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Bywarren, I understand the concept of the across the board need for investors to support the infrastructure that would be needed.... It would be a monumental task to find them and get it done in time for the ships. It won't be in place in time. Just like you said. It may be my imagination, but I've heard a lot of chit chat from various sources that there are a lot of foreign investors just waiting for their opportunity. Circling like vultures. This cruise line investment could be a catalyst. Would this source be viable?? I'm not familiar with small foreign investment rules and restrictions.
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I do not know much about foreign investors lining up to pour money into Belize, but I am the one who waited 30 years before buying property in Belize. So, take that into consideration when determing how smart I am and how much I know.
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Latitudes, Thank you very much for supporting my earlier post with your web site on the dangers of cruise ships. It's a frightening prospect for Belize to be sure. It is a very real threat. Debbie
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Bywarren, LOL!! I have always highly respected your opinion. Sorry if I overestimated your expertise in foreign investment. YOu have sound judgement and always make a fair assessment of a situation. I admire that.
Mayatravel. Thank you for passing along our condolences. Not that it will matter much, but I feel better that they will know our opinions here on the board. Debbie
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I have friends who have done a cruise to BZ CITY and their impressions of the City will "keep them from ever going back to BZ".....why would anyone want to cruise to BZ CITY???? Will there be many "excursions" for these folks...especially overnight ones? Or to AC? Actually have an Aunt and Uncle who did it and they won't go back either. Even told my parents "why in hell does your daughter want to move to Belize?"
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On my first trip to AC I did two mainland tours, one to Altun Ha and the other cave tubing. On both trips we were greeted by hoards of cruisers. On my last trip to AC, the first thing I asked before signing up for a tour was "Is that a cruise ship day?" I guess I won't need to ask anymore, because the answer will always be yes, and I will probably avoid the day trips altogether.
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bywarren's comments are spot on -- those here who have more than a few month's perspective will remember all the many developments on Ambergris Caye and elsewhere that have been announced (often by government ministers at big ceremonies) over the years -- the casinos, golf courses, airstrips, convention centres, timeshare projects, etc. -- most of which, like MacArthur's old soldiers, just faded away in the salt air.
And I also agree that Belize City is trouble waiting to happen for the cruise ship lines. I don't think they know what they're getting into.
--Lan Sluder
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If the Belizians hate "cruise ships" enough, they will vote their disapproval. I've been Belizin for 18 years...but, I'm still a visitor. The bottom line...cruise ships are a comin and we will hafta "deal with it".
Gone fishing!!
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It doesn't sound like it's a "done deal" based on Belize's history with these types of things (as Lan stated). And if it isn't, then the tourism community needs to actively voice their disapproval of this happening. Most Belizeans I've talked to about the cruiseship tourism that is already occuring did not like it at all. The only ones who did were employed by them. Hopefully, Belizeans will take it upon themselves to protest this "development."
The negative impacts of cruiseship tourism far outweigh the benefits for the host countries, as many people have already stated. If you don't believe it, do some research and read about the negative impacts of cruiseships already documented in other Caribbean locations.
There is no way ecotourism can co-exist with cruise-ship tourism on the scale this project is aimed at having.
Look at who is benefitting from cruiseship tourism already in Belize -- it's 2 large companies who control all of the day trips for the cruiseships (whose owners are already extremely wealthy). That's it! And those day trips only take tourists to the largest restaurants that can support large groups. It's not our favorite mom and pops that are going to benefit. In fact, they are going to suffer because Belize will be ruined for most of us who frequent those places.
Yep, I'll be looking out for the funeral for Belize's ecotourism industry and for Belize as we know it...
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Question? What about the companies who participate with the cruise lines (for example Altun Ha, Cave tubing, etc)... The ones who pay their staff for taking those cruise people around, buying food to serve them lunch; Do they ever receive their money from the cruise lines on time? To make it worse, do they even get paid? Just wondering... Little Big Mickey Blue
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