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Joe Coye blasts his party. Sour grapes? #405152
04/15/11 08:45 AM
04/15/11 08:45 AM
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Is it a case of a fox and the sour grapes? According to Joe Coye who lost terribly to Anthony Mahler last Sunday in the Caribbean Shores, it is rather a case of “grapes of rational wrath.” So ends a statement Coye issued today following his defeat as standard bearer in the Caribbean Shores where he had been a political force for twenty years. It all started this morning when Coye called the P.U.P.’s Vibes Radio to chastise the party and its leadership claiming the opposition is not a credible alternative. Then came the explosive statement against his own party. Coye recalls that in the campaign of 2008, his family got the full brunt of U.D.P. attacks and according to him, he finds its reprehensive that the line of attacks against his family was repeated last Sunday, but this time it came from the blue sea of a paid mob. News Five pressed Coye on what he said is a smear campaign against him.

Isani Cayetano

“Would you believe, at this point, as though your party has betrayed you by the actions taken during the convention?”

Jose Coye, Defeated P.U.P. Candidate, Caribbean Shores

Jose Coye

“No. I cannot take the action of a group supporting a candidate to treat it as if though that was a party’s decision. I would not do that. I wouldn’t say the party has betrayed [me]. Again I am not in any way opposing or complaining about anyone who chooses to support a candidate within. That was not really my concern although that was there in a very overwhelming way but I am not too concerned about that. I repeat my position that it’s about the negative campaigning, the dirty politics, the smearing which persisted throughout the campaign and right up to the day of the conventions and the undue influence with money. Those are my two concerns mainly.”

Isani Cayetano

“Mr. Coye you ended off your statement by saying that the release is not one of sour grapes but [one] of another kind. One would want to think that you have been defeated [so] why not leave things the way they are?”

Jose Coye

“Your question is one that is not surprising because I sense that whenever one makes a complaint about these kinds of things the first thing you will be accused of is that it’s because you did it. Well if someone burglarizes your home and you believe that you have lost maybe then you shouldn’t report it. So I really don’t see it that way. I believe I took a position on principle and I believe that this is an example, it’s an unfortunate example of an irresponsible way of conducting a convention and it will not enhance the party. So it’s easy to be accused of being the views of sour grapes. Those are the grapes of rational wrath and that’s why I made that release.”

Isani Cayetano

“Are you prepared to support the standard bearer in the Caribbean Shores Division?”

Jose Coye

“My intention is not to do anything that will undermine the People’s United Party at the poles. But what I am doing here is to enhance it and that’s what I want to make very clear. I am making this known now because it’s something that we must put a stop to and if we don’t it could hurt us in the elections. If we carry out these kinds of campaigns, and I think it should be right across the board, not only within the P.U.P. I think this thing about buying votes to win elections, these things about negative campaigns and the types of negative campaigns; I think we have gone too far. There must be some minimum standing as to how we will choose our candidates and our standard bearers or representatives in this country.”

So what’s next for the defeated Coye? The P.U.P. is not commenting on the statement so it’s hard to know what is next. Coye as former standard bearer of the Caribbean was named chairman of the Eastern Caucus and as such holds an executive position in the P.U.P. But now that he is political wilderness, time will tell if he will removed.

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Re: Joe Coye blasts his party. Sour grapes? [Re: Marty] #405155
04/15/11 08:48 AM
04/15/11 08:48 AM
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Marty Offline OP

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Joe Coye, Not Sour Grapes, But Grapes Of Wrath

Joe Coye has been soundly beaten in two successive elections: first the general election of 2008 where he was beaten by over a thousand votes, and then in the PUP Standard Bearer Convention last Sunday when he was beaten by a margin of more than two to one.

With that, you might think Coye would be content to slide into the background, but the always demonstrative public figure today issued a fiery release, calling out former friends, newfound foes, and raging against money politics. The statement is grandly titled, "The Irony Of Democracy" and speaks about the conduct of his opponent, at Sunday's convention.

Coye states that what he found "most reprehensible" is, quote, "a line of attack made against my family and I in the homes of voters and on the day of the convention - the vilification and acrimony hurled at me and my supporters by the blue sea of a paid mob."

He continues, "In one of the camps of one of the candidates I saw the faces of those in the upper hierarchy of the party. I saw them in numbers from Fort George and Pickstock. I saw both members and surrogates of the G-7 and those who were opposed to it now lining up against me."

Coye's statement goes unto speak about, quote, a "display of seductive wealth" by his opponent, and an abundance of blue notes that were flooding the homes and streets - all to defeat …one of their own." Coye ends by asking, "who paid for all this and why?" and laments that the masses elect the leaders but the elites choose who will be leaders.

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Re: Joe Coye blasts his party. Sour grapes? [Re: Marty] #405265
04/16/11 09:10 AM
04/16/11 09:10 AM
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Joe blames dirty politics and $$$!

Former Caribbean Shores area representative and former minister, senator and mayor of Belize City under the Opposition People’s United Party (PUP), Jose Coye, has refused “to go quietly into the sunset” after the results of Sunday’s convention for PUP standard bearer in the North-side Belize City division left him out in the cold.

