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Cabinet Meeting- 10 July, 2007 #242757
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Cabinet endorsed an initiative of the Minister for Natural Resources and the Environment, the Hon. Florencio Marin, to impose a limit of 99 years on future leases of any cayes, as well as the imposition of conditions to safeguard the mangroves and the marine environment.

Re: Cabinet Meeting- 10 July, 2007 [Re: SP Daily] #242763
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I thought Cayes where purchases..?
I didn't know we had the leasing for anything but dock permissions. You know, permission/a lease to have your dock on the sea bed.
Wow

Re: Cabinet Meeting- 10 July, 2007 [Re: elbert] #242765
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The government leases land to many locals - in most circumstances these leases eventually lead to eventual purchase and title transfer.

In the case of all remaining government owned cayes, the government will be limited to only granting long term (99 yr) leases on cayes (islands) - no more outright sales.

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This is great news. Lets see if it will be inforced when passed.

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I'm with you Kathy

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The Government will most likely change in 8 months time. Also there is speculation that this Government is to sell a 8,000 acre tranch of North Island in any case. They cannot enact the changes until that transaction has been completed.

Re: Cabinet Meeting- 10 July, 2007 [Re: beachboy] #242792
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There are no areas on the island that are cut & dried zoned for commercial or residential.

Just because a developer scratches the word "commercial zone" on a proposed subdivision map - it doesn't make it so in the eyes of the law.

The only way to ensure completely legal zone areas is to declare them, and record the property as such on the deed (deed restrict.)

As you may be aware, in order to zone Hol Chan Marine Reserve many years of lobbying and legal hoops needed to be negotiated. It is the same for land based zoning areas.

Biggest problem is that in most subdivision areas on the island there will already be someone that has established himself, either residential or commercial - and he may not agree with the proposed zoning and wouldn't be required to comply because his deed would not be restricted.

In the case of strata titles (condos) you will see that they have deed restrictions that require that the owner be governed by both the laws of the Belize and the recorded and filed by-laws of the condo project.

So the trick is probably to lobby the developers of larger tracts on the island to actually go the extra mile and deed restrict zones in his subdivision according to a master plan.

Although the island has "proposed master plan" that is has adopted to use as guidelines, the plan was never registered and never became law - so one should never assume that because you buy a lot in a neighbourhood full of private homes, that it will necessarily stay that way. This is another reason why it would be great to see more neigbourhood block parties so that the neighbours can all discuss any concerns they have and be prepared to band together in times of crisis. It is always good to even set up a little emergency fund in case an immediate injuction needs to be filed before something awful creeps into the neighbourhood practically overnight.

If everybody lives on his property and imagines that he is an island unto himself, the truth will come up and slap him in the face when he least expects it.

My neighbourhood doesn't have block parties but we keep in touch via sporadic emails so that we have an idea what is going on or is planned in the vicinity. It helps to be familiar with your neighbours since you all have a substantial vested interest in your 'hood.

The San Pedro Business Association is working on hosting a number of town block parties such as the recent Lobster Fest. Maybe these gatherings could be extended to include "meet and greets of new residents."

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Originally Posted by beachboy
The Government will most likely change in 8 months time. Also there is speculation that this Government is to sell a 8,000 acre tranch of North Island in any case. They cannot enact the changes until that transaction has been completed.


I think people are confusing what the definition of "Caye" properties is. IHMO I believe the GOB is refering to the leasing of Government owned ISLANDS - bodies of land surrounded by water. But the 8,000 acres tract of property on Ambergris Caye is not an island it is a tract of land located on an island.

Re: Cabinet Meeting- 10 July, 2007 [Re: Amanda Syme] #242797
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Amanda are you saying only whole Cayes will be affected as you understand it?

Under the squating laws here, a Belizean could build a home on an Island, then apply for the lease and would most likely get an acre for himself. He then could subsequently apply for the right to purchase that acre.

The way I read into it is that any Caye land granted to a Belizean (not zoned) would be only as a 99 year lease in future.


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