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#366362 - 02/05/10 12:08 PM Islam is a kind, caring religion  
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#366365 - 02/05/10 12:15 PM Re: Islam is a kind, caring religion [Re: Peter Jones]  
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Point of interest - nowhere in this story is there a mention of Islam.

#366406 - 02/05/10 01:51 PM Re: Islam is a kind, caring religion [Re: Amanda Syme]  
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"But while it is true that most such killings are carried out in conservative Muslim communities, the practice is linked more to the customs of this region of Turkey, than to religious belief. The family will try to pretend that she never existed."

#366414 - 02/05/10 02:39 PM Re: Islam is a kind, caring religion [Re: Amanda Syme]  
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I agree with Amanda, we must be carful with what brush we paint our picture with.

#366419 - 02/05/10 02:51 PM Re: Islam is a kind, caring religion [Re: mountain Larry]  
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#366431 - 02/05/10 03:15 PM Re: Islam is a kind, caring religion [Re: captjeff]  
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True Amanda, but these things only seem to happen in Muslim communities. We've had too many "honour" killings in Britain and other European countries, and always associated with the Muslim communities there.

#366436 - 02/05/10 03:23 PM Re: Islam is a kind, caring religion [Re: Peter Jones]  
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What a load of crap. Up here, a couple of days ago, an Australian woman killed her two small children by drowning them in the bathtub. She was in a custody dispute with her Canadian husband. No Muslim/Islam involvement. It's a sad and sorry state of affairs, that's true. There are many sad and sorry things happening all over the world, acts done by human beings of all religions, non-religions and states of mind or despair. But many portions of this thread are only evidence of ignorance and hate mongering, by those that should know better. It's making me sick.

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#366443 - 02/05/10 03:47 PM Re: Islam is a kind, caring religion [Re: seashell]  
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Many atrocious acts have been committed in the name of Christianity but when someone does something bad these days you don't see people going "ooo they were a Christian, it must be because of their religion”. Small minded people trying to stir the pot is what keeps fanning the fires of mistrust and hatred.

#366449 - 02/05/10 04:02 PM Re: Islam is a kind, caring religion [Re: SimonB]  
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Perhaps a look at the structure of Turkey might clarify things. The country is trying to become a modern secular society to support its application to join the EU, but the vast majority of people there are deeply religious and reject what their government is trying to do. The only mass religion found there is Islam. I haven't found any report of this murder that mentions religion, but this
and this
help to substantiate what I have just said. In addition, I am not aware of any other social structure other than a Muslim/Islamic one that holds "honour killings" to be not just justified but mandated. Sure there are murders in all societies, but "honour killings" are a very special phenomenon associated AFAIK only with Muslim societies.

I am astonished at the inability of some to see what is going on, put it in context, and have a rational discussion about it. This is not remotely a "hate" thread, nor is it attempting to typify Muslims. It is however referring to a trait that is sadly too common in Muslim countries and communities-within-countries, and especially in Turkey.

#366457 - 02/05/10 05:07 PM Re: Islam is a kind, caring religion [Re: Peter Jones]  
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