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#508950 - 11/07/15 07:25 PM GLOBAL COOLING: Ice Age due to solar hibernation
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GLOBAL COOLING: Decade long ice age predicted as sun 'hibernates'

SCIENTISTS claim we are in for a decade-long freeze as the sun slows down solar activity by up to 60 per cent.

By JON AUSTIN
PUBLISHED: 03:07, Thu, Nov 5, 2015 | UPDATED: 08:26, Thu, Nov 5, 2015


A team of European researchers have unveiled a scientific model showing that the Earth is likely to experience a “mini ice age” from 2030 to 2040 as a result of decreased solar activity.

Their findings will infuriate environmental campaigners who argue by 2030 we could be facing increased sea levels and flooding due to glacial melt at the poles.

However, at the National Astronomy Meeting in Wales, Northumbria University professor Valentina Zharkova said fluctuations an 11-year cycle of solar activity the sun goes through would be responsible for a freeze, the like of which has not been experienced since the 1600s.

From 1645 to 1715 global temperatures dropped due to low solar activity so much that the planet experienced a 70-year ice age known as Maunder Minimum which saw the River Thames in London completely frozen.



The researchers have now developed a "double dynamo "model that can better predict when the next freeze will be.

Based on current cycles, they predict solar activity dwindling for ten years from 2030.

Professor Zharkova said two magnetic waves will cancel each other out in about 2030, leading to a drop in sun spots and solar flares of about 60 per cent.

Sunspots are dark concentrations of magnetic field flux on the surface that reduce surface temperature in that area, while solar flares are burst of radiation and solar energy that fire out across the solar system, but the Earth's atmosphere protects us from the otherwise devastating effects.

She said: "In cycle 26, the two waves exactly mirror each other, peaking at the same time but in opposite hemispheres of the Sun.

"We predict that this will lead to the properties of a ‘Maunder minimum.



“Over the cycle, the waves fluctuate between the Sun’s northern and southern hemispheres. Combining both waves together and comparing to real data for the current solar cycle, we found that our predictions showed an accuracy of 97 per cent."

Research colleagues Simon Shepherd of Bradford University, Helen Popova of Lomonosov Moscow State University and Sergei Zarkhov of the University of Hull used magnetic field observations from 1976 to 2008 at the Wilcox Solar Observatory at Stanford University.

A Royal Astronomical Society spokesman said: "It is 172 years since a scientist first spotted that the Sun’s activity varies over a cycle lasting around 10 to 12 years.

"But every cycle is a little different and none of the models of causes to date have fully explained fluctuations."

The “double dynamo” theory appears to support claims of researchers who argue Earth will soon experience major global cooling due to lower solar activity as the sun goes into a sustained period of hibernation.

Environmentalists meanwhile claim global temperatures will increase over the period unless we drastically reduce carbon emissions.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/61...-sun-hibernates
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#508954 - 11/08/15 01:30 AM Re: GLOBAL COOLING: Ice Age due to solar hibernation [Re: Short]
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You don't UNDERSTAND.. The mantra hasn't been global warming for some time... It has been "climate change" for many years. The other thing you don't understand is that it is politically incorrect to believe in anything other than windmills and solar... Once you understand all that, life is simple. Oil and gas are evil.. Much cheaper, but evil..


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#508955 - 11/08/15 05:37 AM Re: GLOBAL COOLING: Ice Age due to solar hibernation [Re: Shyboy]
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Originally Posted By Shyboy
You don't UNDERSTAND.. The mantra hasn't been global warming for some time... It has been "climate change" for many years. The other thing you don't understand is that it is politically incorrect to believe in anything other than windmills and solar... Once you understand all that, life is simple. Oil and gas are evil.. Much cheaper, but evil..


You don't understand... this article, not my opinion, has got nothing to do with oil, gas, wind or solar energy. It is about the activity of the sun, nothing here on earth. These scientists think they found a model to predict solar activity and think there could be a hibernation of the sun in the near future (2030 to 2040), possibly causing mini ice age like the one from 1645 to 1715.
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#508971 - 11/08/15 10:58 PM Re: GLOBAL COOLING: Ice Age due to solar hibernation [Re: Short]
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What this article does point out is that there are influences, many probably, which effect the temperature on earth which are way beyond man's control. Whether that be increasing the temperature or decreasing the temperature.

The use of fossil fuels may have absolutely no significance at all to global temperatures however the use of expensive substitutes for no reason could keep millions in poverty or at lease a lower standard of living for no good reason at all. Climate change has taken on a religious status which punishes anyone who disagrees with it and shuts out reasonable debate. Doesn't it make sense that if wind and solar where so inexpensive that the market place would have demanded it's use. It is only because of government subsidies and coercion that it is used to any degree today. Someday in the future people will laugh at the useless measures that caused such waste which could have been directed in much more productive ways.

Yes, there is climate change, what a revelation! The world may get warmer or it may get cooler but how man can have any effect on that is very debatable. Personally I think it would be much easier to adapt to climate warming than climate cooling. But whatever, to think that man can have a worth while effect on this either way is a real big assumption in my humble opinion.
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#508972 - 11/09/15 01:07 AM Re: GLOBAL COOLING: Ice Age due to solar hibernation [Re: Short]
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You are, of course, correct. My response was totally "tongue in cheek"... Ragman sums it up well.
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#509001 - 11/09/15 08:28 PM Re: GLOBAL COOLING: Ice Age due to solar hibernation [Re: Short]
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Shyboy, I thought I had caught you, in doing so you caught me. Job well done!
And of course Ragman, totally agree.

Back on topic: Belize appears to be the right place to live for the next 25 years.

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#509005 - 11/09/15 10:43 PM Re: GLOBAL COOLING: Ice Age due to solar hibernation [Re: Short]
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That's assuming it doesn't get too cold in Belize.

By the way: I am on the island every few months and like to meet forum members... Are either you or Ragman on the island in late November or mid February? If so; please send me a PM with local #.
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#509059 - 11/11/15 05:37 PM Re: GLOBAL COOLING: Ice Age due to solar hibernation [Re: Short]
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http://www.nationmultimedia.com/opinion/Cold-sun-rising-30272650.html Here is an opinion piece from a "Liberal" magazine in the USA. I was surprised that it seemed fair and presented some of the highlights of the Climate argument of the last decade plus. Do I sense they are backing away from "Climate" change caused by man as the evidence mounts over the last few years? Of course most of this has been covered by very respected scientists who were renounced for their work.

And of course the politics of this require that man made change stay in place for most governing bodies who will never admit their mistake. smirk
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