hey skullyboy and kathyw, i'm from salt lake too!!! but i get to live here in san pedro. i love salt lake and my whole family is there, but am very happy to be living here. my mom just emailed me saying how cold it's been in salt lake. i'm sorry. anywho, just thought it was cool to see some fellow utahns. about chap, haven't seen him for awhile either. if i do, i'll let him know you're looking for him. good day.