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#80473 - 02/19/04 03:51 PM Re: Pics are up online  
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Bobber - thanks for the camera info - we were looking at the Reefmaster (my husband's idea, of course!). We have always used the disposables for snorkeling with great results, so was just wondering if it's worth switching the the Reefmaster, as we don't dive. Thanks again!

#80474 - 02/19/04 04:31 PM Re: Pics are up online  
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Actually, you might be able to get away with the less expensive versions if you don't dive. IMHOP, the reefmaster camera probably costs less to manufacture than the enclosure does it's just a point and shoot thing. I would think that the lesser versions probably use the same basic camera with a different lens and enclosure. All you are getting for the extra money on the RC version is a more ruggedized (rubberized) enclosure. If you may want to upgrade in the future, you can add the strobe. Normally for snorkeling you shouldn't need the strobe. Also check out the Bonica cameras. I picked the RC because I wanted something I could take below 100' if I needed to.


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#80475 - 02/19/04 07:13 PM Re: Pics are up online  
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Bobber -

Inquiring minds wanna know - what was your new ( unhappy with results) film and the slower speed you prefer?


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#80476 - 02/19/04 07:35 PM Re: Pics are up online  
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Take a look at the pics. The faster film needed more light, which the flash and ambient couldn't supply unless I was really close. The current pics are pretty faded.


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#80477 - 02/19/04 07:36 PM Re: Pics are up online  
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I should have been using either ASA100 or 200. I got a deal on some 400. Some deal.


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#80478 - 02/19/04 07:42 PM Re: Pics are up online  
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I would imagine that if you don't use it often, that you'd probably be better off renting it. There are photo shops in my area that rent underwater cameras running thousands of dollars for a few hundred a week or less. Of course, you are responsible with a credit card deposit. I think Blue Hole divers rents them. As far as film, I did an interesting experiment in St. Croix last year. I brought about 20 rolls of everything from Fuji Reala and Provia to AGFA Optima and several Kodaks, as well as a few professional slide and print films and all in speeds ranging ISO 50 to 800. This was not a cheap experiment, but I needed to find out first hand. I bracketed a lot of the shots for exposure and shot most of them with and without flash. I was using a $50 underwater point-and-shoot(non-disposable). Of all the shots(about 300) the sharpest, most saturated, and best exposure came from those taken with Kodak Royal Gold 200. Of course, you have to get them processed at a lab that does Kodak Sea Processing, or something similar, so they develop to compensate for and remove the blue cast. My local dive shop did the Kodak Sea Processing for about 15% more per roll than normal processing, which really isn't bad. The photos turn out incredible when the blue cast is removed. I also noticed that the flash shots flattened a lot of the photos and removed a lot of detail and character from them. However, if you're deep, you can't avoid using the flash. I did notice though, that if you back off of the subject and use the flash as fill, you get great results when your fill flash exposes the otherwise shadow areas under Elkhorn coral strands.

Oh, and the 800 speed was Fuji Pro NPZ 800 Print. This is expensive, but very good. The local photo shop advised me that the grain was excellent even though it's 800. I've seen other high speed films underwater and the grain is really bad. I agree from the results of my tests though, and if you don't want to use flash at all, then this is the way to go. However, the Kodak Royal Gold is much cheaper and I think works just as well, especially if you're just snorkeling and have lots of ambient light.


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#80479 - 02/19/04 07:55 PM Re: Pics are up online  
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Seems like a lot of work. I just play at it on vacation, and use the pics to refresh my memory. I don't try and tell a story or anything, just try to capture a little snapshot in time. I will however take your advice on the film next time. Live and learn. Thanks for the input.

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#80480 - 02/19/04 07:58 PM Re: Pics are up online  
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I did use the Sea processing on my pics from Culebra last year and I didn't notice a lot of difference. I have a feeling it may have been the personnel in the booth and not the procedure. The pics themselves didn't have the clarity I would have expected.


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#80481 - 02/19/04 08:37 PM Re: Pics are up online  
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I like the pictures of the Grouper and the eel. It's quite amazing how the flash can bring all that color back into the subject when it strikes it.


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