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Is it really worth going over the border now?
This is one story according to Jorge Aldana's experience.


Belizeans be aware of stuff before going to Chetumal -

The stress returning back from Chetumal does not worth visiting. The Guardia Nacional stationed at the Mexican border is no joke. They dig up your stuff and vehicle entering Mexico and upon exiting - Jesus it's a nightmare. If your shopping is over $300 bucks you must have every single receipt even for the chips. Over $500 the Guardia Nacional ask for a pedimento (document for clearance from a agencia de aduana- Mexican customs broker). Imagine the rass you have to go through. That service is $1200 pesos alone and there are about three at the old Subteniente Lopez Border (old Mexican border). They operate between 10am and 4pm. After that they close and you are forced to stay an extra night. After you get your pedimiento document, you need to present it back at the NEW Mexican border upon exit for the Guardia Nacional to evaluate and charge you tax. Please note that if you taking a pickup truck, like in my case, the Guardia Nacional will tell you that you cannot take over $500 worth of stuff in the pan of your truck because your vehicle is not registered for cargo. You need to hire the service of a Mexican transport vehicle to cross over your shopping that they deem/considered cargo.

So the Gobierno de M�xico has turned Chetumal as a hustling ground and nightmare for Belizeans. My one day trip had to turn into a two days turn around. It is a big [#%!] Mexican hustling and rip off.

They say welcome to Belize. What they don't tell you - welcome to getting royally [#%!].

Of note� crossing the Belize side is a smooth sail! Mexican crossing - at the Guardia Nacional check point is the problem!

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Custom's and Immigration dishonored AMLO'S COMMITMENT at the border of SUBTENIENTE LOPEZ?

Will it work to improve the situation?



The Capital City of Chetumal, border dynamics with their actions to the detriment of the economic recovery on the southern zone, especially the Capital City of Chetumal.

The Immigration and Customs authorities in Subteniente L�pez dishonor the commitment of President Andr�s Manuel L�pez Obrador who has repeatedly expressed his special interest in reactivating the region's economy, said the president of the Business Coordinating Council (CCE) of Chetumal, Eloy Stalin Quintal Jimenez.

The business leader pointed out: "we will take the necessary measures so that the Immigration and Customs authorities respect the border trade regulations."

In this sense, the president of the CCE, Eloy Quintal Jim�nez, requested the immediate intervention of the Secretary of Tourism, Miguel Torruco M�rquez, Senator Jos� Luis Pech and the federal deputy of District 2, Anah� Gonz�lez Hern�ndez, because just days after that the Belizean government reopened its border so that its citizens can enter Mexico, immigration and customs procedures on the Mexican side are affecting border dynamics to the detriment of the economic recovery of the southern zone, especially in the capital city.

The business leader expressed that there are two cross-border procedures that emerged in a negative way in these two days of the reopening of the Belizean border:

The issuance of the Regional Visitor Cards -TVR- issued by the Migration Institute, which allows Belizeans without cost and without a passport the possibility of staying in Mexico for up to 7 days, "is not working, which harms border exchange because Belize only allows departure with a passport or valid TVR. At its best, the TVRs came to represent 45% of the crossings, that is, up to 50 TVRs per day, but they were insufficient by themselves."

On the other hand, the Mexican Customs of Subteniente L�pez "incorrectly forces Belizeans when they return to their country to process export petitions when the laws on the matter allow purchases of up to 1,000 dollars with legal items for personal consumption. Items can range from clothing, footwear, hardware, home maintenance, auto parts, computer equipment, appliances, etc. Because of their purchasing power, Belizeans find better options on the Mexican side. It is worth mentioning that this has been made known to the local customs administrator, but they have ignored the suggestions, a situation that has been corroborated even by high-level officials in Belize."

Eloy Quintal Jim�nez remarked that for almost two years, the Government of Belize kept its land border and seaports closed, "which affected the commercial, sports and social relations that the inhabitants of the southern region of Quintana Roo have historically had with that Central American country. , especially Chetumal."

He recalled that "prior to the pandemic, thanks to the effort to improve commercial services on the Mexican side, according to official information from the INM, just over 500,000 border crossings were registered in 2019, a figure that was increasing annually; This allowed Chetumal to generate an income of approximately 350 million pesos in employment-generating companies, both departmental and family SMEs of various kinds, including local hotel and restaurant companies, medical services, automotive workshops, etc.

With the recent opening, "from the first day a very important spirit of recovery was shown with 384 crossings on the first day, which can be equivalent to more than 10 thousand crossings during the month of February, for an economic impact of 7.7 million pesos for the benefit of the local economy.

Finally, the president of the Business Coordinating Council of Chetumal, Eloy Quintal Jim�nez, reiterated the need for the valuable intervention of the Secretary of Tourism, Miguel Torruco M�rquez, Senator Jos� Luis Pech and the federal deputy of District 2, Anah� Gonz�lez Hern�ndez, " to favorably solve the two exposed problems and prevent the economic recovery of the border from being substantially affected."

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