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Re: Six Years for Teen Burglar from San Pedro [Re: Marty] #528023
12/31/17 11:22 PM
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Well said.

Re: Six Years for Teen Burglar from San Pedro [Re: Marty] #528030
01/01/18 10:00 PM
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Interesting... I have no dog in this discussion... Safecracker does for two reasons: one as a victim of this type of crime. I'm in the exact middle here.... Whatever the "standard" sentence is for a first time offender should be DOUBLED for the "no remorse" and stated so by the judge. I am a "tough o crime" kind of guy but 6 years is a lot for a first offense. Six years in the states equals some really violent crime.

HAPPY NEW YEAR everybody.


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Re: Six Years for Teen Burglar from San Pedro [Re: AC Lover] #528041
01/02/18 02:01 PM
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The Belize prison system does have rehabilitation programs and teaches inmates skills such as carpentry etc.

Re: Six Years for Teen Burglar from San Pedro [Re: Safecracker] #528062
01/03/18 01:31 PM
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As someone whose job is to help reshape culture through behavioral science, I can't disagree more strongly.

"Incarceration is a basic tool of criminal justice, but when the sole purpose is punishment and confinement, offenders respond, in the privacy of their own minds, with resentment and defiance. The thinking that led them to offend is not extinguished by punishment; it is reinforced."

The US style prison system has proven to be an utter and complete failure on many levels. Not treating humans like humans is wrong, and will never lead to not only successful rehabilitation and re-entry into the public, but even more importantly, it doesn't deter or prevent the behavior from occurring in the first place, which is the ultimate goal. Big picture, long-term vision and goals over short-term retribution style thinking is what's required. As our buddy Einstein so accurately stated, "insanity is doing the same thing over and over again, but expecting different results". As well as, "we can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them". (That would be insane as well.)

If you want change, you have to step up, step in, and be a part of it.

Re: Six Years for Teen Burglar from San Pedro [Re: Amanda Syme] #528063
01/03/18 03:06 PM
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No sorrow here...... my sentiments exactly (Safecracker).....My husband and I lived in Saudi for 7 years as an expat, talk about zero tolerance! Not saying I agree with there barbaric punishments that were practiced - but break-ins & thievery were very low, almost unheard of. Consistency is the key here-no money for rehab, and I'm not convinced that it really works.

Re: Six Years for Teen Burglar from San Pedro [Re: Marty] #528064
01/04/18 12:06 AM
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No money for rehabilitation??? How much exactly do you think it costs to house inmates, take them through the judicial system, rinse, repeat when they reoffend.

And why does everyone equate trying to do something better and smarter with sorrow?

Re: Six Years for Teen Burglar from San Pedro [Re: Marty] #528073
01/04/18 06:44 AM
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Its the system we have. Its the system we have had for hundreds of years from the first to the third world. Everyone knows where you might end up. If you dont like the fact you might end up in a shitty jail with shitty conditions and shitty rehab dont put yourself in the position to go there. I cant believe people are whining.

Re: Six Years for Teen Burglar from San Pedro [Re: Marty] #528088
01/04/18 10:29 AM
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Absolutely Spot On Phil, like it or not it works. That guy won't be doing any burglaries for the next 6 years and will think twice about it after that.


"Life goes on despite others attempts to ruin it"
Re: Six Years for Teen Burglar from San Pedro [Re: Safecracker] #528092
01/04/18 06:09 PM
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Data proves that to be completely incorrect. (And it hasn't worked for hundreds of years, or we would be at zero crime by now.)

Re: Six Years for Teen Burglar from San Pedro [Re: Marty] #528095
01/05/18 12:37 AM
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No; Safecracker's assertion is 100% correct. If he's in prison he CAN"T reoffend.. And like he said; it MAY give him pause to reoffend. Having said that; I love the programs of dog training, mustang taming and job training in prison... Bottom line; be defiant and do more time than a remorseful felon.


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