Did “Piggy” Implicate Jasmine In Contract Killing Setup?
Tonight, Canadian Jasmine Hartin remains in custody at the CIB Office in Belize City. She's there for questioning about a hit she allegedly put out on family court magistrate Dale Cayetano and Commissioner of Police Chester Williams. We stress she is only there for questioning - but the man who linked her to a possible contract killing is her former boyfriend Lionel Neal.
After she had him detained for making threats to her, breaking into her home and performing lewd sexual acts in her bedroom without her approval - he was arrested and charged for burglary with intent to rape and threatening words.
But, after he was detained, he gave the police a whole other story that he has been her personal security turned live-in intimate partner for the better part of 7 months. He also claimed that while under the influence Hartin would make wild threats against prominent Belizean officials.
So, who's making stuff up, and who isn't and is anyone actually hiring a criminal gang to carry out a contract killing? Today, I caught up with Lionel "Piggy" Neal and asked him squarely what Jasmine Hartin did or didn't say about taking out a hit on anyone's life:
Cherisse Halsall:
"I've read your police report and the one thing I see as an allegation in the police report is that she'll get high on ****** and she'll shout, quote: " I wish all these ****** (BLEEP) would dead."
"Did you see Jasmine Hartin order a hit on either a magistrate or the commissioner of police? Is that not something you witnessed?"
Lionel "Piggy" Neal, Accused of burglary, rape, and threatening words
"First of all, when she gets drunk and on coke, she would curse up and, "I hate all the, I wish all these **M** (BLEEP) would dead...I want to kill them..." and afterwards she texts them, because I have the texts. about Chester, Noble, Cowo and there are several peoples."
Cherisse Halsall:
"But in terms of her contracting someone to commit murder, that isn't something you witnessed?"
Lionel "Piggy" Neal
"Well, the actual point is that she said she would want to do it but I see her intentions if she would have the money she would do it so she would reach out to several individuals in the street. I know she could do it."
Cherisse Halsall:
"Chester has said that the reason he is questioning Jasmine right now is that there was some talking and that talking is what starts whatever but you are saying that Jasmine was, if anything, shopping for a gunman but not actually committing to ordering a hit?"
Lionel "Piggy" Neal
"Actually, I don't know about ordering a hit, I don't know about ordering a hit but she brings up that she wants to kill him you know and with the magistrate and her husband, I mean her baby's dad even him and his friend."
And while he makes some serious claims about his ex, we stress that Jasmin Hartin in a voice note to me yesterday flatly refuted his allegations:
Jasmine Hartin, Wanted for Questioning
"It's the biggest made up story ever there are no grounds, no proof, nothing and I am not going into that police station without my lawyer present because this is an invented designed attack on me to paint me bad."
Hartin Attorney Says Contract Killing Allegations Border On The Ridiculous
As we now know - she did not, after all, end up going in with her attorney - Dickie Bradley. Instead she was detained in Caye Caulker when she went for her mandatory bail sign in - and then transported to Belize City just after 6:00 pm - where she was placed in cuffs and taken to the Queen street station. She remains there tonight.
But her attorney did turn up to visit her in the cell block today - and after that he spoke to me at the Courthouse about the very serious allegations - and what he says is a situation bordering on the ridiculous:
Dickie Bradley, Attorney-At-Law
"This is a serious matter because threatening to kill persons is not to be taken lightly. When the threat is to kill the Commissioner of police it can be taken lightly. Nobody will try to kill the commissioner of police. The last people that just recklessly fired shots in his direction, he chased them down in the southside of Belize City."
Cherisse Halsall:
"But Sir we understand that it's not the commissioner of police, allegations also say that this was a double hit, the commissioner and a magistrate."
Dickie Bradley, Attorney-At-Law
"Well first of all it's not the magistrate in front of whom she has criminal charges. Her serious charge of manslaughter has already been submitted to the supreme court so it would be the wrong time to put a hit on the magistrate. I don't want to make too light of a situation which is bordering on the ridiculous. The police do have a duty to look into any allegation of a serious nature. The allegation arose because in our view Ms Hartin went to the police station and made a report against the person who had been saying to her that if she don't money up he will do those exact things that he did turn around and did. So, the minute the public gets a little bit of understanding that they are trying to shake her down that it's something we're well I will do this if you don't drop some money that is the allegation against him. Ms Hartin went to the police station and gave a lengthy statement against my advice. She gave the statement because she is on a small island and she knew what she was facing so she did that. After that had happened when the person found out he then went and did exactly what he threatened he would do. That is the allegation; give me a break see. But the commissioner of police can't brush it one side because when other persons come on the allegations they will say, oh because you had brushed across your one you want to brush across my one so he has to at least go through the procedure to see if there is any credibility, any legitimacy to what is happening."
