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#391518 - 11/01/10 04:50 PM Alcohol compared to Pot and other Drugs.....  
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This link was just posted on another thread, but may interest readers who don't care about politics...

Drug Experts Say Alcohol Worse Than Crack or Heroin
Published November 01, 2010


Alcohol is a more dangerous drug than both crack and heroin when the combined harms to the user and to others are assessed, British scientists said Monday.

Presenting a new scale of drug harm that rates the damage to users themselves and to wider society, the scientists rated alcohol the most harmful overall and almost three times as harmful as cocaine or tobacco.

According to the scale, devised by a group of scientists including Britain's Independent Scientific Committee on Drugs (ISCD) and an expert adviser to the European Monitoring Center for Drugs and Drug Addiction (EMCDDA), heroin and crack cocaine rank as the second and third most harmful drugs.

Ecstasy is only an eighth as harmful as alcohol, according to the scientists' analysis.
Professor David Nutt, chairman of the ISCD, whose work was published in the Lancet medical journal, said the findings showed that "aggressively targeting alcohol harms is a valid and necessary public health strategy."

He said they also showed that current drug classification systems had little relation to the evidence of harm.

Alcohol and tobacco are legal for adults in Britain and many other countries, while drugs such as ecstasy and cannabis and LSD are often illegal and carry the threat of prison sentences.

"It is intriguing to note that the two legal drugs assessed -- alcohol and tobacco -- score in the upper segment of the ranking scale, indicating that legal drugs cause at least as much harm as do illegal substances," Nutt, who was formerly head of the influential British Advisory Council on the Misuse of Drugs (ACMD), said in a statement about the study.

Nutt was forced to quit the ACMD a year ago after publicly criticizing ministers for ignoring scientific advice suggesting cannabis was less harmful than alcohol.

The World Health Organization estimates that risks linked to alcohol cause 2.5 million deaths a year from heart and liver disease, road accidents, suicides and cancer -- accounting for 3.8 percent of all deaths. It is the third leading risk factor for premature death and disabilities worldwide.

In an effort to offer a guide to policy makers in health, policing, and social care, Nutt's team rated drugs using a technique called multicriteria decision analysis (MCDA) which assessed damage according to nine criteria on harm to the user and seven criteria on harm to others.

Harms to the user included things such as drug-specific or drug-related death, damage to health, drug dependence and loss of relationships, while harms to others included crime, environmental damage, family conflict, international damage, economic cost, and damage to community cohesion.

Drugs were then scored out of 100, with 100 given to the most harmful drug and zero indicating no harm at all.

The scientists found alcohol was most harmful, with a score of 72, followed by heroin with 55 and crack with 54.
Among some of the other drugs assessed were crystal meth (33), cocaine (27), tobacco (26), amphetamine or speed (23), cannabis (20), benzodiazepines, such as Valium (15), ketamine (15), methadone (14), mephedrone (13), ecstasy (9), anabolic steroids (9), LSD (7) and magic mushrooms (5).

It's rarely rocket science, it's usually just math: then again if you can't do the math.......
#391520 - 11/01/10 04:57 PM Re: Alcohol compared to Pot and other Drugs..... [Re: pugwash]  
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If we legalize pot, the criminals will be out of business. Mexico might become safer and our jails could house the real criminals, like politicians and such!

#391525 - 11/01/10 05:06 PM Re: Alcohol compared to Pot and other Drugs..... [Re: reaper]  
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And we get to tax the income thereby saving the country from economic disaster. Lets hear it for the legalization of pot.

#391526 - 11/01/10 05:08 PM Re: Alcohol compared to Pot and other Drugs..... [Re: pugwash]  
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amen reaper. California is the leader in this move.

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#391527 - 11/01/10 05:09 PM Re: Alcohol compared to Pot and other Drugs..... [Re: pugwash]  
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The politicos will own the pot fields so criminals will still profit.

Last edited by champion; 11/01/10 05:12 PM.

Reality is only an illusion that occurs due to a lack of alcohol
#391530 - 11/01/10 05:41 PM Re: Alcohol compared to Pot and other Drugs..... [Re: pugwash]  
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Probably so, champion.

Prop 19 will likely not pass.....Mexico sure doesn't want it to!

#391533 - 11/01/10 06:08 PM Re: Alcohol compared to Pot and other Drugs..... [Re: pugwash]  
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Pot is, like, well, SMOKING. We see (especially in MN) how smoking is portrayed, how you can't smoke in any public place, no restaurants, no bars. No smoking on any schoolgrounds, parks are in the works to ban it, as are many condos and apartment buildings. Is pot going to be exempt if it's legalized?

Some things never cease to amaze me. I had an ex-brother-in-law that was a pothead, and one that was a boozer. Neither one lasted very long in the family.

Been there, done that, the washing machine ate the T-shirt
#391534 - 11/01/10 06:17 PM Re: Alcohol compared to Pot and other Drugs..... [Re: pugwash]  
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Of course it won't be exempt.
That is a great control for moderation, don't you agree?
People who against legalization should be consoled by the fact its smoking and smoking is something you cant just do anywhere any time.

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#391535 - 11/01/10 06:19 PM Re: Alcohol compared to Pot and other Drugs..... [Re: Bobber]  
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What family you talkin bout? Maffioso or what? LOL

Reality is only an illusion that occurs due to a lack of alcohol
#391536 - 11/01/10 06:26 PM Re: Alcohol compared to Pot and other Drugs..... [Re: pugwash]  
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Still, alcoholism kills more people than all of those drugs combined.....

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