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Re: Caye Caulker streets to be repaired says area rep [Re: Marty] #480998
12/28/13 03:54 PM
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" I donít know what are the issues because I havenít been to Caye Caulker."
No shit...maybe that's part of the problem, whaddaya think, Manny?! We could have elected the tooth fairy or easter bunny for our representative and gotten more sightings than with Mr. Heredia. HEAR HEAR also to the comment on how a tourism minister can support dredging. When we all live off snorkeling, diving or fishing, directly or indirectly. And yes we need sand on CC and so some dredging has to take place. Compromise. But nobody can seriously suggest it's not damaging to the seagrass beds and reef - thereby not only damagaing our livelihoods (=sea life), but also removing invaluable erosion barriers. So, to damage CC's environment to supply SP's development needs seems pretty crazy...

Re: Caye Caulker streets to be repaired says area rep [Re: Chris7] #481003
12/28/13 05:32 PM
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Heredia is a .... well , politician = crook


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Re: Caye Caulker streets to be repaired says area rep [Re: Marty] #481010
12/28/13 06:17 PM
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Hear, Hear, and dont forget what dredging does to the lobster population.


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Re: Caye Caulker streets to be repaired says area rep [Re: Marty] #481124
12/29/13 05:44 PM
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Sorry Mike but did you read your offered report? Nothing there about seagrasses. If turbidity was a problem to seagrass there wouldn't be none. Your report addresses the very unfortunate situation when unregulated assholes dredge near enough to coral to allow deposition there on. Certainly not the case in this discussion.
No Ernie I'm not a dredger but would not feel any less "green" if I were.
Twenty years may well be right Dane, I only know from historic satellite imagery hereabouts that suggests around 8 to 10 years (after hurricanes) but correct me if I'm wrong. Turtle grass is of course very important to the ecosystem. As humans we normally accept a little net loss as the cost of being us. Perhaps we should all tear our houses down.

Re: Caye Caulker streets to be repaired says area rep [Re: Marty] #481125
12/29/13 06:07 PM
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What am I not supposed to forget about lobster and dredging Debbie?

Re: Caye Caulker streets to be repaired says area rep [Re: Marty] #481135
12/30/13 01:50 AM
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The spots we dredged look better after 8 to ten years. I supposed from a Google space image they would look even better.
Hurricanes make a complex change that often benefits the reef and grass by scattering nutrients.

Re: Caye Caulker streets to be repaired says area rep [Re: Nate] #481223
12/30/13 05:47 PM
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Nate you clearly do not understand the interdependency of life in the sea. Dredging causes excessive turbidity which by the report can have long term effects that may or may not be recoverable. One significant effect in the report is decreased photosynthesis...how do you think seagrasses survive? Seagrass beds harbor life that feeds other life that feed the reef.

One fact is for sure...if the reef environment dies, so does tourism in Belize. Without that there will be no need for the beaches, ports, roads and other infrastructure being created by dredging. Nature can heal itself but when man disrupts the cycle the results can be devastating and irreversible.

A mountain of sand the size removed by the dredging clearly caused significant disturbance in the sea, the consequences of which have not been fully realized yet. STOP THE MADNESS.

Re: Caye Caulker streets to be repaired says area rep [Re: MikeD] #481225
12/30/13 06:10 PM
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Re: Caye Caulker streets to be repaired says area rep [Re: Marty] #481237
12/31/13 02:43 AM
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Mike knows what he is talking about.

Re: Caye Caulker streets to be repaired says area rep [Re: Marty] #481305
12/31/13 01:21 PM
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Gee Mike now your making this personal. I've said my peace. I'm sure I've pointed out to cooler heads here not to to take knee jerk statements about how dredging is killing the reef at face value. There is far more turbidity caused near the island by natural causes than any dredging (hand or power) could come close to. Check the beach on a windy day, particularly back side in a norther. Turbidity affecting coral is a non issue in this case. If you can refute that call the authorities.
The only case for dredging nearby being detrimental to the ecosystem would be in the actual seabed dredged. As I've said this is minor, renewable and if done wisely could have certain positives. Fisherman speak anecdotally of increased catches at dredge sites. The split could be made navigable to deeper draft vessels. Hell we could have a marina for deep draft visiting cruisers. I never hear your complaints with the far larger dredging frontside for beach renewal.

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