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Re: Couple didn’t get Condo and attorney returned fee [Re: Marty] #455590
01/18/13 03:26 PM
01/18/13 03:26 PM
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Diane You need to understand something Everything that my wife and I stated to the news media was TRUTH!!! The media in no way printed any false information except for the Channel 5 news heading was wrong. So if you are saying the media is biased against this attorney you are calling us a liar? Tropic Guy is my neighbor and we have seen all his documentations and e-mails pertaining to this issue as well as us sharing our information with him and the media. If you don't live at Reef Village you have no clue what is going on. Lets try and keep this focused on the main issue here which is Saldivar returning all of our money.

Re: Couple didn’t get Condo and attorney returned fee [Re: Marty] #455594
01/18/13 05:27 PM
01/18/13 05:27 PM
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I am an owner that had met with Saldivar, signed transfer documents, but was fortunately in the process of sending funds when this situation started to develope and was able to delay this task. There are 3 major issues here which need to be addressed 1) Why haven't the funds been returned immediately upon request, in Canada and I'm sure the US these funds would be held in trust...where is the money and what has it been used for? 2) A portion of the funds are for the attorney's fees, but the majority is stamp tax duty which should have been submitted to GOB, the GOB should be very concerned with this. 3) Where are the titles? The owners paid and the Saldivar collected their fees on the instructions from the developer that the titles would be available, where are the titles?

Re: Couple didn’t get Condo and attorney returned fee [Re: Marty] #455596
01/18/13 05:46 PM
01/18/13 05:46 PM
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Diane was stating a fact known to us all in Belize, not implying anything about you
Railing at her won't get your money back, but it can sure lose you the public sympathy you are employing to motivate this rascal to pay you.
Your frustration is justified, but maybe you should focus your ire at the enemy.

Re: Couple didn’t get Condo and attorney returned fee [Re: Marty] #455598
01/18/13 06:03 PM
01/18/13 06:03 PM
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Thanks Bartman. Hope your feeling better.

I ask all that read this board to please keep the focus on this attorney. Many of us have suffered long enough and need these funds returned so we can finally own, move on with our lives, and stop being victims.

We simply want happiness here in Belize, just as all you readers do.

For those that support us, Thank You.

Re: Couple didn’t get Condo and attorney returned fee [Re: Marty] #455599
01/18/13 06:31 PM
01/18/13 06:31 PM
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As a practicing attorney in the U.S., we are subject to strict professional responsibility laws and severe disciplinary actions for violation of them (public reproval, suspension, disbarment, etc). Some of the most serious violations are failure to make an accounting, commingling client funds or failure to keep funds in a separate client trust account. I would bet Belize law has some similar provisions. You need to get at him where it hurts: his livelihood.

Take it to the Bar. Someone just posted the Belize Bar website. I just looked at it and there is a document called "Form of Application Against an Attorney". Looks like that is a good place to start.

Good luck!

Re: Couple didn’t get Condo and attorney returned fee [Re: Dane] #455600
01/18/13 06:46 PM
01/18/13 06:46 PM
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San Pedro AC Belize
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Originally Posted by Dane
Diane was stating a fact known to us all in Belize, not implying anything about you
Railing at her won't get your money back, but it can sure lose you the public sympathy you are employing to motivate this rascal to pay you.
Your frustration is justified, but maybe you should focus your ire at the enemy.

Thanks Dane - well put and much appreciated.

Re: Couple didn’t get Condo and attorney returned [Re: Diane Campbell] #455607
01/18/13 08:57 PM
01/18/13 08:57 PM
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May I ask who recommended Saldivar to collect the fees to process these titles, and were you given any other choice for lawyers?
Also, what developers on AC have been using Saldivar's services for these transactions?

Re: Couple didn’t get Condo and attorney returned [Re: Marty] #455617
01/19/13 12:24 AM
01/19/13 12:24 AM
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I feel for these folks. I would be in the same boat had I not gotten a bad vibe about Mr. Saldivar.
In July of 2008 I was told that the titles were ready to be transfered and the paper work was sent to me. I booked a trip so that I could meet with the lawyer and complete the transaction. One evening at Reef Village I was introduced to Mr. Saldivar by Mr. Jeff Pierce the developer of Reef Village. I asked Mr. Saldivar if he wanted a glass of wine and he first asked Mr. Pierce if it was O.K. Now I knew who was in control and I did not feel very comfortable about it. I did not complete the transaction. To this day nearly 2/3 of the owners at Reef Village who have invested there hard earned money for a place in the sun are still without titles. This is a disgrace. I would think that the Government of Belize would like to have the Stamp Duty. I know there are nearly 100 owners at Reef Village that would be willing to pay the tax in order to get there titles. Why can't we get this done?

Last edited by cav; 01/21/13 05:34 PM.
Re: Couple didn’t get Condo and attorney returned [Re: Marty] #455669
01/19/13 01:32 PM
01/19/13 01:32 PM
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I believe a complaint to the Bar Association will yield exactly the same result as a complaint to IA regarding "rogue" police officers...NONE...

Re: Couple didn’t get Condo and attorney returned [Re: Marty] #455825
01/21/13 08:27 AM
01/21/13 08:27 AM
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American couple claims fraud by Belizean Attorney

Attorney blames delays at the Lands Department for incomplete work

John-Cynthia-Englehardt“We chose to buy a condo in Belize because we fell in love with the country,” said John Englehardt as he and his wife Cynthia detailed their bad experience with their Belizean hired attorney, who for over three years have not been able to provide them it the title to the property. The Englehardts are from Michigan, USA, and they said that they hired Arthur Saldivar, paid him over $13,000BZ, but to date has not completed his job. Even worse, they claim, is that Saldivar has been avoiding them. The frustrated couple said that they felt that their only other option was to reach out to the Belizean press to explain the bad experience in an effort to recuperate their monies back.

According to the Englehardts in late 2009, they began looking to invest their hard-earned savings in a place they loved. After scouting, they decided to purchase a condo at Reef Village, paying US$115,000 in early 2010. But the coupled detailed that in order for them to legally obtain a strata title, they had to hire an attorney. Cynthia said that she paid Saldivar in February of 2010, 1% of the value of condo and all the government fees that he had listed to complete the Transfer of Title for Unit H202 at Reef Village Resort.

“Over three years ago, when we purchased down here, we used attorney Arthur Saldivar to take care of our title work. He assured us that we would have our titles within four weeks after we paid our stamp duty tax and his fees to him, which we did. It is now 2013, we still have not received title and Mr. Saldivar repeatedly fails to answer or correspond with us in any way, shape or form. We have emailed him numerous times and he fails to reply. So we’re really lost and we know we’re not the only ones in this position,” said John Eglehardt. His wife Cynthia said, “There are 10 of us that I know are in this [same] situation.” If one calculated, based on the charges – including government fees – payments would amount to about $75,000 to $100,000 in payment that Saldivar has received. But what made the matter even worse for the couple is that Saldivar has been incommunicado since the 20th of April 2010 when he responded for the last time to couple via email, after Cynthia began inquiring about the possible delay in obtaining the title. “There is no problem other than the fact that bureaucracy moves at a snail’s pace,’ said Saldivar’s email to Cynthia after she wrote explaining that “My title should have been ready in four weeks or less after receipt of payment and fees. I have given you my home mailing address yet have not received the title. Is there a problem?”

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