you will have trouble betting point given(you will only find his name in the bloodlines of point determined). in my opinion point determined could be the horse to beat, and i have bet him, weeks back in the futures pools. i am going to use him with barbaro,sweetnorthernsaint,and a.p. warrior in the gimmicks. good racing!
p.s. take a look at bluegrass cat if the odds are high enough.