Permit or any fish in that pampano family are really awesome ! I only use an Eight weight with a roll of sound backings because you will need it if you hit a good one. Live crabs on a medium spinning rod will do it too sometimes. Have you fisherman ever watched "The Spanish Fly" fishing show on ESPN ? The host Jose Wejebe, he knows his stuff and it's really fun to watch it. The last time it was on early Saturday morning. These days I've been fishing for rainbow trout in missouri, but I am ready for some fishing, snorkeling, and Sailing in Belize !