"I've just come from the station, the Queen Street police station where she is and she said she had not been given any water and she had not gotten any food. Those things might look minor but you trust me when your locked u and so a little water goes a long way."
Bradley also told us that, while he's asked the commissioner to look into the matter, there is no indication that quote: "those trying to crush [Hartin]" are in any way behind the actions of Lionel Neal.
Is Piggy Crazy
And while Bradley doesn't believe that, he and his client have called Neal mentally unstable.
Neal refuted that today by asking for a psych analysis and explaining that he isn't extorting her either. He says he's simply asking Hartin to return the money that he gave her.
Cherisse Halsall:
"How do you feel or how do you respond to the fact that Jasmine says that you're both mentally ill and that you have to feel rejected by her?"
Lionel "Piggy" Neal, Accused of burglary, rape, and threatening words
"Well..."
Cherisse Halsall:
"Do you feel rejected?"
Lionel "Piggy" Neal, Accused of burglary, rape, and threatening words
"I feel glad I got out of that life before I become the next victim. I would prefer right now to go and see a doctor checkup and see if I am crazy or something like what Mr. Dickie says."
Cherisse Halsall:
"I have to ask, Jasmine says in her report that you had promised that you would go to jail would come to the police and the wider public to mess her up. Isn't that what you are doing?"
Lionel "Piggy" Neal, Accused of burglary, rape, and threatening words
"No, no, no it started off from the whatever we had the night the argument and stuff because I asked her because I got money from people to do jobs in the state and stuff so I gave her my money and I told her just give me my money and let me go the night. So, she slapped me the night and I didn't want to because I don't hit females unless you really go to that level and the guys who were at the house cranked a gun and like just go man the girl like, so I was like let me get my stuff from out of her room which is you know in the house and my money, my I.D.'s and yeah so after that that is when we talked and I told her just give me the money, yeah and I'm going. So she said you know what something is wrong with you, you crazy, I won't give you any money and she said I'm going to make you go to jail."
"It's like a little small group who attacked me and were saying you're lying and you're acting on this lady because she doesn't want you so we were in a relationship, common sense."
Did “Piggy” Threaten Hartin
And whether they were or they weren't, once the honeymoon was over, Neal seemed adamant about putting Hartin in jail. This recording of a phone call between the two provided to 7news by Hartin contains a heated exchange and a threat:
Voice of: Lionel "Piggy" Neal, Accused of burglary, rape, and threatening words
"I Just leave her at the office and I tell her I am going to Roberta Usher and she bawl and said please...."
Voice of: Jasmine Hartin
"Lionel, you need to get mental help, you're making so many lies against me and you're acting completely insane."
Voice of: Lionel "Piggy" Neal
"No, no, I will send you to jail, if you don't give me my money."
Voice of: Jasmine Hartin
"You're acting like a crazy person."
Piggy Says Jasmin Was His Partner
And while Hartin and Neal now have substantial differences of interpretation about the factual circumstances of their relationship - Neal maintains he could not have broken into her home or committed any lewd act in her bedroom because they were intimate partners. He detailed what he calls the true nature of their relationship:
Lionel "Piggy" Neal, Accused of burglary, rape, and threatening words
"I would say to the longest day I live I need that young lady to get help and I will make sure I do the right thing if so be to the case to witness everything she says because that's a total lie. I have access to the house. I live there. Her room is my room, she and I sleep together I could tell you how the whole room looks, how her bathroom is where her clothes are, where my clothes are in the closet, you know. So, I actually still have a few clothes right now there so how could I ever burglarize. which in the police didn't do any investigation to see where is the house burglarized. Which part of her room broke. I could never go and do that when I'm having sex with you for 7 months."
Like we said, many sides to this story - but tonight charges stand against Neal - and he is out on bail - and Hartin remains detained for questioning and there is no clarity on whether she will be made to face any charges for this allegation.
But, she still does of course face charges for the manslaughter of Superintendent Henry Jemmott - and that is expected to be heard in the Supreme Court in the next criminal session - which is in June of this year.
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