Coye was soundly defeated by his opponent, Anthony Mahler.

Mahler, an employee at the SMART telecommunications company, beat Coye, an accountant by profession, and a third candidate, Austin Waight, a former national political aspirant and Belize City Council candidate, with nearly 63% of the vote to Coye’s 30%, and 5% for Waight.

He told Amandala just prior to the announcement of the results on Sunday that, “the people [had] spoken and decided that it was time for someone new,” when we asked how meaningful it was to him that he had beaten Coye, and done so convincingly.

But in a signed communication sent to Amandala today, titled “The Irony of Democracy,” Coye railed against the “undue influence” exercised on many of his supporters, and went on to mention the “reprehensibleline of attack made against my family and I …the vilification and acrimony hurled at me and my supporters by the blue sea [his own party, the PUP] of a paid mob.”

Coye claimed that in the camp of one of his opponents, he saw “the faces of those in the upper hierarchy of the party…in numbers from Fort George and Pickstock…both members and surrogates of the G-7 and those who were opposed to it, now lining up against” him.

Coye also said that the ruling UDP interfered in the convention: In his statement he spoke of seeing the “money influence of external forces, such as the UDP [United Democratic Party].”

The G-7, or Group of Seven, was an informal grouping of prominent members of former Prime Minister Said Musa’s Cabinet, that in August of 2004, made demands on him in the wake of a scandal at the Social Security Board (SSB). The G-7 initially resigned, but were eventually persuaded to return to Cabinet, and some of their demands were acceded to.

This same camp, Coye goes on to claim, made an “ostentatious display of seductive wealth,” including big tents, large billboards, nearly 40 taxis lining the nearby Lopez Mateos Park and displaying posters of the candidate, expensive DJ’s and a sound system, cheerleaders — and, he added, “to round it off, an abundance of blue notes that were flooding the homes and streets – all to defeat whom, one of their own??!!

Coye’s communication named no names, but asked: “…who paid for all this and why? The English political philosopher John Stuart Mill argues that people can know truth only by discovering it for themselves. Find those who came with their strings attached, follow their stings (sic) and you will find the truth.” He concluded, “These are not the views of sour grapes, but the ‘grapes of rational wrath.’”

In today’s Guardian, party organ of the UDP, one Ramon Castillo writes in a commentary on the convention, “I believe what really stunned some at the convention was the physical revelation that Mahler’s bankroller was none other than Godfrey Smith, the very man who has publicly scathed Mahler’s Party Leader, John Briceño… It wasn’t like Godfrey was commanding the operation from afar…the Ashcroft emissary was clothed in PUP blue and greeting the voters of Caribbean Shores while his bagman … doled out the cash. …I’m sure Coye was fully aware that John Briceño and his executive were all supporting Mahler against him. What I don’t think he was aware of…is to have found out that his opponent was being financed by his former Cabinet colleague and fellow G-7 ally.”

Castillo referred to Smith’s online column Flashpoint, in which he recently made a public call for Briceño to resign.

When Amandala visited the convention grounds, we saw Smith, an attorney, senior counsel and former attorney general, standing near the entrance to Trinity Methodist School, the site of the convention on Sunday afternoon.

Coye thanked his supporters, both those who were present on Sunday and those who have been there over his 22-year political career, but lamented, “…I believe that the times and circumstances have been changed by some of the very men and women in whom I so believed…in both political parties. Too many have lost their sense of intimacy, self became the universal reference for decision-making, and it is no longer what is in it for the people, but what is in it for ‘I’.”

He added, forcefully, “It is commonly felt today that the elites, not the masses, govern the society. Sunday’s convention lends truth to the perception that in our democracy the masses elect the leaders but the elites choose who will be leaders. This, I believe, is the ‘IRONY OF OUR DEMACRACY (sic)’.”

Mahler could not be reached for comment at press time, but Smith, this evening in a telephone interview with Amandala, denied the Guardian’s suggestions as “nonsensical,” and the references to his office employee as a “bagman,” as “a complete fabrication.”

Smith told us, “Yes, I was out there for several hours; I had on an Anthony Mahler t-shirt; I was giving him moral support. I know him well. I have worked with him . I know his abilities, and I believe that he was the better candidate and that’s why I gave him my support.”

When we asked him how the PUP would move forward in light of the allegations, Smith said that he could not comment on that, and that we could not speak to him as if he were involved with the party, because, he stated “I am not. I am not involved in the PUP at present…I am not engaged with the People’s United Party, or any other political party, at this time.

He noted that in addition to criticizing Briceno’s leadership, he had also criticized the UDP and the administration of Prime Minister Dean Barrow in Flashpoint , his online blog, and that both parties had issued statements against him in relation to those comments.

Smith also confirmed that he would not seek his old seat in Pickstock, which goes to convention for the PUP on Labour Day, May 1. Smith’s brother, medical doctor Francis Smith, is a confirmed candidate for that convention.


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