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Re: No-Fishing Zones Payoff Fast for Reefs [Re: Bill Mc Ghee] #235970
04/20/07 09:29 PM
04/20/07 09:29 PM
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Both of you fellows have a very sincere concern for the resources of the near coastal waters of Belize and I offer a sincere commendation to you for it. My first response to Mr Warren was not made with the intent to be rude, insensitive or derogatory, but may have been interperated so. If so I appologize sincerely. The intent was simply to vent and express my frustration and concerns regarding what I perceive as a system, larger than fishing, in need of adjustments. And I believe you both are correct in that real change is ultimately the responsibility of the voting public. And it seems a large part of this population might benefit significantly and make good voting choices from access to better information. I guess I don't know just when this might occur until all the children are educated.


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Re: No-Fishing Zones Payoff Fast for Reefs [Re: Don Greife] #235971
04/20/07 10:06 PM
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A group of friends from SoCal, avid fishermen, have decided to vacation elsewhere after reading this thread and others like it. Too bad as they spend lots of US$ when they go on fishing holidays.

Last edited by Jesse; 04/20/07 10:17 PM.
Re: No-Fishing Zones Payoff Fast for Reefs [Re: SP Daily] #235975
04/21/07 03:36 AM
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The truth shall set you free?


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Re: No-Fishing Zones Payoff Fast for Reefs [Re: Marty] #235978
04/21/07 08:25 AM
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Good example of how the Board can help people to make informed decisions. grin

Re: No-Fishing Zones Payoff Fast for Reefs [Re: Bill Mc Ghee] #235986
04/21/07 09:06 AM
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Go Guys
Consequence is the best teacher.
Suffering lost of revenue from abusing the reef will ultimately be the reason action is taken. My soap box is a waste.


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Re: No-Fishing Zones Payoff Fast for Reefs [Re: bywarren] #235987
04/21/07 09:16 AM
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Jesse, I understand your concern regarding the SoCal fellows going elsewhere to fish. Their plight sounds very similar to the one that an armada of "annual regulars" have elected not to boat to the islands from Miami because the government there doesn't want them to keep lobsters any longer. This group now drinks beer in Ket West annually. Somehow I doubt that either group will significantly impact the local economies and they will certainly not contribute to a resolution to the social problems at hand. Just my 2C worth.


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Re: No-Fishing Zones Payoff Fast for Reefs [Re: Don Greife] #235992
04/21/07 09:52 AM
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A couple of tourist deciding to drink beer in another port really won't, but dredging the sea bed and sea walling for development is so dramatically effecting the fish that Fisherman and divers alike will soon elect to visit a more ecomature ( i think I just invented a new word)country. The developers deriving profit will leave having been successful and those that call this home, will be left staring at a lot of empty condos and suffering a collapsed economy.
Whats going to happen to Ambergris happened to the Cayman Islands in the late 70's and early 80's. They came back after implementing environmental restrictions that set a world standard, but only after a decade of loss.
Damn there I go with the soap box again.


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Re: No-Fishing Zones Payoff Fast for Reefs [Re: Marty] #236000
04/21/07 12:50 PM
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MY GOD Marty. Little did you know that by posting that article San Pedro is know in danger of becoming a ghost town.

Re: No-Fishing Zones Payoff Fast for Reefs [Re: bywarren] #236024
04/21/07 11:33 PM
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Just one more question and then I'll shut up.
Q: Do public hearings, on impact statements, take place before major developments are approved for construction?


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Re: No-Fishing Zones Payoff Fast for Reefs [Re: Don Greife] #236032
04/22/07 09:21 AM
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Yes and No , don't you just hate when people say that.
Some post the intention in a newspaper or public place like the library or town hall to have a defense if the objection comes later they can say they asked first. notices in the paper sometimes mention the posting is in Belmopan, (not likely a place Ambergrisans will travel to for the purpose of keeping informed).
Its not really effective and seems like a trick on the public to get it buy them.
There is a new deal, Major Paz has taken over control of the Ambergris Caye Planning authority recently and change is in the wind.
Part of the problem is not all of Ambergris Caye is in the Township and when its not permissions come from Belmopan with out an opinion of the Town Board. Another side to it is the seabed and Beach is under the jurisdiction of Belmopan.Its a real battle of control between local gov. and national gov. Each want the revenue from Fees and Graff, but San Pedro also wants To protect their home.
A good example of Out of control is the Dredging permits. The law gives Belmopan the authority to give permits to Dredge and even though the San Pedro Town board may be against it. Craig Moore in the Department of Mines and Geology in Belmopan feels Dredging the Sea Bed is good for Development so he approves it with out consulting the Township.
At this moment the huge new project at Journeys End is dredging the hell out of the entire sea bed area and pumping the salty silt onto the land salting the freshwater aguafer killing trees and destroying fresh water wells in the area, all with objections of San Pedro but with a permit from Creig Moore in Belmopan.
Its a big mess.


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