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#486985 - 02/27/14 11:07 PM Greenpeace co-founder: No man-made global warming
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Greenpeace co-founder: No scientific evidence of man-made global warming

There is no scientific evidence that human activity is causing the planet to warm, according to Greenpeace co-founder Patrick Moore, who testified in front of a Senate committee on Tuesday.

Moore argued that the current argument that the burning of fossil fuels is driving global warming over the past century lacks scientific evidence. He added that the Earth is in an unusually cold period and some warming would be a good thing.

“There is no scientific proof that human emissions of carbon dioxide (CO2) are the dominant cause of the minor warming of the Earth’s atmosphere over the past 100 years,” according to Moore’s prepared testimony. “Today, we live in an unusually cold period in the history of life on earth and there is no reason to believe that a warmer climate would be anything but beneficial for humans and the majority of other species.”

“It is important to recognize, in the face of dire predictions about a [two degrees Celsius] rise in global average temperature, that humans are a tropical species,” Moore said. “We evolved at the equator in a climate where freezing weather did not exist. The only reasons we can survive these cold climates are fire, clothing, and housing.”

“It could be said that frost and ice are the enemies of life, except for those relatively few species that have evolved to adapt to freezing temperatures during this Pleistocene Ice Age,” he added. “It is ‘extremely likely’ that a warmer temperature than today’s would be far better than a cooler one.”

Indeed, cold weather is more likely to cause death than warm weather. RealClearScience reported that from “1999 to 2010, a total of 4,563 individuals died from heat, but 7,778 individuals died from the cold.” Only in 2006 did heat-related deaths outnumber cold deaths.

In Britain, 24,000 people are projected to die this winter because they cannot afford to pay their energy bills. Roughly 4.5 million British families are facing “fuel poverty.”

“The fact that we had both higher temperatures and an ice age at a time when CO2 emissions were 10 times higher than they are today fundamentally contradicts the certainty that human-caused CO2 emissions are the main cause of global warming,” Moore said.

“When modern life evolved over 500 million years ago, CO2 was more than 10 times higher than today, yet life flourished at this time,” he added. “Then an Ice Age occurred 450 million years ago when CO2 was 10 times higher than today.”

Moore, a Canadian, helped found the environmental activist group Greenpeace in the 1970s. He left the group after they began to take on more radical positions. He has since been a critic of radical environmentalism and heads up the group Ecosense Environmental in Vancouver, Canada.

Moore’s comments come after President Obama declared global warming a “fact” in the State of the Union. His administration has attempted to argue that the recent U.S. cold snap was influenced by a warmer planet.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/02/25/greenp.../#ixzz2ub8uUqrO
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#487097 - 03/01/14 07:59 AM Re: Greenpeace co-founder: No man-made global warming [Re: Short]
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well i wunder who bought him.... so tell me then... where did the ice go? ice pirates from the black pearl i presume....
ask the polar bears.....
first they gave us internal combustion hydrocarbon engines... then microwave/radio to warm it up even quicker... melt the ice.. pump water.... sell ice.... ice pirates twice...laughing all the weigh to the intergalactick bank

Edited by king kong (03/01/14 08:02 AM)

#487100 - 03/01/14 08:57 AM Re: Greenpeace co-founder: No man-made global warming [Re: king kong]
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King kong, yer bein a ding dong.
Reality is only an illusion that occurs due to a lack of alcohol

#487150 - 03/01/14 07:10 PM Re: Greenpeace co-founder: No man-made global warming [Re: king kong]
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Originally Posted By: king kong
well i wunder who bought him.... so tell me then... where did the ice go?

Where did what ice go? The 2013 Arctic summer has left 533,000 more square miles of ocean covered with ice than at the same time in 2012 – an increase of 29%.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...ws-29-year.html

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#487158 - 03/01/14 09:25 PM Re: Greenpeace co-founder: No man-made global warming [Re: Short]
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How thick is the ice?

#487213 - 03/02/14 02:31 PM Re: Greenpeace co-founder: No man-made global warming [Re: SimonB]
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Originally Posted By: SimonB
How thick is the ice?

I don't know and I am not a scientist. All I can do is quote the experts:

US climate expert Professor Judith Curry said last night: ‘In fact, the uncertainty is getting bigger. It’s now clear the models are way too sensitive to carbon dioxide. I cannot see any basis for the IPCC increasing its confidence level.’

She pointed to long-term cycles in ocean temperature, which have a huge influence on climate and suggest the world may be approaching a period similar to that from 1965 to 1975, when there was a clear cooling trend. This led some scientists at the time to forecast an imminent ice age.

Professor Anastasios Tsonis, of the University of Wisconsin, was one of the first to investigate the ocean cycles. He said: ‘We are already in a cooling trend, which I think will continue for the next 15 years at least. There is no doubt the warming of the 1980s and 1990s has stopped.

‘The IPCC claims its models show a pause of 15 years can be expected. But that means that after only a very few years more, they will have to admit they are wrong.’

Others are more cautious. Dr Ed Hawkins, of Reading University, drew the graph published by The Mail on Sunday in March showing how far world temperatures have diverged from computer predictions. He admitted the cycles may have caused some of the recorded warming, but insisted that natural variability alone could not explain all of the temperature rise over the past 150 years.

Nonetheless, the belief that summer Arctic ice is about to disappear remains an IPCC tenet, frequently flung in the face of critics who point to the pause.

Yet there is mounting evidence that Arctic ice levels are cyclical. Data uncovered by climate historians show that there was a massive melt in the 1920s and 1930s, followed by intense re-freezes that ended only in 1979 – the year the IPCC says that shrinking began.

Professor Curry said the ice’s behaviour over the next five years would be crucial, both for understanding the climate and for future policy. ‘Arctic sea ice is the indicator to watch,’ she said.

Quotes from above mentioned article.

My conclusion is that we, humans, don't understand what drives climate on earth and the effect of our activity on earth yet. What we are seeing can be part of a natural cycle. As such I fully support a more sustainable way of living and alternative energy sources.
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