way.

...and that existing right of way is changing, as BEL is up this way surveying for their new lines. Take a look at where THOSE lines are surveyed and you'll realize what an incredible task building the road will be

The existing "road" ALREADY has been built and maintained by the residents here. The amount of $$$ you're suggesting the private sector chip in to constantly maintain it and bridge the gaps would be EXTRAORDINARY... Maybe there is "no funding for the road north" because, as declared on paper by the GOB, there IS NO ROAD NORTH.

Here's an idea... take a boat.

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#438613 - 05/23/12 12:37 AM Re: The Road North [Re: SFJeff]
Capt. Hollywood Offline
Yes Jeff, I know, I coordinated the last effort to grade the road to Captain Morgans.
It will not be extrodinarily expensive if everyone pitches in.
Once it is well built it will take less $$ to maintain. No it won't get done overnight, but can be done in stages.

I have been patroling the road and most of it is passable except for a few low spots and a real bad patch around Portafinos.

You are correct, the road does not always follow the BEL ROW. BEL needs a road to maintain the lines so they are going to build it anyway.

Part of the existing road may cut through your private property, but the alternative is the reserve.. yes THE BEACH and we all know how everyone feels about that.


SO Hey here's an idea, how about we all work together with mutual respect and co-operation, and try and solve the problems instead of creating more.

Unfortunately, some people here have the last man in syndrome.

I'm here, I've got my property, now close the Island and no more development.
Unfortunately this does not work in the real world.




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#438630 - 05/23/12 08:08 AM Re: The Road North [Re: Mike Campbell]
Diane Campbell Offline
Originally Posted By: Mike Campbell
Dogs chasing people and golf carts and bicycles is dangerous and a hazard and I have had more than one tourist complain about the dogs and I have had two bad experiences with unrestrained dogs in the last two months.
Keep your dog under control or dont be surprised when something happens to it.

Ernie, Mike isn't even up this way any more - this doesn't read like a threat from him - more like a warning (based on experience) to people who do not take proper care of their dogs. Dogs that chase may end up getting hurt or poisoned. The owners who let their dogs run and chase are endangering their dogs.

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