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#216578 - 09/03/02 09:06 PM island life  

We are spending a month in an island called Maui. Here the community and gov. has been guided somewhat for centuries by the idea of "aloha". The king had no army, cops, or jails. He governed by smoozing and helping so many people that everyone liked him or owed him a favor.
Caye Caulker has maybe 500 or 600 adults. Some are homebound or have other reasons not to particpate in community life. That might leave only 300 or so people. If you can get 200 to agree with you like the Maui kings did then you can bring positive things to CC.(Hint: Bitter remarks don't work)
Message boards like this can actually change the minds of enough folks to make a change on the ground that you can see.You need reach only a handful of us in an island society like ours. Along with your great ideas perhaps one might include a way to implement them on this sandbar for real.

#216579 - 09/04/02 01:26 AM Re: island life  

How many Caye Caulker residents actually use this board? Sometimes it seems like ONLY residents (locals, semi-locals and foreigners) are using it, but it also seems like the same 10 people, not a huge majority of the population.

#216580 - 09/04/02 09:57 AM Re: island life  
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But if the locals using the site are in business (like most are)they will inter-react with others and change is possible. It all boils down to being positive. Everyone can see the negative but it is much harder to see the positive...some can see what a project will look finished and others can't...we are all different. Help those who can't see the bright future of CC.


#216581 - 09/04/02 12:06 PM Re: island life  
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Capt. Bill,
What does FWIW mean?

#216582 - 09/04/02 02:12 PM Re: island life  

For what its worth?

Sounded good anyway. lol

#216583 - 09/04/02 03:52 PM Re: island life  

Here here to Capt Bill. Heartily agree that Caye Caulker residents should cut the silly backbiting and look at the positive. This island is so beautiful and has so much potential. Good changes should be welcomed as a benefit to all.

#216584 - 09/06/02 03:06 PM Re: island life  
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I'm in.

#216585 - 09/06/02 06:58 PM Re: island life  
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Remember that most all big things start small, often as an idea, or vision, or wish. Also remember that if you throw a small pebble into still water, it will create large rings that spread out much farther than the pebble could ever touch.

OK, OK, enough abstract, mystical parables: I agree with most everything every poster has written. What CC could use is a good community organizer; a person who works to build consensus, or at the very least, compromise that people can accept. Do you think something like a Peace Corp volunteer could do the trick? Is there any BZE or CC native that could be this community organizer? Would it be better if it were an outsider, since they could be the catalyst & also take the heat so that locals could continue to work toward established goals, rather than being slowed by the personalities and the politics.

In the states, communities do land use plans. It's a complex process that can involve the citizens every step of the way IF THEY CHOOSE TO BE INVOLVED. While it's complex, it doesn't require lots of education to accomplish, just a successful model to adapt, and willingness to do the homework. As Allie says, some best practices could be utilized, for all aspects, even the plan. Don't reinvent the wheel. Just borrow the best one you can find, tweak it to fit the island, and commit your body, heart, soul and mind. If you can't do that, then visibly and vocally support those who ARE doing it.

When something positive is going on, people WILL notice. Then, slowly, they will begin to believe that positive change can happen. And regrettably, it then takes them a while to jump in and help or just support the efforts.

From some of the other posts, it seems that one of the first movements might be to identify a BZE'r that is honest, will work for the common good, is strong enough to withstand some "blows" and has shown themselves able to pursue something for the longer run. Once these folks are identified, they can be approached by the group wanting change. They can be asked to serve as a community leader, especially on the village council & other positions of political influence and power. If you find some (even one) who agrees to run, then you organize the campaign to educate the voters, or even get people to vote, and get them in office. the work can really begin at that point.

As someone said, how can this be accomplished? Maybe it can't......yet. Perhaps the seeds are tiny and take a while to germinate. sometimes that happens. But just because it will take a long time doesn't mean it isn't worth doing. And each person can do their thing in the best possible way. Educate your children about fairness, and community, and conservation, and integrity. They may be able to accomplish what their parents cannot.

#216586 - 09/07/02 04:41 PM Re: island life  
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Well said! small steps turn into a path for others to follow.


#216587 - 09/07/02 05:02 PM Re: island life  

Obviously the contributors to this thread are new to the island. Many positive things have evolved on the island over the decades. If you have something specific you want to initiate, go ahead.
Not to be the bummer here but there does exits here and everywhere some real and ugly things as well and to ignore them or not talk about them does not make them go away.

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