Canadian smoking (anti-smoking) laws
#173630
03/09/05 09:50 AM
03/09/05 09:50 AM
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Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 577 Bayfield Ontario
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Worked the bar last night and had a customer come in who owns his own company (construction) and has his logo on the doors of his truck. After the Ontario (anti) smoking laws changed in September 2004 no one is allowed to smoke in bars, restaurants etc. as (perhaps) it should be.
(Wait a sec, I'm lighting a cigarette so I can think this thing through.)
He just finished paying a $5000 fine split four ways for the four guys (including himself) that were caught smoking in his truck at a job site(outside, winter, cold).They were caught by the health department, not the cops,who enforce this, in his truck owned by his corporation with his logo on the door of his personal truck.
New York folks, I know they are slamming you too. In Ontario in a few months, you will be prosecuted for smoking in a car if anyone else in the car is under nineteen.
If everyone in this vehicle is within the "age of consent" I think this is ridiculous. As a smoker I am considerate of others and now pay $9.20 for a pack of cigarettes here (supposedly to enhance the healthcare system to care for those dying of lung cancer).
I do not smoke in the presence of those who do not (without their sincere permission). Where does this end? Of course I know it's wrong. But is this not ridiculous? I attended the huge antique car swap in Hershey Pennsylvania last year, was smoking there (outside, a giant yard sale) with my friend and after half a day we noticed no one else was smoking. I asked a vendor if smoking was permitted and she said "Yes, this is Pennsylvania, but if it was New York you'd be in jail..."
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Re: Canadian smoking (anti-smoking) laws
#173632
03/09/05 10:08 AM
03/09/05 10:08 AM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 3,677 Maple Grove, MN USA
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There are too many lawyers. Remember when you could stop at a hotel or motel for the night when traveling, and the place actually had a diving board for their pool? Remember when products didn't have to have three pages of legal disclaimers? Remember when you could walk into a place of business and not see a sign saying "this door must remain unlocked during business hours"? Remember when you could discipline a child for misbehaviour? Will things change before overweight people start getting turned away at restaurants? Probably not. My favorite smoking tale. My wife went into a store, and I stayed out front for a cig. A woman with a kid, about a 5 year old boy walked past. The child got in front of me and in an annoying voice loudly said "you're going to die", followed by a big grin. Mom stood by approvingly. I replied, "so are you, kid". Mom grabbed the little munchkin (who looked horrified) and hurried away, giving me THE LOOK. It had occurred to me that she might summon security, and in my mind I formulated a plan to claim that the kid threatened me. Never happened. In my line of business, we had a category of customers that we referred to as "I'm stupid, and it's your fault." This seems to be a growing trend.
Been there, done that, the washing machine ate the T-shirt
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Re: Canadian smoking (anti-smoking) laws
#173633
03/09/05 10:16 AM
03/09/05 10:16 AM
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Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 3,677 Maple Grove, MN USA
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Smokers are about the only minority that can't get their own way by whining loudly enough. Too bad smoking does not have a religious, ethnic, gender or some sort of diversity basis. Listen to me talk, white, middle aged, middle income, veteran, Christian. The largest non-diverse group in the U.S. A democratic government is the hardest thing to overthrow, because you have to get a lot of people to agree, and that ain't gonna happen.
Been there, done that, the washing machine ate the T-shirt
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Re: Canadian smoking (anti-smoking) laws
#173637
03/10/05 08:58 AM
03/10/05 08:58 AM
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Posts: 3,677 Maple Grove, MN USA
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CrackerLarry, who's going to turn you in? I would have a talk with the family. If it did happen, and you got prosecuted and convicted, it would definitely be proof that we have way too many lawyers. Last weekend, my wife and I took my younger sister (who is handicapped, but that is not important to the story other than this is about her only passion)to a local casino to play the slots. A lady sat down at a machine next to her, glared at her, hacked and waved the smoke away (my sister also smokes). My sister smiled at her and said "I am sorry if this offends you, but that's as far as it goes. If you don't like it, go back to the non-smoking section." Worked fine, the lady left.
Been there, done that, the washing machine ate the T-shirt
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Re: Canadian smoking (anti-smoking) laws
#173639
03/10/05 09:13 AM
03/10/05 09:13 AM
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Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 6,251
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Several of my employees smoke. When they come into work and into my office it makes me remember how I used to smell. I don't care who smokes or where. This was something I made mental note of when I smelled them. I sure as heck didn't mention it to them My sister won't come to my house because I asked her to step out to smoke. It's truly a sensitive subject to the smoker and the non-smoker. I recollect a while ago when there were non smoking sections being erected on Ambergris Caye. BIG discussions then. Non-smokers don't think twice about smokers, they just complain when they smell it. (although I must admit I love the smell of the cigarette, just not the aftersmell on someone)
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