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Belize-Guatemala ICJ Case #546614
12/01/20 02:07 PM
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Belize-Guatemala ICJ Case Starts in One Week

One week from today, the deadline will expire for Guatemala to present its claim to the International Court of Justice. Belize will then have until June 8, 2022 to present our counter memorials.

The claim Guatemala makes will let us know how serious a fight they truly intend to put forth. The bigger the claim the less serious they are about putting up a legal challenge to Belizean territory.

Stay tuned Belizeans.

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Re: Belize-Guatemala ICJ Case [Re: Marty] #546767
12/08/20 12:47 PM
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GUATEMALA/BELIZE MEMORIAL FILING DEADLINE IS TODAY

According to International Court of Justice documents, TODAY mark's Guatemala's deadline for submitting its claim to the ICJ. In 1859 Britain gave Guatemala a timeframe to accept their offer and Guatemala failed to respond in time.

In 2019, Guatemala had 12 months to lodge its claim to the International Court of Justice and again their Government's Agent did not respond in time, seeking an extension, as a result of the COVID-19 pandemic.

After deliberation, the ICJ granted a six month extension to Guatemala for filing its Memorial and that expires today December 8th, 2020.

According to an International Court of Justice General list No. 177 of April 22, 2020 , the following order was composed:-

"Having regard to the "Special Agreement between Guatemala and Belize to submit Guatemala's territorial, insular and maritime claim to the International Court of Justice" of 8 December 2008 (hereinafter the "Special Agreement") and the Protocol thereto of 25 May 2015 (hereinafter the "Protocol").

Having regard to the Order of 18 June 2019, whereby the Court, referring to Article 3, praragraph2, of the Special Agreement and to Article 3 of the Protocol, fixed 8 June 2020 and 8 June 2021, respectively, as the time-limits for the filing of a Memorial by the Republic of Guatemala and of a Counter-Memorial by Belize.

Whereas, by a letter dated 8 April 2020 and handed in to the Registry on the same day, the Agent of the Republic of Guatemala requested an extension of twelve months for the filing of Guatemala's Memorial, explaining that the COVID-19 pandemic had resulted in delays in his Government's preparation of that pleading, and whereas, upon receipt of that letter, the Registrar transmitted a copy thereof to the Agent of Belize, in accordance with Article 44, paragraph 3, of the Rules of Court.

Whereas, by a letter dated 15 April 2020 and received in the Registry on 16 April 2020, the Agent of Belize responded that the Government of Belize objected to Guatemala's request; he added however that, should the Court consider that the impact of the pandemic merited some extension, in his Government's opinion, an extension of two months would be sufficient in the circumstances;

Taking account of the views of the Parties -

EXTENDS to 8 December 2020 the time-limit for the filing of the Memorial of the Republic of Guatemala;

EXTENDS to 8 June 2022 the time-limit for the filing of the Counter-Memorial of Belize; and

RESERVES the subsequent procedure for further decision".

Signed

Abdulqawi Ahmed YUSUF - President
Philippe GAUTIER - Registrar

Re: Belize-Guatemala ICJ Case [Re: Marty] #546773
12/09/20 05:10 AM
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Guatemala submits its memorial on the Belize territorial claim to the ICJ

December 8th, 2020 - Today, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs received Guatemala’s Memorial in relation to Guatemala’s Territorial, Insular and Maritime Claim to Belizean territory which it filed at the International Court of Justice, in accordance with the Court’s order of 22 April 2020 extending the date for such submission following Guatemala’s request for extension, citing delays resulting from the COVID-19 pandemic.

The Guatemalan Memorial states what Guatemala is claiming in terms of continental land, islands and seas, and the legal grounds for such claims. It consists of one volume of 500 pages, 462 Annexes, 8 Maps and 24 Figures.

The ICJ rules do not allow Belize to disclose Guatemala’s pleadings, and Belize is obliged to abide by these rules. (Article 53(2))

At the same time, the Ministry is aware that all Belizeans are rightly anxious to know what Guatemala is claiming, since it has made varying claims to different parts of Belize’s territory over the years. While at times it has laid claim to all of Belizean territory, at others it has limited itself to claiming a part, albeit a substantial part.

The most explicit formulation of the claim made in modern times was that contained in a letter from Guatemala’s Foreign Minister addressed to Belize’s Prime Minister on 18 October 1999 (attached) in which, although the claim to other parts of the territory was not expressly abandoned, Guatemala declared that the territory between the rivers Sibun and Sarstoon should “revert” to Guatemala, being an integral part of the Verapaz province. The letter also protested the “de facto occupation of the islands adjacent to Belize.” Guatemalan governments since then have tended to follow the line laid down in that letter and have refrained from claiming the entire territory.

