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#357403 - 11/10/09 11:44 AM Hindsight is 20/20  
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I posted this in June 2008, when Chat was a source for 10 new topics a I wonder how many will even read it....sad really?

I have been somewhat surprised at the animosity shown towards those of us who care to discuss non Belizean subjects, so I'll try to offer a perspective, which while unique to me will I'm sure be relevant to some other board members in some way.

I visited San Pedro 6 times in the last 12 months: I have a business there, a home under construction and would estimate that I would be extremely unlikely to walk around San Pedro for more than 10 minutes without seeing someone I knew, a very different situation from where I now live, having moved to Plano (north Dallas, 6,500,000 people) to be close, travel wise, to La Ilsa Bonita: for 4 years prior, I was in Moab, Utah a town of 5000, and before that in a little ski town called Red Lodge, Montana, population 2179, for 6 years.

Over the past year, I have formed many and varying relationships via this board: my trips down have been influenced by who would also be there, and my love for the island and the future of Ambergris Caye is an integral part of my life and also both my financial and emotional well being. My partner there is Belizean of Indian decent, and I'm happy to have friends of many ethnic backgrounds on the island. I try to evaluate people based on substance, not appearance

If I chose to debate an issue with fellow board members, I am at a loss to understand how this in any way detracts from the enjoyment of another viewer? Is there a finite limit on the number of characters that can be displayed? Is there a compulsion by some to read every post? There are many areas of the board that I rarely visit, but for some who may enjoy those areas, I feel no animus: perhaps a “Non Belizean” section in the chat forum would be an idea?

Both Mini Chat and Big are utilized far more by those of us outside the country as a means of keeping in touch with each other and as a way of feeling involved until such time as we are able to return, and discussing any and all subjects, including the election of the leader of the free world seems to be reasonable?

When I do return to San Pedro, I'll look forward to rehashing the same discussions with Reaper, although we agree on almost nothing (except perhaps that he does have a hot wife) to reconfirming that Otter is one of the good guys, and that there is some intelligent life along the banks of the Missouri, if you are prepared to look really hard while simultaneously drinking a lot. There may even still be an attorney in California who likes me, although it seems to be down to just one, and thats 'cause her neighbor has a Pug!

Perhaps when I'm down there for more extended periods, I will find other subjects to debate: the price of tortillas thanks to ethanol, the quality and bias of local media or the monopoly of Bowen and Bowen...the thing is, if I annoy you now, I'll probably still annoy you then, just on a different subject: until such time, lets keep debate civil, and remember we always have the option not to read, be it a post or an on line paper....only Tacogirls Blog is mandatory!

It's rarely rocket science, it's usually just math: then again if you can't do the math.......
#357414 - 11/10/09 12:33 PM Re: Hindsight is 20/20 [Re: pugwash]  
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I miss you Pug! Red lodge huh? I'm not that far from there. I too have a place in A/C,. almost done. I would put my wife (in the hot catagory) against Reapers anytime.

Reality is only an illusion that occurs due to a lack of alcohol
#357415 - 11/10/09 12:37 PM Re: Hindsight is 20/20 [Re: champion]  
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Hey Pug, you're still on my list of "reliable" people. smile

Been there, done that, the washing machine ate the T-shirt
#357453 - 11/10/09 04:52 PM Re: Hindsight is 20/20 [Re: Bobber]  
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Pugster - Well put. I am sure most computers have the same options mine has and that is, don't click it if you don't like it. Oh well - I can read it on other boards it I choose.

We need to have a beer next time I am in the "plex". Maybe some more of that great Indian food Ms. Pug fixes. I'll bring the Shiners. (and flowers for the misses of course!)

Play, Love, Share and Enjoy - it doesn't last forever make sure you get the most out of it.
#357460 - 11/10/09 05:32 PM Re: Hindsight is 20/20 [Re: 2Aggies]  
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Just bring the Shiners....she doesn't expect much, and I'm living up to her expectations....I'd hate to have to adjust at this stage of my life frown

It's rarely rocket science, it's usually just math: then again if you can't do the math.......
#357462 - 11/10/09 05:58 PM Re: Hindsight is 20/20 [Re: pugwash]  
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I'm not checking in here as often - primarily because the people I enjoy most aren't either. Miss your perspective, Pug!

#357463 - 11/10/09 06:18 PM Re: Hindsight is 20/20 [Re: SnoopysMom]  
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Isn't Pug a Pedroean?

#357479 - 11/10/09 08:13 PM Re: Hindsight is 20/20 [Re: SP Daily]  
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It's easy to see why people got so frustrated with USA Chat. Too many personal attacks were allowed to stand. It's pretty sad that a lot of the rock throwers ran to Marty when their views were seen as wrong by others. Too many people were too busy trying to convert way too many others to their way of thinking. Opposite views weren't discussed rationaly. When I expressed my dissapointment with the forum I was told to "stop crying". I was far from crying. Debate became too heated. I remember discussing gay marriage with Bobber once. He stated his side, I stated my side. We agreed to disagree. I totally respect his opinions. He totally respected mine. That didn't happen much in here over the past few years. Only a certain number of folks were capable of calm, rational debate. A lot of "regulars" went over to Facebook to chat and keep up with each other. Mostly because of the overall rudeness of a certain few board members. The other day a guy asked a very good question here. "How do I ship some things to Belize?" A poster replied "have mommy and daddy pay for it!". Maybe the poster thought that was funny. It was in very poor taste. Things like that should be deleted ASAP. I suggested to Marty about a year ago that there should be a USA Chat that you have to sign up for, sort of like the Businesss Forum. Then people just looking for Belize info wouldn't be subjected to our banter and we could have a free for all!

#357480 - 11/10/09 08:17 PM Re: Hindsight is 20/20 [Re: reaper]  
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#357481 - 11/10/09 08:28 PM Re: Hindsight is 20/20 [Re: SP Daily]  
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I am hoping that this board will recover and get back to what it was always designed to be, a place for folks that are interested in Ambergris Caye to ask and answer question - now we have to state "in a polite and courteous manner."

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