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Oh dear, we don't seem to be getting very far. You really must try reading what is written and do your best to comprehend it before setting finger to keyboard.

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You have just proved my point that Israel is a peace loving, democratic, non apartheid regime. Anybody can get off of a plane and go anywhere that they want in the country. You can take pictures, speak with anyone you like, and report back and say anything to anyone you want to. This is not true for many state actors and terrorist organization. There is far from a free press in Hamas controlled Gaza, Egypt, Iran, Syria, Saudi Arabia. Many of these are the very groups who you recommend the world capitulating to their demands that non-Muslims not have a presence in the area that they have been in for thousands of years.

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I don't care what anyone says, Israel is wrong and evil in this matter.

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Fascinating! Elbert, do you have a copy of Goldmann's book? I'd love to read it.

This statement of Israel's Foreign Minister in 1998, taken from your quote, is revealing:-
"It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion, clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism, colonialization, or Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of their lands."
-- Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.

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Hmmmmmm.... the same Ariel Sharon who unilaterally pulled out of the entire Gaza strip. Many people warned him that pulling out of Gaza would not lead to peace as they Arabs have stated it would, but rather lead to rocket attacks and attacks on border towns........surely that would never happen. Israel wants peace and a small piece of land they can call their own, not other peoples land.

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I would love to see a map of the entire middle east that compares Jewish owned land and Arab owned land. Might put things in a different perspective. Israel is a tiny, tiny place that the Israelis according to the United Nations are entitled to. The Arabs have an enormous amount of land, some of which is rightfully theirs, some was stolen years ago from other groups.
The amount of land controlled by Israel was much smaller before all Arab countries attacked Israel in 1967 in an effort to "drive the Jews into the sea". The Arab armies were destroyed in 6 days and Israel got a lot of territory. This land was historically theirs anyways. Going back a long time, way before 1948. Within a week of the 1967 war, Israel offered the Arab league full withdrawal to the pre 1967 borders in exchange for PEACE. They said no!!!! and here we are.........

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A couple more, from David Ben-Gurion. Was he also a fringe politician?:-

"Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place built in this country that did not have a former Arab population."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted in The Jewish Paradox, by Nahum Goldmann, Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1978, p. 99

"Let us not ignore the truth among ourselves ... politically we are the aggressors and they defend themselves... The country is theirs, because they inhabit it, whereas we want to come here and settle down, and in their view we want to take away from them their country."
-- David Ben Gurion, quoted on pp 91-2 of Chomsky's Fateful Triangle, which appears in Simha Flapan's "Zionism and the Palestinians pp 141-2 citing a 1938 speech


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