While it is constrained in what it can say by the ICJ Rules, the Ministry can reveal that Guatemala’s Memorial presents no surprises, no new claims that are different from those that have been made at different times in the past, which are well documented.

The Court’s order of 22 April 2020 also extended until 8 June 2022 the time for the filing of Belize’s Counter-Memorial. The Belize Office of the Agent to the ICJ, in collaboration with the international team of experts, is already at work in preparing Belize’s Counter Memorial which will resolutely reject Guatemala’s Claim and strongly assert Belize’s claim to all its territory, islands and seas in accordance with international law.

The Ministry can also state that, maintaining absolute respect for the Court and its esteemed Judges, Belize remains confident of its sovereignty over all the territory we succeeded to from the United Kingdom at independence on 21 September 1981 and over all the maritime areas to which we are entitled by the law of the sea. Belizeans can be secure in the knowledge that our rights and interests are well preserved by our local and international teams of experts and with confidence in the justice dispensed by the ICJ that it has demonstrated in years of adjudicating territorial disputes.

Belize’s Agent at the ICJ is Dr. Assad Shoman and Co-agent is Ambassador Alexis Rosado. Belize’s international team is comprised of Senior Counsel Sam Wordsworth QC, Dr. Ben Juratowith QC and Mathias Forteau; Junior Counsel Amy Sander, Philippa Webb and Kate Parlett; Support Counsel Catherine Drummond and Jamie Trinidad and Hydrographer/Geographer Robin Cleverly.

Hon. Eamon H. Courtenay SC and Leslie Mendez represent the Government in this process. Hon. Patrick Faber, Leader of the Opposition, has named Michael Peyrefitte and Godwin Hulse as representatives of the Opposition who will remain fully engaged and informed of the process.

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What Does Guatemala Claim at ICJ? One Step Closer to Knowing

In May of 2019, Belizeans voted to go to the ICJ for a final settlement of the territorial dispute with Guatemala. And tonight it seems a lot more real after the Guatemalans have filed what is known as their Memorial at the court in the Hague.

That was done today in line with the agreed upon deadlines when Guatemala's ambassador to the Netherlands, Jorge Skinner-Klée, presented the reports form his country's experts on the "territorial, insular and maritime litigation".

That's basically their argument on what they are claiming in terms of continental land, islands and seas, and the legal grounds for such claims.

And, at 500 pages, with 462 Annexes, 8 Maps and 24 Figures - it's not short, but we can't know what's inside yet.

The rules of the ICJ do not allow Belize to disclose Guatemala's pleadings, but a release from Belize's Ministry of Foreign Affairs this evening says, quote, "the Ministry can reveal that Guatemala's Memorial presents no surprises, no new claims that are different from those that have been made at different times in the past, which are well documented." End quote.

That's an important declaration because all along that was some cause for national anxiety: that Guatemala might have an ace up its sleeve, some historical document lost to time that would sink Belize's sovereignty claim. Well, the news tonight is that it apparently does not have that.

But, what are the Guatemalans claiming? Well, that is best contained in a letter from Guatemala's Foreign Minister to Belize's Prime Minister on 18 October 1999 in which Guatemala declared that "the territory between the rivers Sibun and Sarstoon should "revert" to Guatemala," That letter also protested the, quote, "de facto occupation of the islands adjacent to Belize."

So, while that is the best known claim, speaking today in the Guatemalan Press, a Former Ambassador Roberto Palomo who was intimately involved with negotiations in 2008, was only say, quote, "there are things that are going to be rectified". He's likely referring to a mapping error between Garbutt's Falls near Benque Viejo - and the tri-point border marker between Belize Guatemala and Mexico at Aguas Turbias - where the marker that presently stands is believed to have a marginal error to the west - which would means that correcting it could require hemming it in eastwards possibly half a kilometre.

And while the resolution of that matter is left to be seen, what happens next?

Well, Belize has more than 2 years to answer. Belize's Counter-Memorial will be filed on 8 June 2022. A release from the Foreign Ministry says, quote, "The Belize Office of the Agent to the ICJ, in collaboration with the international team of experts, is already at work in preparing Belize's Counter Memorial which will resolutely reject Guatemala's Claim and strongly assert Belize's claim to all its territory, islands and seas in accordance with international law."

Belize's Agent at the ICJ is Dr. Assad Shoman and Co-agent is Ambassador Alexis Rosado.

Minister Eamon Courtenay and Attorney Leslie Mendez also represent the Government in this process. Hon. Patrick Faber, Leader of the Opposition, has named Michael Peyrefitte and Godwin Hulse as representatives of the Opposition.

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