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#493877 - 07/26/14 09:17 AM Sale of the Split  
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Tammy Barnett Offline
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I heard the Split was sold. What will this do to the access to this part of the island?

#493878 - 07/26/14 12:59 PM Re: Sale of the Split [Re: Tammy Barnett]  
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Wish I had a dollar for every time it was!

#494010 - 07/30/14 07:03 AM Re: Sale of the Split [Re: Tammy Barnett]  
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It hasn't sold.

#494016 - 07/30/14 12:00 PM Re: Sale of the Split [Re: Tammy Barnett]  
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It is being fixed up. Chairman Miller is working to keep it open during the upgrade and has asked the owners to announce their plans so folks won't worry.
Thanks village Council for being on top of this.

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#494034 - 07/30/14 04:55 PM Re: Sale of the Split [Re: Tammy Barnett]  
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Seriously, it is being fixed up?
That's why they spent a bundle driving huge pilings all over the property?
There's one right in front of the condo building entrance and several in inappropriate locations for a fix-up, these look like exploration for bedrock and location of the dreaded cave for a major project.
More likely the people with the money to do this are simply not taking questions from anyone.

#494038 - 07/30/14 06:57 PM Re: Sale of the Split [Re: Tammy Barnett]  
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Change is inevitable and if they close it off to the general public then people will find somewhere else to swim and hang out. It's not the end of the universe. It's private property they can do with it what they want, they are the owners. If you truly want to find out what they are doing then ask them to their face rather than insulting them on the internet for developing their property. And if you don't know who the owner is then you can go to the lands department in Belmopan and find out who it is.

#494066 - 07/31/14 11:01 AM Re: Sale of the Split [Re: Tammy Barnett]  
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I know the owner. It isn't a secret.
If a property changes hands the lawyers inform village council for tax reasons.

I know where the cave is. That is no secret either.
It was mapped out from below by divers. Some folks claim it has many unexplored areas at the Split.
That may be true. Or maybe not.
That claim seems based on the principle that if I don't have any solid facts I can conclude anything I want.
It is likely much deeper under the ground than folks with no info have claimed.

Several past groups considering trying to open a surface access have been disappointed when finding out how deep underground it is.
Heres a hint. The split was thirty feet deep when I measured it and is not breaking into the cave.
They are fixing up and building more structures to use to make money and have been doing this for twenty five years.
It is likely they do not have the legal right to close it any case because of the right of way along the sea.
That right is often not enforced until someone complains.
That has happened twice in my memory at the Split.

Last edited by Dane; 07/31/14 11:47 AM.
#494067 - 07/31/14 11:50 AM Re: Sale of the Split [Re: Tammy Barnett]  
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Everyone knows the owner on tiny Caye Caulker, that doesn't mean he's confiding in anyone.
With all respect to Mr Miller, developers in Belize often go over the local Village Council's head, to area reps and others on up.
As far as caves go there are pockets and chambers all over the island not connected to "THE" cave.
These are not formed by engineers with transits and levels.
And yes, they cannot close the split itself, but they can put up a wall on the perimeter of the private property and pretty much make it a lot harder to access.

#494084 - 07/31/14 03:32 PM Re: Sale of the Split [Re: Tammy Barnett]  
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Tell me how you located them. Are there some at the Split?
I have driven a lot of pilings and made test bores, along wth digging dozens of wells.
The ground of the Caye is layers of soft and slighter harder material. When the piling goes down easy it has been a layer of soft material in every case we could determine, while folks stand around and say its the cave. Even the walls of the cave itself is not bedrock. It is a crumbly material locals call laja.

A developer does not have to go over the head of the CCVC. They have little to do with those issues. The point I was making was that a sale is reported to CCVC.

#494085 - 07/31/14 03:37 PM Re: Sale of the Split [Re: Tammy Barnett]  
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Yet, accessed it would still be. Ergo anyone with sense would not try to stem the flow. I can see it now, people, families, tourists etc., knee deep with all of the beach belongings and coolers leaned up and or hanging off perimeter walls. Kids still jumping from flexible logs hanging outbover the water. What a vision. smile

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