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#51283 - 04/16/02 02:51 PM fishing - gear and lure suggestions
wyatt70119 Offline
Will be down in about 10 days. Have been occassionally posting and lurking on board for a couple of months. I understand that for best results one should use a local guide for fishing which I do plan on doing. But, I am stubborn and still plan on doing some early morning and late afternoon fishing from the beach/docks. I will be staying at Banyan Bay and couple of miles south of town. I have a reasonable amount of experience fishing the coastal marshes for specks and reds, and was wondering what locations, lures, baits, and techniques (using light spinning tackle) would be best. Are tides much of a concern? If so, any suggestions would be appreciated.

Anyone that might be interested in splitting the cost of a guide April 28th - May 4th, email me at wyatt70119@hotmail.com .

Thanks in advance,

New Orleans

#51284 - 04/16/02 07:52 PM Re: fishing - gear and lure suggestions
Marty Offline
tides are not much to speak of...

Here's some links to fishing threads on this board:

report, what to use, etc: http://ambergriscaye.com/message/Forum4/HTML/002260.html

TIPS, guides perspective: http://ambergriscaye.com/message/Forum4/HTML/002292.html

LOTS of info on fishing: http://ambergriscaye.com/fishing/


Whereas 8 and 9 weight rods and lines are generally considered the standard bonefish gear on the Florida flats, smaller 6, 7 and 8 weight rods are more than adequate for the flats of The Caribbean. These rods are much more pleasurable to fish and cast with, and certainly provide a lot more entertainment for the angler after the bonefish are hooked.

The smaller rods (6 & 7) are great when there is little or no wind and an 8 weight rod has more than enough muscle to deliver a fly in even the stiffest of gales. Moreover, the 8 weight rod will double as the ideal rod for permit and light tarpon fishing. Many anglers prefer to have the larger rod rigged up and in the boat for the permit and a 6 or 7 weight rod with a floating line in hand for the bonefish that are routine. This also leaves the 8 weight a reserve rod and for extremely windy days. Ten and eleven weight rods are perfect for Central American Tarpon fishing.

The choice of rod length is important. Nine or nine and a half foot long rods are optimum. More line can be picked up off the water with the longer rods, with less surface disturbance, and without retrieving nearly as much of the previously cast line. Also, for the vast majority of flyrodders, greater distances can be covered and with less effort using the longer fly rods.

Unlike the reels that will suffice in most freshwater conditions, saltwater reels must have a minimum of 175 yards of capacity, more if you plan on landing a truly large bonefish. The drag system on the reel must be smooth and reliable, capable of running at high RPM's that are generated by the sizzling bursts that typify bonefishing. Also, the reel should be corrosion-resistent, unless they are cleaned daily. Some reels simply will not hold up in any saltwater because of the finish (two are the Orvis CFO and Hardy's Perfect series). Ross, Stutz, Pate, Marryatt, and the new Scientific Anglers System II (model 8/9) are all excellent for this type of fishing.

When you are casting to fish that are, potentially, as large as you are, there is no substitute for quality in a reel. Tarpon are capable of long, sustained bursts of speed and distance. Consequently, the fisherman needs a reel that has both a large (250 yards minimum) capacity, and a smooth reliable drag system. Anglers have their own personal preferences regarding direct drive vs. anti-reverse model fly reels, and even the professionals disagree. Whatever model that you choose, base your decision on how often you'll be using the reel and that you will, in all probability, only be buying one your whole life.

The best tarpon reels are the Billy Pate (tarpon model), FinNor, Ross, Fenwick, and Sea Master. Scientific Anglers' new System II model for tarpon is ideal for the angler that doesn't intend to do this kind of fishing often. Prices and availability vary, as does the manufacturer's ability to service and repair the reels.

A weight forward, bass bug taper or saltwater taper floating line is ideal for this type of bonefishing. Intermediate saltwater tapers are the answer for tarpon and permit fishing. Anglers should bring along some sort of line cleaner for the lines as well, since saltwater has a way of making them sticky after a few days use.


The two successful permit flies we have tried are the Jewett Blue Crab and the Spears' Permit.


Leaders (one new leader for each day) should be about 9 feet long and approximately 10 Ibs. strength. Windier conditions may necessitate shortening these. And, of course, tippet material in a corresponding size.

A leader snipper, hemostats, small fly box, hook hone, polarized glasses (amber is the favorite all 'round color), reel lubricant, tennis shoes (to dampen deck noise), a lightweight rain jacket for the occasion squalls on the flats, sunscreen and suntan lotion, lipscreen, insect repellant, and a wide-brimmed or upand-downer hat.

#51285 - 04/17/02 12:54 PM Re: fishing - gear and lure suggestions
wyatt70119 Offline
Thanks for the info Marty. How's the fishing been inside the reef lately?

#51286 - 04/17/02 03:04 PM Re: fishing - gear and lure suggestions
REBEL_01201 Offline
Off the docks with light spinning gear, we had great luck with sardines. You can buy them at the store across from Banana Beach or get live ones from locals. Small bonefish, red & yellow snapper and other fish readily accepted them. Early morning or late evening is best - - heat of the day is for doing other things. Great dock To the right of Ricp's restaurant at Banyan Bay. Expect the occasional lookover from a Barracuda, especially towards dark and the Ray's will take your bait as well. I had hits on a 1/4 ounce Roostertail (Shrimp Pink Color). The fish love the eyes of baitfish so anything you have with pronounced eyes would be worth a cast. Good luck - love what you see - and always treat it with high regard. Belize is beautiful !!!!!!!!!

#51287 - 04/17/02 03:06 PM Re: fishing - gear and lure suggestions
REBEL_01201 Offline
Sorry for the typo's - - I meant Rico's Restaurant

#51288 - 04/17/02 03:13 PM Re: fishing - gear and lure suggestions
wyatt70119 Offline
how were you rigging your sardines?

Seems that the opinions of fishing from the piers/beach vary widely. Some people have told me that "you'll have lots of fun though the fish are small", to "not much to be caught from piers/beach". Guess it depends on ones perspective.

Really looking forward to this trip.

#51289 - 04/17/02 04:30 PM Re: fishing - gear and lure suggestions
wyatt70119 Offline
any suggestions on dealing with Rays, should I hook one?

#51290 - 04/18/02 07:01 AM Re: fishing - gear and lure suggestions
REBEL_01201 Offline

Cut the sardines in thirds and run the hook through it twice (top to bottom). Yes the fish may be small but I caught many good sized snappers near where you are staying. As far as the Ray's, make every attempt to gently remove the hook thereby minimizing damage to them. If it is hooked beyond extracting, cut the line as close to the hook as possible. The Ray's are not so common as to really be a concern but they are possible. If you hook a large one - don't worry - you ain't bringing him in!!!!!Above all - enjoy where you are.

#51291 - 04/18/02 10:02 AM Re: fishing - gear and lure suggestions
wyatt70119 Offline
thanks for the input. I'll post a report to let anyone interested know what kind of luck or lack there of I had.


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