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Nation in darkness as new turbine fails 1st test #17112
09/03/03 09:54 AM
09/03/03 09:54 AM
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Posts: 80,387
oregon, spr
Marty Offline OP

Marty  Offline OP
Just before three this morning
much of the country was
plunged into darkness after
electrical storms in Mexico
tripped Belize's power supply
from the Comission Federal de
Electricidad (C.F.E.). But, as you
might recall, after the last series
of blackouts, Belize Electricity Limited had promised
that its new gas turbine at Mile Eight would have
the lights back on twenty minutes into any power
failure. So what went wrong? According to B.E.L.'s
Vice President of Energy Supply, Derek Davis, faulty
wiring and bad weather on the ground are to

Derek Davis, V.P., Energy Supply, B.E.L.
"The first problem was related to black-starting with
the gas
turbine. As you know, this unit was designed, this was
one of
the purposes it was designed for, but it's one of the
you cannot test so easily because it only happens when
system goes dead. So the point is, when we tried to do
it, it
didn't work. We had technical problems, the breaker
close, and so we had to use other options to get it

Janelle Chanona
"Now for the ordinary person who doesn't know what
black-starting is, what is it that you tried to do?"

Derek Davis
"Black starting basically is that you have a dead
system. You
do not have power anywhere and then, in other words,
plants use auxiliaries like electric motors and so on
and you
have to find some small diesel unit to power them and
power up the bigger generator and get major power to the
grid; so you are starting from totally dead system."

Janelle Chanona
"But you all have a power generator at mile eight.
That didn't kick over?"

Derek Davis
"Yes, that kicked over, that worked and we got the unit
up to
what we call up to running speed and everything. But
fell down on us was that the breaker itself, there is
wiring problem on the breaker that it did not close on
to the
dead bus. It could not sense that the bus was dead and

Janelle Chanona
"And then the second set of had some
personnel problems getting out there?"

Derek Davis
"Yeah, we had some people getting out to the site. This
three in the morning and we had to find people to get to
site. And after that, we had to find people and get them
the Belize City plant. We then had to use the diesel
generators in Belize City to start up the system and get
power to mile eight, so we could synchronize, as opposed
starting on a black dead system."

So was last night the last of the black outs?
Wwweeellll, not really. Davis says power generated
from Mile Eight, Mollejon and the diesel generators
are keeping the lights on right now. But, if C.F.E.
doesn't get its act together by the peak hours
tonight, the electricity company will have to
consider systematically shutting down sections of
the grid until things are back to normal across the

Derek Davis
"We can with the water flow we presently have, we can
supply our demand through the end of the day. And after
that we would have to look at load shedding
least temporarily."

Janelle Chanona
"A.K.A. rotating blackouts?"

Derek Davis
"Rotating blackouts until we can get some generation or
C.F.E. comes online, whichever comes first."

Janelle Chanona
"That would be just in the city or countrywide?"

Derek Davis
"Well we would look at the country as a whole."

We are reliably informed that as of five o'clock this
evening the full twenty-five megawatts of power
from Mexico has been flowing smoothly into the
Belizean grid.

Re: Nation in darkness as new turbine fails 1st test #17113
09/03/03 06:14 PM
09/03/03 06:14 PM
Joined: May 2000
Posts: 1,191
San Pedro Town
Chris Offline
Chris  Offline
B.E.L. = Bad Electricity Lately (again)

Did I read right??? They couldn't get the new generator going because there was no power?

Re: Nation in darkness as new turbine fails 1st test #17114
09/04/03 10:49 AM
09/04/03 10:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 256
Belize City, Belize
mayatravel Offline
mayatravel  Offline
Scary to think these are the same people who are asking us to trust them to build and operate a large dam. Hold onto your kerosene lamps.

Maya Travel Services
Re: Nation in darkness as new turbine fails 1st test #17115
09/04/03 11:29 AM
09/04/03 11:29 AM

LMAO! Amen to that Mayatravel!


Re: Nation in darkness as new turbine fails 1st test #17116
09/04/03 03:13 PM
09/04/03 03:13 PM
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 1,041
San Pedro, Belize
govikes Offline
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ahh but don't you see how bringing in 100M's of tourists on cruise ships will help this situation? It will make it better. hmmmmmm....seems like they need to solve some of their infrastructure problems to take care of the people they already have there before they....hmmmm. nevermind.

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