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#411849 - 07/15/11 01:49 PM All piers public?  
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Hello, I thought I read somewhere that all piers in San Pedro were considered public and, for example, owners couldn't legally put a gate on them or prevent people from going on them. Is that true or did I misread that?

#411850 - 07/15/11 02:11 PM Re: All piers public? [Re: JoeCirig]  
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Your correct, and its illegal to hold up a Liquor Store with a pistol, but some people do it anyway.

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#411852 - 07/15/11 02:39 PM Re: All piers public? [Re: JoeCirig]  
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As I understand it, all seashore in Belize is owned by the GOB, 66 feet from the waterline.
This rule is obviously broken all over the country, my lot and many others come within 10 or so feet.
This ownership includes docks, which in Belize are built and maintained by the people who's property abbuts the sea frontage, after they have applied and received permission from the Gov. to build them.
This Gov. owned seashore rule is in effect in lots of countries, it was the same in Costa Rica and Florida.
It has it's roots in old maritime law, stops denial of people in distress (at sea) from safe landing.
As always in Belize, a dispute would bring varied arbitrary results, depends on who's dock and who wants to walk on it.
There are lots of docks on CC that have signs and gates.
I had one resentful old codger with an unmarked dock tell me it would be $50 per bonefish caught off his.
I laughed, told him the bonefish are free, he doesn't own the dock, but moved 50 feet to the next one to avoid opening a can of worms.
In typical Belize fashion, for years now he crosses the street when he sees me.

#411854 - 07/15/11 02:44 PM Re: All piers public? [Re: JoeCirig]  
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To be exact, you own the dock but the gov. owns all "land"up to high water mark. Similar to building a storage with permission on someones land. You still own your storage bldg.
The 66 feet refers to a right of way, not ownership.

#411856 - 07/15/11 02:57 PM Re: All piers public? [Re: Dane]  
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If you own the dock and can not control who can be on it , then who has liability if someone is hurt . What if a group decides to have a party on your dock , you can't say anything ?

#411857 - 07/15/11 03:04 PM Re: All piers public? [Re: PJBELIZE]  
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Call the cops....that'll get lots of results

#411859 - 07/15/11 03:07 PM Re: All piers public? [Re: PJBELIZE]  
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Liability in Belize is much different than the US. You get hurt you pay for the damage you caused to the pier. Most locals respect your dock and your peace and tranquility. I found that the ones who abuse others docks are visitors who think this is disneyland. If people are getting too loud, ask them to quiet down and if that don't work the police will ask them for you.

#411860 - 07/15/11 03:30 PM Re: All piers public? [Re: JoeCirig]  
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I've seen letters form Belmopan reminding dock owners their dock is by permission and that permission can be taken back if misconduct like gates and signs about private piers are persistent but never any actions against offenders.
Urban myth type rules and laws float around about rents, overnight fees and North side this and South side that, but they just are not true. Very little is stated about rules and regulations. The Town Board is one of the biggest Propagators of Urban Myths about dock and beach laws. Check out 'Laws of Belize'Its always the bottom line..

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#411861 - 07/15/11 03:35 PM Re: All piers public? [Re: ron]  
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Is ownership of YOUR dock like riparian rights in the US . It's yours as long as it's O.K. with the government

#411863 - 07/15/11 03:42 PM Re: All piers public? [Re: JoeCirig]  
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I guess ..sort of . Your leasing the sea bed it sits on and that lease can be cancelled, so technically you should get your dock off their sea bed! I suppose.

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